Posted on 10/20/2004 11:02:48 PM PDT by conservativeinferno
It may be "bloodless" in that the left will try to use only lawyers to execute their coup, but what then is the recourse for all of us who have had their Constitutional rights essentially taken from them? By using the judicial branch, we will have no LEGAL recourse.
Sitting around and complaining about it won't have any effect, obviously.
The plan I read today is for the Rats to have a pool of 10,000 attorneys ready at a moment's notice in any of the battleground states. In many of these states, they plan on beginning litigation PRIOR to the election being complete. They also intend to have what they called 6 SWAT teams of attorneys able to respond within 1 hour anywhere in the US. Now what in the Hell does this have to do with our electoral process? They're counting on pulling a Stalin on us. "It doesn't matter how many votes one side gets, it only matters who counts those votes."
The vast majority of the Left voters are simply idiots who don't even read newspapers. They think they're intelligent, but shun science and math. You know the type.
Your first mistake is under-estimating ignorance and stupidity dont ever do that !
If hey dont read a newspaper they a more than likely better off than most.
un-informed is better than ill-informed id rather talk with someone who dont know the facts than someone who has been fed a string of lies to get to a certain outcome ! newspapers feed those lies and fan the flames of MSM miscontent to no end !
Very well put.
All the Leftists I know, mostly from work, seem totally out of touch with reality. It's as if they're possessed.
Agreed!
You, as well as the Officer-In-Charge of the armory, should have been court martialed.
I can unequivicolly state that you were NOT in a Marine Corps unit. All weapons are tightly controlled and those responsible for their whereabouts are held accountable.
Kerry Ready to Declare Victory, Fight Loss
AP ^ | 10/20
Posted on 10/20/2004 1:42:45 PM PDT by ambrose
Kerry Ready to Declare Victory, Fight Loss
Posted: October 20, 2004 at 1:11 p.m.
WASHINGTON (AP) -- Sen. John Kerry, bracing for a potential fight over election results, will not hesitate to declare victory Nov. 2 and defend it, advisers say. He also will be prepared to name a national security team before knowing whether he's secured the presidency.
In short, the Democratic presidential candidate has a simple strategy for Nov. 3 and beyond: Do not repeat Al Gore's mistakes.
The Democratic vice president prematurely conceded the 2000 race to George W. Bush, then had to retract his concession after aides said Florida wasn't lost. He never declared victory, an omission Kerry's advisers -- many of whom worked for Gore -- now believe created a sense of inevitability in voters' minds about Bush's presidency.
Gore didn't plan for the legal showdown, though few could have predicted it before Election Day. And he watched as Bush seized political advantage during the 36-day recount by publicly discussing a transition to the White House.
Not this time, promise Kerry's advisers. If there is doubt about the results, they will fight without delay.
"The first thing we will do is make sure everybody has an opportunity to vote and every vote is counted," said Kerry spokeswoman Stephanie Cutter. "We will be ready to hit the ground running and begin a fresh start in this country, given that so many critical issues are before us."
The prospects for another contested election loom with every poll showing the race neck and neck.
Six so-called "SWAT teams" of lawyers and political operatives will be situated around the country with fueled-up jets awaiting Kerry's orders to speed to a battleground state. The teams have been told to be ready to fly on the evening of the election to begin mounting legal and political fights. Every battleground state will have a SWAT team within an hour of its borders.
The Kerry campaign has recount office space in every battleground state, with plans so detailed they include the number of staplers and coffee machines needed to mount legal challenges.
"Right now, we have 10,000 lawyers out in the battleground states on Election Day, and that number is growing by the day," said Michael Whouley, a Kerry confidant who is running election operations at the Democratic National Committee.
While the lawyers litigate, political operatives will try to shape public perception. Their goal would be to persuade voters that Kerry has the best claim to the presidency and that Republicans are trying to steal it.
Democrats are already laying the public relations groundwork by pointing to every possible voting irregularity before the Nov. 2 election and accusing Republicans of wrongdoing.
On Election Day, Whouley will head the so-called "boiler room," probably in Washington, that tracks vote counts and ensures Kerry doesn't concede too soon. Whouley was the aide who, after noticing Florida was too close to call in 2000, called Gore's team in Tennessee and told them to put the brakes on the concession speech.
Campaign manager Mary Beth Cahill will be with Kerry in Boston, where they will field Whouley's calls.
Jim Johnson, who headed Kerry's vice presidential search team, former Labor Secretary Alexis Herman and longtime Kerry aide David McKean lead the team planning Kerry's transition to the White House.
Aides say the transition process is behind schedule, but Kerry will be ready to name a national security team shortly after the election. They say he has candidates in mind, but is reluctant to discuss the transition while campaigning.
The advisers spoke on condition of anonymity because Kerry wants the focus to be on his campaign for now.
The plan to quickly name a national security team is partly practical (at a time of war, continuity is necessary) and political, aides said, because if there is another recount Kerry will want to show he's ready to take power.
Amid the tumult of the 2000 recount, Bush sought to make his presidency appear inevitable time by leaking word of his national security team and bringing news cameras into his transition meetings. Gore and his staff were more reluctant to talk about the appointment process.
Kerry's advisers say Bush would have a natural political advantage in a re-count in this election because he is the president, with a national security team in place and a public relations spotlight that comes with the White House.
I realized the potential of that a little too late; after I posted it!
It did happen though.
We had an incident here in Tacoma years ago where the arms room did in fact open up to issue weapons for an firefight in Tacoma. It was between the Bloods and 2/75 Rangers, and lasted about 45 minutes.
After the shooting stopped, the police moved in. When inside the Ranger's perimeter defense at the home of the Sergeant at the center of the battle, the police politely asked the Rangers which weapons came from the arms room. After pointing those weapons out, the police told them to get those weapons back to Ft Lewis. No questions asked.
So it does happen sometimes. I know for a fact that this took place, as I was Bn Staff Duty that night.
You, as well as the Officer-In-Charge of the armory, should have been court martialed
Why ? court martialed for something done legaly ?
You're probably right. At least you're not the only person to have thought that regarding my service.
I guess I wasn't the brightest marine in the Corps.
When were you in?
I heard about times during the beginning of the all volunteer military that you could check out weapons from the arms room to go hunting with, etc. The person who told me this joined the Army in 1974. I can only assume that things in the Corps then were similar.
Control of weapons is paramount to good order and discipline. In garrison, (not in combat theater), weapons are kept in the armory, except for when in use for training. Anyone who uses their weapon in a manner not authorized (shooting cans etc) is subjecting themselves to serious charges and quite possible court martial.
Actually, I kept a personal rifle in the armory at times as well; none of this seemed like a big deal at the time.
I see this as the last desperate attempt of the dying Democrat left. The demographics are shifting against the leftists and they know it. If they can't wrest control from this election, the Democrat left will not regain power for at least another generation (about 20 years). By then, half of the Baby Boomer generation will be dead or close to it. The next generation of Boomer types are either infants or not yet born.
What's different now ??
BUMP
Do you even know what "anarchy" means?
Hint: "AN" is a prefix, it means not, or , without.
"ARCH" means the highest, the Rex, the King, the master of all he surveys.
So now you have enough to understand why they wrote the Declaration.
ping
They had best not try that bunk here in Alabama. When President Bush wins, and if those democrats riot, shoot them all. This will decrease the welfare rolls by 50% and or arrest, try/deport to a communist country. I do believe rioting and anarchy will take place during and after the election. President will win, though kerry will try to us the judiciary system coupled with anarchy to steal this election. The bottom line the Communist must be stopped now and forever. Team Kerry's plan,(If not by the ballot box, then by the cartridge box) Bush/Cheney 2004
How so? Won't population growth be from the Democrats' favorite breeding grounds, i.e., immigration (including illegals), low-income, lower class, etc.? With a steady stream of recruits from these sources, the Dems can use their traditional class war and race cards to whip up the masses against their perceived Republican oppressors. Throw in election fraud, media bias and manipulation (see Rather, Dan), activist SCOTUS, and leftist indoctrination from the educational system, and there you have it -- half of the population perfectly conditioned for blind, unquestioning submission to the demilitarized, anti-capitalist, nanny welfare state that Kerry envisions.
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