Then why does this Navy document refer to his "Honorable Discharge Certificate" and dated Feb. 16, 1978? It indicates an Honorable discharge although the DD214 hasn't been produced for viewing..... http://www.johnkerry.com/pdf/jkmilservice/Honorable_Discharge_From_Reserve.pdf
His other two DD214s dated 15-12-66 and 03-01-70 are available here: http://www.johnkerry.com/pdf/jkmilservice/DD214.pdf
Doesn't make sense, does it?
Kerry's obligated service would have been completed on 16 December 1972 so why does his Honorable Discharge carry a 1978 date?
Kerry only provides documentation for a 16 FEB 1978 Honorable Discharge.
Why the six year delay?
Most likely, Kerry had a General or Undesirable Discharge that was upgraded to Honorable Discharge in 1978.
Kerry could clear all this up by signing his Form 180.
Instead, Kerry refuses to let America know the truth about his service record.
This is all above my pay grade ...lol.
Please splain it to me deport.
34 - "Then why does this Navy document refer to his "Honorable Discharge Certificate" and dated Feb. 16, 1978? It indicates an Honorable discharge although the DD214 hasn't been produced for viewing..... http://www.johnkerry.com/pdf/jkmilservice/Honorable_Discharge_From_Reserve.pdf
His other two DD214s dated 15-12-66 and 03-01-70 are available here: http://www.johnkerry.com/pdf/jkmilservice/DD214.pdf"
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Guys - Please Note, Officer's DD-214's are not discharges, but Releases from Active Duty. Discharge normally comes separately at some later date. Deport, your first link, is a letter, saying there is a discharge certificate attached - (note the - Enclosure in the header of the letter), which is the actual discharge, not the letter of notification, which you have linked.
Polybius - when I was in the Reserves and Active too, back in the 60's-70's, I was always told (though I never looked it up) that my conduct in civilian life, while in the reserves (not on active duty) could get me court martialed, and I had to live up to the UCMJ, even though not on active duty, if I brought discredit to the military.
I also remember that General discharges and Other than Honorable (which I recommended for several), could be upgraded to honorable after a suitable period of good performance in civilian life.
http://beldar.blogs.com/beldarblog/2004/10/was_kerrys_orig.html
Good, lengthly, thorough discussion, "Was Kerry's original discharge less than honorable?", including this quote:
"Commenter Roland at CQ provides an interesting link to a current regulation, 32 C.F.R. § 70.9(b)(4)(ii), which provides that
A General Discharge for an inactive reservist can only be based upon civilian misconduct found to have had an adverse impact on the overall effectiveness of the military, including military morale and efficiency."