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Why This Libertarian Is Voting to Re-elect George W. Bush
The Sierra Times ^ | October 23, 2004 | J. Neil Schulman

Posted on 10/23/2004 10:07:23 AM PDT by J. Neil Schulman


Why This Libertarian Is Voting to Re-elect George W. Bush
By J. Neil Schulman


"If you are part of a society that votes, then do so. There may be no candidates and no measures you want to vote for ... but there are certain to be ones you want to vote against. By this rule you will rarely go wrong."
-- Robert A. Heinlein, The Notebooks of Lazarus Long

I've called myself a libertarian since January 10, 1971, when my mother, a diehard New York Sunday Times crossword-doer, said to me, "Hey your favorite author's picture is in the Times Magazine."

I rushed over and sure enough there was Robert A. Heinlein's picture illustrating an article entitled "The New Right Credo--Libertarianism" by Stan Lehr and Louis Rossetto, Jr., and I said to myself, "So that's what the set-up in Heinlein's short story 'Coventry' is all about." I already agreed with the libertarian philosophy. I just needed a label for it.

Ten months later, in my first semester of college, I started a campus libertarian group. A few months later I began writing for libertarian publications. I've never stopped being a libertarian activist or writer over the subsequent 33 years.

I was one of the first to join the Libertarian Party in New York when it was organized in 1973, and I was one of the first to quit the Libertarian Party and oppose all participation in politics in 1974. I was a non-voter from 1975 to 1990, registering to vote in 1991 after years of political abstinence on the proposition that if voting was participating in State violence, and I could carry a gun to use in violent self-defense if necessary, then I could cast a ballot in self-defense if necessary.

From 1990 forwards I've registered either Libertarian or Republican, depending on whether there was anyone in Republican primaries I needed to vote for (or against), and I've cast my votes either for Libertarian or Republican candidates, except in the 1992 presidential election in which I voted for Ross Perot.

In the 2004 presidential election I will not be voting for the Libertarian Party candidate, Michael Badnarik. I will be voting to re-elect the Republican Party candidate, President George W. Bush.

I regard both Michael Badnarik and George W. Bush as decent men. I had the pleasure of interviewing Michael Badnarik on Cybercity Radio, August 28, 2004, and you can listen to that interview here: http://cybercityradio.com/cc082804.wma

The Badnarik interview is in Hour Two of that show.

Nevertheless, there are two reasons I will be casting my ballot for George W. Bush and not for Michael Badnarik. The first reason is simple reality: Michael Badnarik's prospect for being elected president is effectively zero. The second reason is that George W. Bush is qualified to exercise the executive authority of the presidency and Michael Badnarik isn't.

I realize that most libertarians vote for president not with the intent of electing a man suitable to execute that authority, but as an act of symbolic protest against a government we have considered malevolent and intrusive into our private lives.

When I believed in symbolic protests I refrained from voting entirely, investing my energy in efforts such as the 1976 Vote for Nobody campaign. If publicity was the goal, CounterCampaign '76 was far more cost-efficient in spreading libertarian philosophy than the Libertarian Party. For less than $300 invested we achieved national exposure for our print and radio ads, as opposed to the tens of thousands of dollars the Libertarian Party spent for equivalent exposure that year.

When I became a voter I gave up casting my ballot symbolically in any race in which I believed my ballot stood any chance whatsoever in effecting a preferable outcome. Purists have told me for years that "the lesser of two evils is still evil." I have learned to counter that argument with one taught to me by libertarian author Brad Linaweaver: "the lesser of two evils is less evil."

Let me make a better argument than even Brad Linaweaver's clever response to this libertarian duckspeak.

Good and evil do not exist as Platonic ideals. The tendency of idealists to reject the good alternative, because it is not perfect, is destructive of the achievable good. To the extent that libertarians adopt the Platonic ideal of absolute recognition of all our individual rights, rejecting any good that does not meet this standard even if it's the best existing choice, libertarianism reduces itself to just one more of the many utopian cults that have appeared and disappeared throughout history.

I have many ideological and policy disagreements with George W. Bush. I find his "compassionate conservatism" far too compromising with the institutionalized socialism in our public policy. I vastly prefer the libertarian conservatism of Barry Goldwater or even the National Review conservatism of Ronald Reagan.

But while I find George W. Bush not libertarian enough in his domestic agenda, I find him a strong defender of American values of freedom against the most serious threat against our civilization since the Cold War: organized Islamic crusaders who are willing to engage in systematic attacks on innocent civilians and private property in a hegemonic attempt to prevent free markets from carrying futuristic cultures into their fanatically preservationist societies. The War on Terror is a real war. It's a war against those who wish to make their past our future. It's a war against those who, in a competition between our culture and theirs, have decided to use violence, terror, and brain-numbing propaganda to prevent people – particularly their own people -- from freely choosing our culture over their own.

George W. Bush has correctly concluded that this war can't be won by even the most draconian assaults on our personal liberties in an attempt to create an impregnable "Fortress America," and he has instead decided to remove the war from New York City and Washington DC back to the region that spawned and supports the Islamic crusaders. In the long run, the only way to win is to go on the offensive, because no static territorial defense is ever perfect or permanent.

The only serious opposition candidate to George W. Bush is not Michael Badnarik but John F. Kerry, a man whose entire career has been devoted -- in every possible variant -- to eliminating the independence of the United States of America in favor of the global hegemony of the United Nations, two-thirds of which are one-party-rule dictatorships, theocracies, or kleptocracies.

If John F. Kerry is elected, he will work relentlessly to further damage the independence of the United States with submission to international courts, drawing their power over us from treaties that give foreign totalitarians power to control every aspect of our lives.

Consequently, the most important difference between George W. Bush and John F. Kerry is that George W. Bush will not compromise with those international voices for compromise and appeasement with Islamic terrorists in the defense of American values of free trade and free expression … and John. F. Kerry has spent his life doing so and can be counted on to continue doing so.

Any American libertarians who don't think they would be made less free by the United States submitting to the World Court and the Kyoto Treaty are not worth arguing with.

That's not enough? George W. Bush has shown himself to be a man of his word. Contrary to spin, Bush didn't lie about Saddam Hussein's Weapons of Mass Destruction. The 500 tons of yellowcake uranium and 1.8 tons of refined uranium that Saddam was holding onto showed that he was ready to resume a nuclear-weapons' program as soon as he'd bribed enough UN officials to get sanctions lifted. I'm happy that George W. Bush was farsighted enough to spoil Saddam Hussein's desires to upgrade from paying homicide bombers to blow up school buses in Israel to paying a nuclear homicide bomber to blow up Times Square.

And the last time I checked my notebook on libertarian morality, it's not imperialism when you remove a totalitarian dictator and turn the country over to its people. It's liberation. George W. Bush is the liberator of Afghanistan from the Taliban and Iraq from Saddam Hussein. That also should be enough reason for libertarians to give him another four years.

In his twenty years in the Senate, John F. Kerry never met a gun-control bill he didn't eagerly support. George W. Bush, in his first term as governor of Texas, legalized civilian carrying of concealed firearms … and as president not a single law harmful to gun owners has received his signature.

And whatever you think of George W. Bush's economic policies, is there anyone who's looked at John F. Kerry's voting record as a United States Senator who believes he will give us less government controls – less taxes and regulations -- than George W. Bush?

Libertarians may continue to cast their vote symbolically, by voting for a candidate with no chance of winning. Or, if you're a conscientious objector to politics, you can continue not to vote at all. Admittedly, George W. Bush is not a libertarian by any absolute standard, and if you're afraid that registering to vote will just put you above the radar, you can continue trying to slip between the cracks, if that's your idea of freedom.

But if you think the President of the United States just might have power that could affect your life sometime in the next four years – if you take the State seriously as a threat to your freedom -- you might want to consider shooting off a ballot on November 2nd and voting for the president likely to injure you less.

George W. Bush is vastly more protective of libertarian values than the other guy who might be elected to sit in the Oval Office for the next four years.

President Bush is not the best of all libertarian candidates in some theoretical contest where actually having to be president doesn't count, but compared to John F. Kerry, George W. Bush is without question the more libertarian of the two presidents we will end up with.

That's why I'll be voting for him, and I urge you to do so as well.

J. Neil Schulman

October 21, 2004


J. Neil Schulman's novels have twice won the Prometheus Award for libertarian science fiction, and one of his Los Angeles Times opinion articles was awarded the James Madison Award from the Second Amendment Foundation. On Saturday's he's the West Coast Co-Host of Cybercity Radio (http://www.cybercityradio.com). His full bio is at http://www.pulpless.com/jneil/jnsbio.html and his personal website is at http://www.jneilschulman.com/.




TOPICS: Editorial; Government; News/Current Events; Philosophy; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: badnarik; bush; conservative; election; endorsement; fourmoreyears; goldwater; gwb2004; kerry; libertarian; reagan; republican; sanity; voting
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1 posted on 10/23/2004 10:07:23 AM PDT by J. Neil Schulman
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To: J. Neil Schulman
George W. Bush is vastly more protective of libertarian values than the other guy who might be elected to sit in the Oval Office for the next four years.

Bears repeating for the 'Big L' crowd.

2 posted on 10/23/2004 10:09:14 AM PDT by Wormwood (Iä! Iä! Cthulhu fhtagn!)
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To: J. Neil Schulman

Good job, Neil.


3 posted on 10/23/2004 10:09:38 AM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: J. Neil Schulman

First "Mighty Whitey" Neal Boortz and now this guy. WooHoo!


4 posted on 10/23/2004 10:10:11 AM PDT by MoJo2001 (Join USENET: Meet exciting, unusual people and flame them.)
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To: J. Neil Schulman

Excellent!!! A wonderful read. Thank you so much.


5 posted on 10/23/2004 10:10:47 AM PDT by MarMema (Sharon is my hero)
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To: J. Neil Schulman

Bump.


6 posted on 10/23/2004 10:12:59 AM PDT by Rocko
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To: Wormwood

That's a great quote from Heinlan.

Though I like Bush on many things, I am definitely more anti-Kerry than pro-Bush.


7 posted on 10/23/2004 10:14:36 AM PDT by Aetius
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To: OrthodoxPresbyterian; BibChr; P-Marlowe; jude24

ping to a reasonable voice


8 posted on 10/23/2004 10:15:28 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army and Proudly Supporting BUSH/CHENEY 2004!)
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To: Aetius
Though I like Bush on many things, I am definitely more anti-Kerry than pro-Bush.

While I wouldn't exactly say I was "holding my nose"...hmm, I don;t really know how to finish this sentence. ;-)

9 posted on 10/23/2004 10:17:54 AM PDT by Wormwood (Iä! Iä! Cthulhu fhtagn!)
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To: J. Neil Schulman

The naked truth.


10 posted on 10/23/2004 10:21:08 AM PDT by headsonpikes (Spirit of '76 bttt!)
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To: J. Neil Schulman
Such a looney idea which have brought revulsion to the Founding Fathers, but then they were grounded in reality and self-governance and not some fantasy ideology.
11 posted on 10/23/2004 10:25:42 AM PDT by Cultural Jihad
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To: J. Neil Schulman

But his comparison still shows that the debate has been moved to far to the left. He's afraid of liberals who will enact more freedom eroding gun laws, but it's considered a victory for a Republican merely to hold the status quo. Doesn't some positive progress have to be made as a floodwall against future liberal governments? Maybe even some legislative roadblocks/time bombs left for them to make enactment of their anti freedom agenda difficult. Because if the liberals do damage every time they're in power and the best the conservatives can hope for is to prevent additional damage, the trend is still only going in one direction, albeit more slowly.


12 posted on 10/23/2004 10:29:25 AM PDT by Still Thinking
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To: Still Thinking

The first obvious objection to my question is the sunset of the AWB, but that one was an exception in that it came with an expiration built in. Most freedom grabbing laws do not.


13 posted on 10/23/2004 10:33:33 AM PDT by Still Thinking
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To: J. Neil Schulman

Good post.


14 posted on 10/23/2004 10:33:56 AM PDT by Dissident Aggressor
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To: J. Neil Schulman

I know of 7 such folks who would have never voted for GW before, till this election. All 7 have said that it is no longer an issue thing but a survival issue. They all feel that we are headed into indentured slavery (communism) under Kerry and feel that the nation is more important than their party...I wonder who said that before?


15 posted on 10/23/2004 10:35:37 AM PDT by crz
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To: J. Neil Schulman

Tell that to the loons who are asking for 'Rat money in WI and are hoping to get Conservatives to jump ship on Bush. Saying even if the dems don't agree with them, that it still a win win for them


16 posted on 10/23/2004 10:37:31 AM PDT by jbwbubba (yes yes yes)
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To: lodwick
Libertarian PING

SO9

17 posted on 10/23/2004 10:38:04 AM PDT by Servant of the 9 (We are the Hegemon. We can do anything we damned well please.)
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To: J. Neil Schulman
President Bush is not the best of all libertarian candidates in some theoretical contest where actually having to be president doesn't count, but compared to John F. Kerry, George W. Bush is without question the more libertarian of the two presidents we will end up with.

Well said. I wouldn't mind voting Libertarian for congress this election, assuming he/she has a slim chance of winning. But, to put three Kerry Supreme Court justices on the court would put the US over the edge. Socialism and equal outcome for all (except our elected representatives and judges)!

18 posted on 10/23/2004 10:49:16 AM PDT by 69ConvertibleFirebird (Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience.)
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To: Powerclam
It's a war against those who wish to make their past our future.
That is why I am voting for Bush. If you love liberty, you cannot vote for anyone except W.
20 posted on 10/23/2004 11:02:56 AM PDT by attiladhun2
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To: Still Thinking
the debate has been moved too far to the left. ..........it's considered a victory for a Republican merely to hold the status quo............Doesn't some positive progress have to be made as a floodwall against future liberal governments?

Absolutely. But how, pray tell, is a Kerry Presidency going to accomplish that? (And by voting "L" that is precisely what the practical result of your voting will be). Best to let the GOP "hold the status quo" while citizen-patriots actively attempt to move the debate away from its current (far left) position on the politcal spectrum. Politicians themselves are rarely (if ever) able to move that debate, only grassroots efforts and unforeseen events (like 9/11) can.

Former (big L) Libertarian Ron Paul eventually realized the futility of remaining on that sinking ship and is now a Republican. .......and he didn't have to change his views one iota to do it. Libertarians would be wise to follow his lead.

21 posted on 10/23/2004 11:06:13 AM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: Mr. Mojo

I wasn't suggesting not voting for Bush, or even commenting on the issue as it relates to the presidential election (thus being a bit off topic, I admit), just carping about the assumptions underlying the argument. But I'll ask the corresponding question: How are these "citizen patriots" going to restore the issue to its proper form?


22 posted on 10/23/2004 11:11:54 AM PDT by Still Thinking
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To: J. Neil Schulman

I have abandoned my Libertarian affiliation because the LP's open borders/free trade position would transform our culture to that of a 3rd world nation through the ravages of outsourcing and immigration. Bush and Kerry also support relatively unfettered immigration and free trade, so I was left without any good choice. But I think it is tremendously important that Bush win with the largest margin possible to avoid a judicial coup d'etat by the Democrats and I will be casting my vote for him.


23 posted on 10/23/2004 11:12:25 AM PDT by TexasKamaAina
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To: J. Neil Schulman
Very well stated, Neil. I'm a small-L libertarian, but, I've never seriously thought of joining the LP. Their mindless opposition to fighting the War on Terror sealed it for me.

A libertarian government has an obligation to protect the lives and property of its citizens. The reflexive opposition to the aggressive pursuit of the War shows not only an abandonment of this libertarian value, but it also shows the Party as being no different from any other party. They've staked out a position simply because it's not what "the other guy" is saying. Right or wrong had nothing to do with it; only political expediency.

24 posted on 10/23/2004 11:12:33 AM PDT by Redcloak (Vikings plundered my last tag line.)
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To: Still Thinking

I already told you, by grassroots efforts presenting their small-gov't, constitutionalist positions to electorate. It'll take time, but it's the only change we have. Voting 3rd party sure isn't going to do it, and it fact, will have the opposite effect.


25 posted on 10/23/2004 11:16:03 AM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: J. Neil Schulman
Well said sir. It is nice to find a Libertarian who lives in the real world. Thank you for your support of GW.

As an (little "i") independent these days, I have much to disagree with in the current leadership of the GOP.

However, GW Bush is the right man, at the right time, for the right job. Furthermore, John Kerry is the wrong man at any time for the job.

26 posted on 10/23/2004 11:16:40 AM PDT by ImpBill (America ... Where are you now?)
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To: Mr. Mojo

change = chance


27 posted on 10/23/2004 11:17:59 AM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: crz

I typically avoid any and all Libertarian discussions since they so often completely ignore the facts that this author includes and artfully embellishes.

I will be proud to recommend this article to FRiends and friends.
.


28 posted on 10/23/2004 11:18:09 AM PDT by AFPhys ((.Praying for President Bush, our troops, their families, and all my American neighbors..))
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To: J. Neil Schulman

Wow! A Losertarian with common sense!

You can still be a small-'l' libertarian, Neil.


29 posted on 10/23/2004 11:31:59 AM PDT by Choose Ye This Day (John Kerry: the elite, effete, defeatist. Kerry should be President......of the European Union.)
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To: J. Neil Schulman

Very good post. Bump.


30 posted on 10/23/2004 12:08:34 PM PDT by baseballmom (You Know Where I Stand - GW Bush - 9/2/04 We're standing with you, Mr. President)
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To: J. Neil Schulman

This Libertarian has made the same decision as Schulman. Not all of us are theory wankers who believe that al Qaeda attacked America because we gratuitously went to war against Mexico in 1844.


31 posted on 10/23/2004 3:57:34 PM PDT by BlazingArizona
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To: J. Neil Schulman
I'm unimpressed. Johnny-Come-Lately graces everyone with his fence straddling exhibition.

Libertarians, Libertines, they're all the same to me.

32 posted on 10/23/2004 4:00:31 PM PDT by O.C. - Old Cracker (When the cracker gets old, you wind up with Old Cracker. - O.C.)
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To: crz
They all feel that we are headed into indentured slavery (communism) under Kerry and feel that the nation is more important than their party..

But Bush is pushing us in the same direction. Even his defenders only say that he's doing it more slowly.

33 posted on 10/24/2004 10:01:23 PM PDT by Commie Basher
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To: Commie Basher

Not with the NRST on the table in the congress. Bush has all but said that he would favor it if it gets voted on and passed.

Thast the number one issue that divides this country..Taxes.


34 posted on 10/25/2004 4:00:57 AM PDT by crz
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To: J. Neil Schulman

From one libertarian to another, Neil, where did you get the authority to appoint an agent to excercise dominion over my person and property?


35 posted on 10/25/2004 7:07:36 AM PDT by society-by-contract
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To: society-by-contract
society-by-contract wrote: "From one libertarian to another, Neil, where did you get the authority to appoint an agent to excercise dominion over my person and property?"

"In truth, in the case of individuals, their actual voting is not to be taken as proof of consent, even for the time being. On the contrary, it is to be considered that, without his consent having even been asked a man finds himself environed by a government that he cannot resist; a government that forces him to pay money, render service, and forego the exercise of many of his natural rights under peril of weighty punishments. He sees, too, that other men practice this tyranny over him by the use of the ballot. He sees further, that, if he will but use the ballot himself, he has some chance of relieving himself from this tyranny of others, by subjecting them to his own. In short, he finds himself, without his consent, so situated that, if he use the ballot, he may become a master; if he does not use it, he must become a slave. And he has no other alternative than these two. In self-defence, he attempts the former. His case is analogous to that of a man who has been forced into battle, where he must either kill others, or be killed himself. Because, to save his own life in battle, a man attempts to take the lives of his opponents, it is not to be inferred that the battle is one of his own choosing. Neither in contests with the ballot--which is a mere substitute for a bullet--because, as his only chance of self-preservation, a man uses a ballot, is it to be inferred that the contest is one into which he voluntarily entered; that he voluntarily set up all his own natural rights, as a stake against those of others, to be lost or won by the mere power of numbers. On the contrary, it is to be considered that in an exigency into which he had been forced by others, and in which no other means of self-defence offered, he, as a matter of necessity, used the only one that was left to him."
-- Lysander Spoooner, No Treason, 1870

36 posted on 10/25/2004 9:09:42 AM PDT by J. Neil Schulman
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To: MoJo2001

I love Neal Boortz. I listen to him most days, but lately his predictions Kerry will win have me so upset that I can't listen right now. He believes Kerry's party will do a better job of getting the vote out..voter fraud. If Kerry wins I will be sick!!


37 posted on 10/25/2004 9:26:29 AM PDT by EmilyGeiger (They that can give up liberty to obtain safety deserve neither liberty or safety. Ben Franklin)
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To: crz
Thast the number one issue that divides this country..Taxes.

I don't see how. Both parties spend like crazy, and that has to be paid back. Bush's spending will result in more taxes later, so I'm not too impressed with his tinny tiny tax trim.

38 posted on 10/25/2004 10:48:46 AM PDT by Commie Basher
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To: J. Neil Schulman

It won't take long for you to attacked by the demented authoritarians no matter whether you support Republicans or not. I see some have already done so.


39 posted on 10/25/2004 10:55:09 AM PDT by Protagoras (When your circus has a big tent, you can fit a lot of clowns inside)
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To: O.C. - Old Cracker
I'm unimpressed.

Don't worry, I've never seen a Freeper who was impressed with you.

40 posted on 10/25/2004 10:59:00 AM PDT by Protagoras (When your circus has a big tent, you can fit a lot of clowns inside)
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To: J. Neil Schulman
J. Neil Schulman quoted Lysander Spooner:


"In truth, in the case of individuals, their actual voting is not to be taken as proof of consent, even for the time being. On the contrary, it is to be considered that, without his consent having even been asked a man finds himself environed by a government that he cannot resist; a government that forces him to pay money, render service, and forego the exercise of many of his natural rights under peril of weighty punishments. He sees, too, that other men practice this tyranny over him by the use of the ballot. He sees further, that, if he will but use the ballot himself, he has some chance of relieving himself from this tyranny of others, by subjecting them to his own. In short, he finds himself, without his consent, so situated that, if he use the ballot, he may become a master; if he does not use it, he must become a slave. And he has no other alternative than these two. In self-defence, he attempts the former. His case is analogous to that of a man who has been forced into battle, where he must either kill others, or be killed himself. Because, to save his own life in battle, a man attempts to take the lives of his opponents, it is not to be inferred that the battle is one of his own choosing. Neither in contests with the ballot--which is a mere substitute for a bullet--because, as his only chance of self-preservation, a man uses a ballot, is it to be inferred that the contest is one into which he voluntarily entered; that he voluntarily set up all his own natural rights, as a stake against those of others, to be lost or won by the mere power of numbers. On the contrary, it is to be considered that in an exigency into which he had been forced by others, and in which no other means of self-defence offered, he, as a matter of necessity, used the only one that was left to him." -- Lysander Spoooner, No Treason, 1870


Spooner was not perfect, for instance he embraced The Labor Theory of Value as well as well as voting. Well, here's a quote from the voluntaryist camp:


"To your plea of self-defense, I reply: Fine, defend yourself, but leave me alone. But voting is wrong precisely because it does not leave me alone. If you elect your candidate to office in the name of self-defense, his power will not be restricted to you and to those who voted for him. He will have power over me and others like me as well. ... You presume that you have the right to appoint a political guardian over me — a benevolent one, you claim, but a guardian nonetheless. Now as one libertarian to another, I must repeat my question: Where did you get such a right?"


(George H. Smith "Party Dialogue," p. 23.)

41 posted on 10/25/2004 3:11:55 PM PDT by society-by-contract
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To: J. Neil Schulman
"George W. Bush is vastly more protective of libertarian values than the other guy who might be elected to sit in the Oval Office for the next four years."

It is encouraging to see that you and some other members of the LP actually do understand the process of electing a President. Just when I'm ready to dismiss all Libertarians as blind rhetoric loonies, people like you step forward and demonstrate that there really are some sane and rationale people in your ranks.

42 posted on 10/25/2004 3:17:57 PM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: Protagoras

ouch


43 posted on 10/25/2004 3:42:32 PM PDT by O.C. - Old Cracker (When the cracker gets old, you wind up with Old Cracker. - O.C.)
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To: Commie Basher

You havent been taking notice I see. There are TWO bills that will be placed on the floor of the senate to scrap the present tax system and replace it with a NRST. Without a Bush administration you will NEVER EVER get the chance to see this system replaced by a constitutional tax system.


44 posted on 10/25/2004 5:01:37 PM PDT by crz
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To: MoJo2001

excellent endorsement.
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45 posted on 10/25/2004 7:52:15 PM PDT by AFPhys ((.Praying for President Bush, our troops, their families, and all my American neighbors..))
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To: society-by-contract

society-by-contract quoted George H. Smith:

"To your plea of self-defense, I reply: Fine, defend yourself, but leave me alone. But voting is wrong precisely because it does not leave me alone. If you elect your candidate to office in the name of self-defense, his power will not be restricted to you and to those who voted for him."

Which will be equally true if the candidate I vote against wins.

Your question does not connect to any real world problem.


46 posted on 10/27/2004 10:32:19 AM PDT by J. Neil Schulman
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To: MoJo2001

Who is the man who wrote the "principles" for the Libertarian Party? Today Neal boortz said that that guy is voting for Bush this year!


47 posted on 10/27/2004 10:35:04 AM PDT by Howlin (Bush has claimed two things which Democrats believe they own by right: the presidency & the future)
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To: Redcloak; All

I happen to be a Republican-Libertarian also. I almost voted for the Libertarian Party this year, however the war on terror issue stopped me for voting for them. Basically sticking head in sand and pretend the problem does not exist is not the solution. I like Bush, however, there are few issues that I disagree with him.


48 posted on 10/27/2004 10:40:17 AM PDT by KevinDavis (Let the meek inherit the Earth, the rest of us will explore the stars!)
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To: Howlin

This is the guy!! WooHoo!!


49 posted on 10/27/2004 10:48:32 AM PDT by MoJo2001 (Support Our Troops! Operation Season's Greetings - www.proudpatriots.com)
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To: MoJo2001

Cool!


50 posted on 10/27/2004 11:00:42 AM PDT by Howlin (Bush has claimed two things which Democrats believe they own by right: the presidency & the future)
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