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Passive millimeter wave imaging growing fast
The International Society for Optical Engineering ^ | 2000 | Yvonne Carts-Powell

Posted on 10/21/2004 1:57:36 PM PDT by theFIRMbss

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1 posted on 10/21/2004 1:57:36 PM PDT by theFIRMbss
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To: theFIRMbss

I wonder if this type of sensing could negate stealth technology? Needless to say, we're heavily invested in stealth.


2 posted on 10/21/2004 2:03:44 PM PDT by Tallguy (If the Kerry campaign implodes any further, they'll reach the point of "singularity" by election day)
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To: Tallguy

The question is whether it can be jammed...


3 posted on 10/21/2004 2:10:29 PM PDT by fire_eye (Socialism is the opiate of academia.)
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To: Tallguy

It would have no bearing on stealth aircaft - at least not in an operational sense. Stealth is designed to fool radar frequencies.

Visual stealth, OTOH, hasn't been made public yet. But it's definitely here.


4 posted on 10/21/2004 2:11:36 PM PDT by datura (Let's roll? No, Lock and load.)
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To: Tallguy
>I wonder if this type of sensing could negate stealth technology?

Passive millimeter wave imaging considerations for tactical aircraft

Abstract:
Air Force, Army, Navy, and NASA Research Laboratories, in addition to major aerospace companies, are considering millimeter wave (MMW) imaging technology as an enhancement to sensor suits on both occupied and unoccupied vehicles. This is a review of the basic technology involved in MMW imaging and some of the programs and products that might benefit from passive day or night imaging through mist, haze, fog, clouds, smoke and/or dust. Potential applications include UAV surveillance of ground vehicles, airborne approach to airfields, tankers, flight leaders, and detection of airborne targets, including stealth aircraft.

5 posted on 10/21/2004 2:12:33 PM PDT by theFIRMbss
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To: theFIRMbss

wow, a Glock 7!


6 posted on 10/21/2004 2:13:49 PM PDT by TC Rider (The United States Constitution © 1791. All Rights Reserved.)
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To: fire_eye

Any electromagnetic signal can be jammed. From ELF to EHF - all you need is to transmit the corresponding signal to cancel the other one.

It's when you have multiple signals and their harmonics riding a carrier wave that jamming becomes more difficult.


7 posted on 10/21/2004 2:16:42 PM PDT by datura (Let's roll? No, Lock and load.)
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To: fire_eye
Any receiver in a given frequency band(s) can be spoofed or jammed.
8 posted on 10/21/2004 2:16:58 PM PDT by Blueflag (Res ipsa loquitor)
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To: theFIRMbss

Interesting post!


9 posted on 10/21/2004 2:18:05 PM PDT by The_Media_never_lie
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To: fire_eye

I didn't think there was a natural source for millimeter wave radiation. The article kept mentioning passive millimeter wave processing, but never mentions the source of the radiation.

Im curious about the image of the cars. Is there an active source and what we are seeing is the millimeter reflection?

Peaking my interest here ...

Anyone with a physics background that can answer some questions here ?


10 posted on 10/21/2004 2:18:38 PM PDT by dartuser (Only takes one moment of truth for an unbeliever to become an evangelist.)
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To: theFIRMbss

But if it's in visual or passive sensing range, it's too late.


11 posted on 10/21/2004 2:18:46 PM PDT by datura (Let's roll? No, Lock and load.)
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To: dartuser
"Im curious about the image of the cars. Is there an active source and what we are seeing is the millimeter reflection? "

This is not a radar configuration. You can find electromagnetic energy throughout the spectrum, though we usually call it "noise." This method uses the "noise" as a source and performs incoherent imaging on the return.

So in a sense energy is "reflected," but it's the ambient signal that's reflected not an active radar signal.

Also, 94 GHz is selected as the frequency in order not to be absorbed by water vapor in the atmosphere.

12 posted on 10/21/2004 2:27:43 PM PDT by bcoffey (Bush/Cheney: Real men taking charge, talking straight, telling the truth.)
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To: dartuser
Any object or substance emits radiation according to Planck's blackbody equation. Note that emitted radiation intensity is a function of temperature and wavelength. The peak wavelength for any curve is a function of the temperature ... The peak wavelength for "Earth" at 289K is around 11 microns (or 0.011 mm) but that the curve drops fairly slowly ... there's still some energy out there at 1000 microns (1mm) to work with. Passive microwave radiometry has been done since the 1970s in the cm wavelength realm. Look up the USAF SSM/I sensor for an example of an orbital microwave sensor.
13 posted on 10/21/2004 2:30:48 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard
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To: datura; Physicist; Poohbah
>But if it's in visual or passive sensing range, it's too late

I've read of "passive"
systems that monitor wide
areas. Perhaps

multiple units
can be forward-placed, and then
integrated well . . .

14 posted on 10/21/2004 2:30:51 PM PDT by theFIRMbss
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To: bcoffey

I follow everything you said, and that makes sense. But the source question still plagues me. What in nature would emit 94 GHz radiation that could be reflected and detected? ... Are you saying that the radiation, being just background, is atomic? ... or cosmic, or solar?

See what Im saying ???


15 posted on 10/21/2004 2:32:12 PM PDT by dartuser (Only takes one moment of truth for an unbeliever to become an evangelist.)
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To: bcoffey

It's not all reflected, some of it's emitted. Shiny objects tend to reflect the sky, which (if clear) is very cold. "Dull" surface objects are glowing at that wavelength, due to their temperature. Heat them up enough, and you'll start to see significant glowing at visible wavelengths.


16 posted on 10/21/2004 2:33:40 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard
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To: theFIRMbss

when gets to the passive-meter stage, the world will end.


17 posted on 10/21/2004 2:34:34 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (do not remove this tag under penalty of law.)
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To: dartuser
What in nature would emit 94 GHz radiation

Everything, including you! See Planck's equation.

18 posted on 10/21/2004 2:34:54 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard
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To: ArrogantBustard

You really have me interested now ... I worked with IR at Wright Pat when I was in grad school. The EO group had active millimeter wave systems they were conducting experiments on ... I thought I remember one of the folks telling me there were no natural sources of millimeter wave radiation ... and all work was active ...

Of course, that was in the early 1980s ...

I will surely waste a few hours tonight on the internet reading some stuff.

Thanks for the info ...


19 posted on 10/21/2004 2:37:47 PM PDT by dartuser (Only takes one moment of truth for an unbeliever to become an evangelist.)
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To: dartuser
See post #13. The Planck Law radiation curve gives a brightness of about 10^-13 watts per meter squared per Hz per steradian for a 300K blackbody at 94 GHz.

See Krauss, "Radio Astronomy" for more info.

20 posted on 10/21/2004 2:38:57 PM PDT by bcoffey (Bush/Cheney: Real men taking charge, talking straight, telling the truth.)
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