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To: kabar

True,,,but he HAS to get them both. That is hardly a 'given' now,,,in fact,,,Ohio looks extremely vulnerable now!!!!


14 posted on 10/21/2004 8:55:14 PM PDT by stockstrader
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To: stockstrader

I know - I'm a little worried about things.

All the Pollyannas around here predicting a Bush landslide look pretty silly now.


17 posted on 10/21/2004 8:57:31 PM PDT by RKB-AFG (Don't buy ketchup - buy wood)
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To: stockstrader

Not from the numbers bandied around here. I think it's as in play as it ever was.


18 posted on 10/21/2004 8:57:34 PM PDT by LibertarianInExile (The Fourth Estate is the Fifth Column.)
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To: stockstrader
True,,,but he HAS to get them both. That is hardly a 'given' now,,,in fact,,,Ohio looks extremely vulnerable now!!!!

I don't place too much stock in these polls. Almost all of them are within the MOE. Bush has led in almost all of them, almost all of the time. The polls thought the Governor's race in Florida would be close. From Time magazine 2002.

This was supposed to be a squeaker. It was fair to expect that Florida Governor Jeb Bush's candidacy would be weakened by his state's 2000 election debacle. Democrats were smacking their lips, hoping to extract their revenge. And when challenger and political rookie Bill McBride pulled to within three points in polls taken earlier this fall, it looked like they just might.

But Jeb — and his state's oft-ridiculed electoral system — exorcised the demons of 2000 in convincing fashion Tuesday night. Bush routed Democratic challenger and political rookie Bill McBride — 56% to 43% — becoming the first GOP governor ever to win re-election in Florida. Meanwhile, the state, which as recently as the botched September primary races looked as though it still couldn't vote and chew gum at the same time, finally pulled off an election without a hitch. So efficient and smooth was the voting that within an hour of the polls closing, enough precincts had been counted to call Bush's landslide victory.

Jeb got a big assist from his big brother. President George W. Bush had thrown all his weight behind the Governor — making more than a dozen campaign visits and tailoring a number of White House policies, on issues like Cuba and the Florida Everglades, to help ensure Jeb will be seated in Tallahassee when the 2004 presidential race rolls around.

In 2002 the Dems and McAwful said that they were making the defeat of Jeb Bush a top priority. So much for that. The bottom line is that America will not elect the most liberal senator from the most liberal state in the country to be President. Bush in a landslide.

28 posted on 10/21/2004 9:09:08 PM PDT by kabar
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To: stockstrader; RKB-AFG

"Ohio looks extremely vulnerable now!!!!"

Nope, I don't buy it. The polling is biased towards Kerry. The Media wants Kerry to win. The pollsters want Kerry to win. The polls are manipulated. Kerry is his own worst enemy.

I am confident.


59 posted on 10/22/2004 2:48:40 AM PDT by Rebelbase (President Jimmy Carter is a complete idiot .)
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To: stockstrader

Not to worry. He's going to win Michigan, Wisconsin, and Iowa.


63 posted on 10/22/2004 3:50:14 AM PDT by westmichman (We hunt deer without crawling and use rifles Kerry would ban.)
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To: stockstrader
True,,,but he HAS to get them both. That is hardly a 'given' now,,,in fact,,,Ohio looks extremely vulnerable now!!!!

Not really true. There are more states that were Gore states that are in play, with Michigan and Wisconsin being two biggies moving towards Bush at the moment. But I think the Swifties are wise in their selection. If Bush gets both Florida and Ohio, Bush is a lock. If Bush loses one, Bush will have to win a couple of Gore states. With gay marriage being on the ballot in both Michigan and Ohio, I think that will give a huge lift to Bush in those key states. Gay Marriage could very well be the deciding factor in this election.

70 posted on 10/22/2004 6:21:03 AM PDT by Always Right
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To: stockstrader

No, he doesn't need to get them both. If he gets Florida, he can lose PA, MI, and OH, and still win simply by carrying New Mexico (+7) and Wisconsin. Or Oregon. Or Minnesota. Or Iowa. And he is ahead in all those states. In fact, if he takes the blue states Mason Dixon has him leading in, he can lose all four tossup states.


87 posted on 10/22/2004 8:04:14 AM PDT by dangus
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