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US ; American gays vow to eject Bush
kerala news ^ | 10/19/04

Posted on 10/19/2004 7:11:08 PM PDT by knak

US News, Los Angeles - American gays, branded sinners by the Christian right, are waging an all-out battle to eject President George Bush from power in the November 2 poll.

Furious over Bush's support of a federal constitutional amendment that would have banned homosexual marriage, they are determined to prevent Bush from winning another four years in the White House.

And on the same day they pick a new president, residents of 11 American states will vote on state ballot initiatives aimed at banning gay matrimony. 'A lot of homosexuals who usually don't vote are going to vote this time'

Bush wants a constitutional amendment that would effectively ban same sex marriages.

The row over whether marriage should be defined as the exclusive union of a man and a woman came after Massachusetts state legalised gay marriage last November and the city of San Francisco in February defiantly began marrying homosexual couples to protest a state ban on the practice.

The gay wedding fever and the subsequent attempts to crack down on the wave widened an already uneasy gulf between the Bush administration and the country's estimated 28 million homosexuals.

"The whole gay community is against Bush and a lot of homosexuals who usually don't vote are going to vote this time," said Stan Stansbury, 55, a gay activist who lives in the liberal city of Berkeley, near San Francisco.

"I am more active than I have ever been in opposing Bush because this president is so right wing," said the liberal who distributes pamphlets and does internet lobbying to urge voters to defeat Bush on November 2.

"Bush is clearly courting the right wing Christian fundamentalists and they are the ones who damage gay rights and gay safety in this country," he fumed.

Gay community leaders said the community felt insulted by the stance of the Republican administration and party, which at its national convention in September adopted a conservative platform strongly rejecting calls for gay marriage and abortion rights.

Even Republican gays feel they have been marginalised by the administration's swing to the right.

"They've decided to use gay families as wedge issues across America in swing states and that is truly outrageous," said Patrick Guerriero, executive director of the Log Cabin Republicans, the party's leading gay bloc that has withdrawn its endorsement of Bush over the federal marriage amendment issue.

"Our members have been insulted by a campaign that has attempted to amend the constitution," he said.

The organisation last week filed a lawsuit challenging the US military over the controversial 1993 "Don't Ask, don't tell" law that allows homosexuals to serve as soldiers provided they do not disclose their sexuality.

Bush's Democratic election rival, John Kerry, also opposes the constitutional amendment, but like Bush, he maintains marriage should be confined to a man and a woman.

But even though Kerry does not back gay marriage, Jim Key of the Los Angeles Gay and Lesbian Center believes homosexuals and their friends and families will turn on Bush and his policies when they cast ballots.

"Bush is going to get less support than ever after certain policies such as federal marriage amendment - that could hurt him really bad among the community," he said, stressing that his organisation is non-partisan.

"Kerry, on the contrary, has been one of the strongest supporters of gays in Congress," he said.

But 56-year-old San Francisco-area resident Beau Cain said he would not support either of mainstream candidate as neither defends gay rights. Instead, he will vote for Libertarian party candidate Michael Badnarik.

"When my friends tell me my vote is wasted, I say: 'I would rather vote for what I want and not get it rather than vote for what I don't want and get plenty of it," said the technical writing professor from California State University at San Jose.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: badnarik; culturewars; gayvote; homosexualagenda; kerry; libertarian; marriageamendment
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1 posted on 10/19/2004 7:11:08 PM PDT by knak
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To: knak
American gays, branded sinners by the Christian right

My how the press is ignorant of Christianity.

Anyone besides me see the obvious problem with this statement in regards to Christianity???
2 posted on 10/19/2004 7:12:23 PM PDT by swilhelm73 (Democrats and free speech are like oil and water)
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To: knak
American gays vow to eject Bush

*snicker* Good luck, pole-smokers!

3 posted on 10/19/2004 7:12:33 PM PDT by Prime Choice (The Leftists think they can tax us into "prosperity" and regulate us into "liberty.")
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To: knak
US ; American gays vow to eject Bush

I'm really scared...Ooohhhh.

4 posted on 10/19/2004 7:13:35 PM PDT by frog_jerk_2004
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To: knak

Sorry, can't get past the bad headline.


5 posted on 10/19/2004 7:14:15 PM PDT by mtbopfuyn
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To: swilhelm73

God said they were sinners. Then again, God said we are all sinners. It must have been the go and sin no more part they didn't like.

Why are we being held hostage by less than 1 percent of the population?


6 posted on 10/19/2004 7:14:19 PM PDT by Jaded ((Clothes make the man. Naked people have little or no influence on society. - Mark Twain))
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To: Prime Choice

Well, they interview gays in SF... California anyway will go Kerry... OTH, in Ohio, the defense of marriage amendment may draw out a lot of evangelicals who will vote Bush...


7 posted on 10/19/2004 7:14:22 PM PDT by Pitiricus
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To: knak

"The whole gay community is against Bush and a lot of homosexuals who usually don't vote are going to vote this time," said Stan Stansbury, 55, a gay activist who lives in the liberal city of Berkeley, near San Francisco."

This is a completely stupid answer. Mary Cheney is gay and she's voting for Bush. This guy is ignorant.


8 posted on 10/19/2004 7:14:33 PM PDT by writer33 (Try this link: http://www.whiskeycreekpress.com/books/electivedecisions.shtml)
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To: knak

Eject Bush? Ah yes. Just tighten up your stomach muscles and push, right boys? But while you THINK you are in your usual position, you are not, and the usual procedures won't work.


9 posted on 10/19/2004 7:14:38 PM PDT by wizardoz ("Crikey! I've lost my mojo!")
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To: knak

"A lot of homosexuals who usually don't vote are going to vote this time"

Yeah, like that'll be a really big number. Nonetheless, a lot MORE will show up to counter any pro-gay vote. HA HA.


10 posted on 10/19/2004 7:14:40 PM PDT by macamadamia
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To: knak

Gay males reject bush...


11 posted on 10/19/2004 7:14:45 PM PDT by LRS
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To: knak
But 56-year-old San Francisco-area resident Beau Cain said he would not support either of mainstream candidate as neither defends gay rights. Instead, he will vote for Libertarian party candidate Michael Badnarik.

Good for him.

12 posted on 10/19/2004 7:16:07 PM PDT by Dolphy (It's not a plan, it's an echo)
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To: mtbopfuyn

Me too.


13 posted on 10/19/2004 7:17:05 PM PDT by Perdogg (Dubya - Right Man, Right Job, at the Right Time!)
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To: knak

Any chance they'll leave when the election doesn't go their way?


14 posted on 10/19/2004 7:18:51 PM PDT by CzarNicky (The problem with bad ideas is that they seemed like good ideas at the time.)
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To: Jaded
Then again, God said we are all sinners.

We have a winner! ;)
15 posted on 10/19/2004 7:19:43 PM PDT by swilhelm73 (Democrats and free speech are like oil and water)
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To: knak
American gays, branded sinners by the Christian right...

Wrong! Branded sinners by The Bible, just as are all the rest of us.

16 posted on 10/19/2004 7:19:45 PM PDT by Stonedog (Mr. Blather... tear down this STONEWALL!!)
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To: frog_jerk_2004

Well... better than vowing to "inject" Bush.


17 posted on 10/19/2004 7:20:16 PM PDT by dr_who_2
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To: LRS

That does sound much better.


18 posted on 10/19/2004 7:20:17 PM PDT by knak
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To: Pitiricus

That's the point. The deviant vote is concentrated in ultra cultural left areas that the GOP would never carry in any case.


19 posted on 10/19/2004 7:20:29 PM PDT by Sam the Sham
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To: Dolphy

Doesn't it just warm the cockles of your heart to see that Kerry still loses votes no matter how much he waffles?


20 posted on 10/19/2004 7:21:20 PM PDT by swilhelm73 (Democrats and free speech are like oil and water)
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To: knak

Well, let us see now -

The states that have passed the marriage issue so far - have been high in number and are against the change they want -

I don't see a reason to worry even if everyone of them did as that guy suggest -

Perhaps they are upset that - as a small group - they aren't getting their way as easy as they were "led" to believe - and maybe won't even get it if, for some reason, the whole nation goes crazy and Kerry is elected - Kleenex needed


21 posted on 10/19/2004 7:21:45 PM PDT by Pastnowfuturealpha
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To: knak
...the country's estimated 28 million homosexuals.

I don't think so.

22 posted on 10/19/2004 7:23:56 PM PDT by Peelod (Perversion is not festive)
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To: knak

Why don't these angry "gay" people MOVE to ANOTHER COUNTRY?


23 posted on 10/19/2004 7:24:52 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: knak
Sodomites reject God's design for marriage. Their whole thought processes are warped. They shake their puny fist at God and say we are going to do things our own way.
24 posted on 10/19/2004 7:25:04 PM PDT by Rodm (Seest thou a man diligent in his business? He shall stand before kings)
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To: knak

"The gay wedding fever and the subsequent attempts to crack down on the wave widened an already uneasy gulf between the Bush administration and the country's estimated 28 million homosexuals. "

Oh, PLEASE - Give me a break.

Only about 1% of our population is "gay" and very angry.


25 posted on 10/19/2004 7:25:57 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: knak

"Bush's Democratic election rival, John Kerry, also opposes the constitutional amendment, but like Bush, he maintains marriage should be confined to a man and a woman. "

That's B.S.. Just hte other day he admitted that his "mind could be changed about "gay" marriage. The truth is Kerry WOULD support it.



"Kerry, on the contrary, has been one of the strongest supporters of gays in Congress," he said.

Yup! He will be as President too. It's just another issue he is lying about and trying to cover up how liberal he really is.


27 posted on 10/19/2004 7:28:29 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: little jeremiah; scripter

WOW! American gays endorsing Kerry and Badnarik over Bush.


28 posted on 10/19/2004 7:29:55 PM PDT by Susannah (What's less united than the USA during war? > the UN !)
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To: knak
The only thing oppressing and endangering homosexuals is homosexual behaviors.
29 posted on 10/19/2004 7:33:15 PM PDT by Cultural Jihad
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"...widened an already uneasy gulf between the Bush administration and the country's estimated 28 million homosexuals."

Me thinks this author has been smokin the crack.
30 posted on 10/19/2004 7:33:59 PM PDT by Texas_Jarhead
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To: knak

Is the gay vote that significant in the United States? I doubt it seriously. The number of "angry" gay voters are going to be drowned out by a huge turnout of determined Christian conservatives, especially in those states like Ohio and Michigan that have gay marriage amendments on their ballots. Even the Democrats aren't openly courting the gay vote because they know they're toast if they do.


31 posted on 10/19/2004 7:34:25 PM PDT by midftfan
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To: Peelod

That's what I said. 10%? Hardly.


32 posted on 10/19/2004 7:38:30 PM PDT by thompsonsjkc
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To: nmh

Hey this is a core value of Kerry's. You know this. what this is a core value. Kerry's core values. this and these. All depends on the meaning of this. "I really married up"


33 posted on 10/19/2004 7:39:19 PM PDT by ricktex401
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To: knak

Get out and vote Republican! (just be aware of who's standing behind you in line;)))


34 posted on 10/19/2004 7:41:09 PM PDT by Frank_2001
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To: Cultural Jihad
"The only thing oppressing and endangering homosexuals is homosexual behaviors" Yep. Just one example:Think gay Catholic priests and the huge # of children they have abused.
35 posted on 10/19/2004 7:41:11 PM PDT by KwasiOwusu
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To: knak
American gays, branded sinners by the Christian right

Anything to make Conservative Christians sound bad.

36 posted on 10/19/2004 7:41:24 PM PDT by Blue Scourge (Off I go into the Wild Blue Yonder...)
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To: frog_jerk_2004
US ; American gays vow to eject Bush.

Gays rejected bush long before this election. That is their problem.

37 posted on 10/19/2004 7:41:58 PM PDT by The_Media_never_lie
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To: swilhelm73
Doesn't it just warm the cockles of your heart to see that Kerry still loses votes no matter how much he waffles

It sure does.

38 posted on 10/19/2004 7:42:13 PM PDT by Dolphy (It's not a plan, it's an echo)
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To: Susannah; EdReform; backhoe; Yehuda; Clint N. Suhks; saradippity; stage left; Yakboy; ...

(Thanks for the ping. I'll ping the list.)

Homosexual Agenda Ping.

28 million homosexuals????

And 28 million is 2% of how many? I never got that far in math. The population of the US would have to be really huge to have that many avowed homosexuals.

I'm sure Bush will be absolute devastated by the loss of the "gay" vote.

How many homosexuals are there compared to people who don't like the idea of "gay" marriage? All we need to do is check the votes for and against defense of marriage amendments in various states. Heheheh.

Let me and Scripter know if anyone wants on/off this ping list.


39 posted on 10/19/2004 7:45:00 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Help elect a REAL, COURAGEOUS conservative to Congress - www.mikegabbard.com)
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To: knak
The gay wedding fever and the subsequent attempts to crack down on the wave widened an already uneasy gulf between the Bush administration and the country's estimated 28 million homosexuals.

Yeah, and if we let them get married then that means there will be 56 million of them.

40 posted on 10/19/2004 7:47:40 PM PDT by Old Professer (Fear is the fountain of hostility.)
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To: swilhelm73
Doesn't it just warm the cockles of your heart...

I don't want to hear anything about "cockles" on this thread!

41 posted on 10/19/2004 7:49:48 PM PDT by Egon (If Kerry had been right about screwed-up returning vets, he wouldn't have lived to see 1975!)
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To: Peelod

This article (note that the location is Kerala - that's a state in India, of all places??? No big "gay rights" movement there. There is some, but the conservative Hindus are not following along with it submissively.) is full of total crap, such as:

"Gay community leaders said the community felt insulted by the stance of the Republican administration and party..."

Well, I'm insulted by the likes of the Log Cabin "Republicans" who use the words Log Cabin in honor of Abraham Lincoln whom they claim was a closeted homosexual. I'm insulted by their indoctrination of kids in school, their attempts to infiltrate the Boy Scouts, their abuse of boys in the Catholic Church, and etc etc.


42 posted on 10/19/2004 7:50:53 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Help elect a REAL, COURAGEOUS conservative to Congress - www.mikegabbard.com)
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To: little jeremiah

btt


43 posted on 10/19/2004 7:55:27 PM PDT by Ciexyz (Feeling so much calmer now I've cancelled my cable TV. Don't miss the Demopuke spin on cable news.)
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To: swilhelm73
"American gays, branded sinners by the Christian right..."

"My how the press is ignorant of Christianity. Anyone besides me see the obvious problem with this statement in regards to Christianity???"

Yes. Christians know that all are sinners.

44 posted on 10/19/2004 7:56:09 PM PDT by Irene Adler
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To: Egon

Hey, I thought it was very punny, err funny!


45 posted on 10/19/2004 7:56:46 PM PDT by swilhelm73 (Democrats and free speech are like oil and water)
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To: swilhelm73
"American gays, branded sinners by the Christian right..."

"My how the press is ignorant of Christianity. Anyone besides me see the obvious problem with this statement in regards to Christianity???"

Yes. Christians know that all are sinners.

46 posted on 10/19/2004 7:56:52 PM PDT by Irene Adler
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To: ricktex401

Yeah, and teresa WINCES ... so I heard on Rush today.

For a BRIEF moment I felt sorry for her. She's just a walking billion dollars to him and he has the balls to make it a joke.

I'd also bet he's sleeping around. Would YOU want to come home to THAT or even listen to THAT?


47 posted on 10/19/2004 7:57:28 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: swilhelm73
Hey, I thought it was very punny, err funny!

I must say, I clenched a little when I read it...

48 posted on 10/19/2004 7:58:54 PM PDT by Egon (If Kerry had been right about screwed-up returning vets, he wouldn't have lived to see 1975!)
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To: LRS
Gay males reject bush... ... why, butt of course they do!
49 posted on 10/19/2004 8:04:49 PM PDT by SunnySide
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To: wizardoz

"Say, did anyone just see a hamster fly across the room?"


50 posted on 10/19/2004 8:05:07 PM PDT by 45semi (A Kennedy speaking, and the wind from me arse, bear suspicious resemblance...)
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