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eastcarolinian ^
| October 14, 2004
| Peter Kalajian
Posted on 10/19/2004 5:14:54 PM PDT by stainlessbanner
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To: bushpilot
Did not know the Natchez Trace was capable of train traffic.Sarah Debro was a slave in North Carolina. There were rail connections to Vicksburg.
To: lentulusgracchus
"Sirhan Sirhan shot Robert F. Kennedy" is not an interpretation. No, because in that case, unlike the claims you made, the judicial process found him guilty. When the Supreme Court has ruled on your claims, let me know. If they say you're right then I'll agree with your interpretation.
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posted on
10/22/2004 11:50:19 AM PDT
by
Non-Sequitur
(Jefferson Davis - the first 'selected, not elected' president.)
To: lentulusgracchus
Remember to quote your own fatuity when you're standing in the embers of your house. Why would I want to be standing in the embers of my house?
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posted on
10/22/2004 11:51:24 AM PDT
by
Non-Sequitur
(Jefferson Davis - the first 'selected, not elected' president.)
To: lentulusgracchus
Erratum:
"then 2+2=4 is not an opinion"
To: Non-Sequitur
Why would I want to be standing in the embers of my house? Because someone who didn't like you declared you to be in "rebellion" and burned it down around you.
To: bushpilot
me thinks Heyworth's post burning a slave is bogus. http://memory.loc.gov/cgi-bin/ampage?collId=mesn&fileName=111/mesn111.db&recNum=364&itemLink=S?ammem/mesnbib:@field(AUTHOR+@od1(Hall,+Thomas))
To: Non-Sequitur
If they say you're right then I'll agree with your interpretation. Your ad verecundiam groveling is incredibly non-American and bovine. If I can wangle an appointment to the Supremes, will you kiss whatever I tell you to?
To: Non-Sequitur
No, because in that case, unlike the claims you made, the judicial process found him guilty. LOL! -- You just insisted that every historian in the world prove his theses in court! World history has to come to a grinding halt while Non-Sequitur demands injunctive relief from the processes of human reason!
Simultaneously, you just told us that the truth is whatever the Supreme Court says it is.
"Plessey vs. Ferguson". "Dred Scott". Write those 500 times each on a blackboard.
To: lentulusgracchus
If I can wangle an appointment to the Supremes, will you kiss whatever I tell you to? If someone like you can get onto the Supreme Court then hell yes.
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posted on
10/22/2004 12:06:04 PM PDT
by
Non-Sequitur
(Jefferson Davis - the first 'selected, not elected' president.)
To: lentulusgracchus
You just insisted that every historian in the world prove his theses in court! No, just ones like you who demand that the world agree with them because...well, because they say so.
Simultaneously, you just told us that the truth is whatever the Supreme Court says it is.
No, but the Supreme Court is tasked with ruling on what is Constitutional and what is not. Not you.
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posted on
10/22/2004 12:08:15 PM PDT
by
Non-Sequitur
(Jefferson Davis - the first 'selected, not elected' president.)
To: lentulusgracchus
Because someone who didn't like you declared you to be in "rebellion" and burned it down around you. If I was in rebellion then I'd have little to complain about, wouldn't I?
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posted on
10/22/2004 12:09:29 PM PDT
by
Non-Sequitur
(Jefferson Davis - the first 'selected, not elected' president.)
To: Do Be
I certainly do give a dam about what you think after your remarks.
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To: bushpilot
veritas nunquam perit Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum viditur.
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posted on
10/22/2004 2:09:53 PM PDT
by
Non-Sequitur
(Jefferson Davis - the first 'selected, not elected' president.)
To: x; lentulusgracchus; stainlessbanner; bushpilot; bourbon; stand watie; onyx; Travis McGee; ...
That was much better.
I have never said the South was right. It's much more complex than that and I would argue that in hindsight we are better whole....and I do not relish the Union dead either...but this Union may be tested again....in fact I believe it will but much more fragmented.
I simply enjoy protecting my respect for my ancestors who fought for their states and region...and fought well in my view with some of the best military leaders this nation has ever produced.
Now ..say by the early 80s, some PC and race hustling groups have come along and tried to vilify something that was once honoured or at worst ignored is not my fault and I feel no compunction to submit.
Two evenings ago I had the good fortune to jog the VMI parade ground and the grounds of W&L next door as well as stop by the cemetery where Stonewall is buried.
As I jogged past the W&L chapel in the misty autumn evening and thought of all the heritage within musket range of where I was and the great man buried in the crypt below the chapel along with his family.
I felt nothing but pride and gratitude that I had the good fortune to be born in America....and more particularly the Deep South.
Regards.
PS: as a side note I just discovered in conference with my 4 year old's teacher that her brother was Col. Kim Orlando who was killed near Karbala last year....I had not known that. It was an emotional revelation. I wanted to weep for her. First time I've met someone who has lost someone there up close. BTW...she is fervently PRO_BUSH and thinks Kerry is a traitor....this is a K4 teacher to give perspective.
To: x
Where do you want to start?
Besides ending slavery what were other spoils of a northern victory?
Land and resources that northern businessmen had longed to get their hands on before the war. Sort of like going to war for oil! Do you think that even back then the northern states would have supported a war simply to gain resources? But alas the slavery issue was good enough to get them fired up. I could go on and on about the different economic reasons for the war but it took me a few years to digest it all.
But let's jump ahead to another BIG issue for going to war, STATES RIGHTS! The right for states to make their own decisions. Guess what X, slavery was on the way out by the time the war started. But the south DID NOT WANT to be told what to do and when to do it. Sort of like the conflict going on today with states wanting to decide for themselves on same-sex marriage.
I guess on that issue liberals can be compared to the Civil War Rebels in telling the Gov't to butt out of their business!
Comment #337 Removed by Moderator
To: Heyworth
when you get both a life AND a BRAIN, perhaps i'll care what you think.
complaining about such silliness as whether the spell-checker on FR works OR whether you like my grammar/punctuation/etc. is a sign that you have a vacuum between your ears. that is typical of IGNORANT HATERS, who have NOTHING of importance to say!
why not head over to DU with the other fools/cretins/damnyankee southHATERS. they will really LIKE YOU!
free dixie,sw
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posted on
10/22/2004 2:26:32 PM PDT
by
stand watie
( being a damnyankee is no better than being a racist. it is a LEARNED prejudice against dixie.)
To: bushpilot
methinks "heyworth the hateFILLED" isn't smart enough to know he's been duped.
must be his "pubic screwl edumakashun".
free dixie,sw
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posted on
10/22/2004 2:28:09 PM PDT
by
stand watie
( being a damnyankee is no better than being a racist. it is a LEARNED prejudice against dixie.)
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