DRUDGE REPORT: Pat Buchanan to Endorse Bush Tomorrow

Drudge Report Radio | October 17, 2004 | Matt Drudge

[West Coast Conservative]

Matt Drudge said he heard from the "grapevine" that Pat Buchanan will endorse Bush tomorrow.

[DoughtyOne]

I'm sure Quisi N'Fume, Jessie Jackson, Al Sharpton, the Black Caucus and the NAACP have nothing to do with 90% of blacks voting for democrat candidates.

I'm sure LA Raza, MALDEF, MechLA, LULAC and more racist hispanic leaders than you can shake a stick at, have nothing to do with over 70% of hispanics voting for democrat candidates.

Before you rush out condemning Buchanan for racism, listen to some of the comments coming out of the mouths of hispanic and black leaders. Buchanan doesn't hold a candle to them, when it comes to racism.

These are some of those comments...

Proposition 187 was the last dying gasp of white Californians.

The question isn't when illegal immigrants are going to be sent back to Mexico, the question is when are the whites going to be forced out of California.

Let me know when you hear Buchanan saying such things about Jews.

[Fatalis]

Buchanon is the David Duke of modern politics. His "endorsement" motivates Blacks to turn out in high numbers *against* whomever Buchanon endorses. Ditto for Jews and Hispanics.

The David Duke comparison is a bit extreme, but Pat is his own form of radioactive. His pavlovian antipathy to Israel is beyond mere policy disagreement. Buchanan has so marginalized himself that even on the off occasion he makes any sense anymore, the point is irrelevant because his record discredits it.

[Joe Hadenuf]

I had to deal with an illegal the other day, he was asked in Spanish how many kids he had, he actually couldn't remember if it was five or six. He settled on five.

[DoughtyOne]

So you've never heard the term anchor baby? Why does that not surprise me.

[Fatalis]

Is that the extent of your understanding of fertility rates? LOL!

[bayourod]

"I'd like you to prove the negative you asserted. Can you? "

Can you explain the principle of the null void?

[Southack]

"Before you rush out condemning Buchanan for racism, listen to some of the comments coming out of the mouths of hispanic and black leaders. Buchanan doesn't hold a candle to them, when it comes to racism."

You miss the point.

Buchanon is a lightening rod for criticism. The Left hates him. Jews hate him. Blacks hate him. hispanics hate him.

Thus, Buchanon motivates the Left to turn out to vote in large numbers against Buchanon (or against his endorsements).

And Buchanon knows this fact. Buchanon hates Bush. It was Papa Bush who told Nixon, Buchanon's idol, that he had to resign. It was Buchanon who ran against Dubya in 2000. It was Buchanon who wrote the anti-Bush book "Where The Right Went Wrong: How neo-cons Subverted the Reagan Revolution and Stole the Bush Presidency" this Summer. It was Buchanon who has been bashing Bush non-stop, too.

...Now Buchanon is doing what he can to motivate our opponents to turn out to vote against us.

In case you missed it, Blacks haven't been motivated to support Senator Kerry. His opposition to faith based charities (until last month), his vote *for* Partial Birth Abortion, his opposition to school choice vouchers and privatizing Social Security (Black men average living only to age 64, unprivatized SS only starts paying out at age 65) have hardly been big motivators to get out the Black vote this year.

...So Buchanon is giving JFK a little help in motivating Black and Jewish and Hispanic voters to go vote.

It's the David Duke strategy of dirty politics. Whomever is endorsed by KKK Duke loses.

[Fatalis]

Quit ducking. You asserted a negative. Admit that you can't prove it.

[DoughtyOne]

"Before you rush out condemning Buchanan for racism, listen to some of the comments coming out of the mouths of hispanic and black leaders. Buchanan doesn't hold a candle to them, when it comes to racism."

You miss the point.

Well perhaps, but you know what, I think it is you who have missed the point.

Buchanon is a lightening rod for criticism. The Left hates him. Jews hate him. Blacks hate him. hispanics hate him.

Do you really think the left hates Pat.  Frankly that is the clearest proof to me that your premise is incoherent.  If as you say that his endorsement costs conservatives, then the left would love Pat.  Even you don't buy your own premise entirely.

As for Jews, blacks and hispanics, I find it amusing that you think they are hinging their votes on Pat's recommendations.  Most blacks, most hispanics and most Jews had their votes locked up long before now.  That just shoots your theory all to hell.

Thus, Buchanon motivates the Left to turn out to vote in large numbers against Buchanon (or against his endorsements).

I love how you guys trash Pat for only getting 0.25% of the vote in 2000.  You guys call him belittle him constantly for having little or no impact on the election.  Now you try to claim that he could cost Bush votes.  Which is it?  Is Pat a large motivating force or isn't he?

And Buchanon knows this fact. Buchanon hates Bush. It was Papa Bush who told Nixon, Buchanon's idol, that he had to resign. It was Buchanon who ran against Dubya in 2000. It was Buchanon who wrote the anti-Bush book "Where The Right Went Wrong: How neo-cons Subverted the Reagan Revolution and Stole the Bush Presidency" this Summer. It was Buchanon who has been bashing Bush non-stop, too.

Barry Goldwater told Nixon he'd have to step down.  It wasn't papa Bush.  As for the Bush Presidency, I'm not going to get drawn into that debate now.  If you'd like to discuss it after the election I'd be more than happy to discuss it with you.

...Now Buchanon is doing what he can to motivate our opponents to turn out to vote against us.

Buchanan is doing no such thing.  If he endorsed someone else you'd be pissed.  If endorses Bush you're pissed anyway.  Big deal.

In case you missed it, Blacks haven't been motivated to support Senator Kerry. His opposition to faith based charities (until last month), his vote *for* Partial Birth Abortion, his opposition to school choice vouchers and privatizing Social Security (Black men average living only to age 64, unprivatized SS only starts paying out at age 65) have hardly been big motivators to get out the Black vote this year.

LOL, this is esentially the Gore platform.  Did blacks vote for him?  Ahhh yes!

...So Buchanon is giving JFK a little help in motivating Black and Jewish and Hispanic voters to go vote.

Say it twenty more times.  No, make it 17.  Seventeen more times would make it true.  If Buchanan endorsed Kerry you'd be upset.  If he endorsed Bush you'd be upset.  Mention the name Buchanan and you're upset.  That's the real problem for you.
It's the David Duke strategy of dirty politics. Whomever is endorsed by KKK Duke loses.

I used to think Barbara Boxer was one of the dimest humans I was aware of.  Congratulations, she doesn't hold a candle to you.

When you trot out the David Duke tactics, you're just making yourself look foolish.

When Israel strikes back at the Palestinians, Pat defends their right to defend themselves.  That's far better than Collin Powell.  So much for your vacant charges of racism.

[Southack]

"Barry Goldwater told Nixon he'd have to step down. It wasn't papa Bush."

Do you ever get *any* of your claims right?!

"George Bush, in attendance as the chairman of the Republican National Committee, could not bear to hear a mundane discussion of inflation problems continue, as if it were a normal meeting. Raising his hand, he stated bluntly, "Mr. President, you have to resign."²¹ It hit like a ton of bricks." -http://www.whitehousehistory.org/04/subs/04_a03_a03.html

[Southack]

"Do you really think the left hates Pat. Frankly that is the clearest proof to me that your premise is incoherent. If as you say that his endorsement costs conservatives, then the left would love Pat. Even you don't buy your own premise entirely."

That's such Million Mom illogic. The Left hates Buchanon in the same way that the Right hates Marrion Barry, but in both cases the left (for Buchanon) and the right (for Barry) would be THRILLED at such losers giving an endorsement to their national opponent.

Where your illogic breaks down is that you haven't grasped the difference between being THRILLED at an opponent making a political mistake from that of disliking the person making said mistake.

Two different things, yet confused as one item in your feeble mind.

[DoughtyOne]

How old are you? Barry Goldwater was the elder statesman at that time. He had run for president changing and redefining what it was to be a conservative. It was Goldwater who's support was crucial to Nixon. With Goldwater's support Nixon could stave off the challenge. When he withdrew support, that was the end for Nixon.

George Bush may have made some comments, but his comments meant nothing. George could go pound sand for all Nixon cared. It was Goldwater who mattered.

Any other comments?

[Southack]

"I love how you guys trash Pat for only getting 0.25% of the vote in 2000. You guys call him belittle him constantly for having little or no impact on the election. Now you try to claim that he could cost Bush votes. Which is it? Is Pat a large motivating force or isn't he?"

Oh good grief. Must I explain that Buchanon running as a 3rd Party candidate in 2000, getting 0.25% of the popular vote is *DIFFERENT* than Buchanon in 2004 *endorsing* GWB in such a way that Blacks, Jews, and Hispanics suddenly pay attention to a race and a political ticket (e.g. Kerry/Edwards) that they had largely ignored up to this point?!

[Southack]

"George Bush may have made some comments, but his comments meant nothing. George could go pound sand for all Nixon cared. It was Goldwater who mattered. Any other comments?"

Yes. It was *you* who claimed that Goldwater told Nixon to resign.

You were, and always are, wrong. It was Bush who told Nixon that he had to resign. No one else had the courage to tell him to go.

No one.

Now you want to hide from your error. You are doing a little dance. Suddenly, it's not what you said that matters, but that Goldwater was the player, not Bush.

Whatever. You can dance but you can't hide.

[Southack]

"I used to think Barbara Boxer was one of the dimest humans I was aware of. Congratulations, she doesn't hold a candle to you."

Oh yeah, as if I'm dumb for explaining to you that Mr. KKK David Duke's endorsement is a *bad* thing to get.

You're a regular brain surgeon, you are...

< /mocking! >

[Southack]

"When Israel strikes back at the Palestinians, Pat defends their right to defend themselves. That's far better than Collin Powell. So much for your vacant charges of racism."

You simply *must* take a course or two in READING COMPREHENSION. I didn't claim "Racism."

I said "lightening rod."

David Duke and Pat Buchanon are Lightening Rods for criticism. If you are associated with them, then *you* will suffer from criticism that is usually directed their way.

[DoughtyOne]

You guys claim that Buchanan is of no consequence.  You guys say Pat who?  You state that he has no influence.  Then you claim that Jews, blacks and hispanics are hinging their votes on Buchanan's endorsement.  Then you tell me that I'm using million mom logic.  Okay, I guess I can bear up under that charge.  You ignored my comment that blacks voted over 90% for democrats in 2000.  Pat didn't endorse anyone that year.

I also stated that like you and I, Jews, blacks and hispanics have already made up their minds who they will vote for.  Thus Buchanan will have zero effect on who they will vote for.

Where your logic breaks down is within the first five characters of your return posts.

[DoughtyOne]

From the Washington Post Obituary for Senator Barry M. Goldwater.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/daily/may98/goldwater30.htm

His friends said he was often misunderstood, but his reputation for personal integrity was unblemished. At the height of the Watergate crisis, when the Republicans in Congress needed someone to tell President Richard M. Nixon he should resign, they chose Mr. Goldwater. But instead of telling the president what to do, Mr. Goldwater simply informed him in the Oval Office on Aug. 7, 1974, that the Republicans in Congress were unwilling and unable to stop his impeachment and conviction should he remain in office. Nixon announced his resignation the next day.

[Southack]

"I also stated that like you and I, Jews, blacks and hispanics have already made up their minds who they will vote for. Thus Buchanan will have zero effect on who they will vote for."

Again, you are missing the point.

I'm *NOT* talking about *who* those groups are generally voting for.

I'm talking about something very different:

...I'm talking about *HOW MANY* people in those groups will be motivated to actually go to the polling booth and vote.

Senator Kerry and Senator Edwards are lily White East-Coast elite liberal trial lawyers who hold positions that Blacks in particular despise, such as being in favor of Partial Birth Abortions, being against (until last month) faith-based charities, against school choice vouchers, for gay civil unions, and against privatizing Social Security.

So Blacks in particular haven't been motivated to go get out the Black vote for the Kerry Campaign.

To help motivate Blacks, Kerry and Edwards *both* tried to show that Cheney was pro-gay by mentioning his lesbian daughter in the debates, for instance.

To futher motivate Blacks to go vote, Buchanon is about to give the press free reign in tossing out a new race card.

Thus, Buchanon's endorsement will *motivate* voters who we already know how they will vote (if they bother).

Now, there will be a test. You have to prove that you are capable of comprehending the difference between *motivating* someone to show up at the polling booth from that of influencing *which* candidate they prefer.

This will be a multiple choice test. You may use your notes.

[Southack]

"But instead of telling the president what to do, Mr. Goldwater simply informed him in the Oval Office on Aug. 7, 1974, that the Republicans in Congress were unwilling and unable to stop his impeachment and conviction should he remain in office."

Yup. Goldwater didn't tell Nixon to resign. Bush had to do it, just as I educated you on that point earlier with the White House historical source.

That you still haven't admitted that you were wrong on such a black and white point shows volumes about your integrity, too...