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Big G.O.P. Bid to Challenge Voters at Polls in Key State
NY Times ^ | October 23, 2004 | Michael Moss

Posted on 10/24/2004 2:16:56 AM PDT by Former Military Chick

Republican Party officials in Ohio took formal steps yesterday to place thousands of recruits inside polling places on Election Day to challenge the qualifications of voters they suspect are not eligible to cast ballots.

Party officials say their effort is necessary to guard against fraud arising from aggressive moves by the Democrats to register tens of thousands of new voters in Ohio, seen as one of the most pivotal battlegrounds in the Nov. 2 elections.

Election officials in other swing states, from Arizona to Wisconsin and Florida, say they are bracing for similar efforts by Republicans to challenge new voters at polling places, reflecting months of disputes over voting procedures and the anticipation of an election as close as the one in 2000.

Ohio election officials said they had never seen so large a drive to prepare for Election Day challenges. They said they were scrambling yesterday to be ready for disruptions in the voting process as well as alarm and complaints among voters. Some officials said they worried that the challenges could discourage or even frighten others waiting to vote.

Ohio Democrats were struggling to match the Republicans' move, which had been rumored for weeks. Both parties had until 4 p.m. to register people they had recruited to monitor the election. Republicans said they had enlisted 3,600 by the deadline, many in heavily Democratic urban neighborhoods of Cleveland, Dayton and other cities. Each recruit was to be paid $100.

The Democrats, who tend to benefit more than Republicans from large turnouts, said they had registered more than 2,000 recruits to try to protect legitimate voters rather than weed out ineligible ones.

Republican officials said they had no intention of disrupting voting but were concerned about the possibility of fraud involving thousands of newly registered Democrats.

"The organized left's efforts to, quote unquote, register voters - I call them ringers - have created these problems," said James P. Trakas, a Republican co-chairman in Cuyahoga County.

Both parties have waged huge campaigns in the battleground states to register millions of new voters, and the developments in Ohio provided an early glimpse of how those efforts may play out on Election Day.

Ohio election officials said that by state law, the parties' challengers would have to show "reasonable" justification for doubting the qualifications of a voter before asking a poll worker to question that person. And, the officials said, challenges could be made on four main grounds: whether the voter is a citizen, is at least 18, is a resident of the county and has lived in Ohio for the previous 30 days.

Elections officials in Ohio said they hoped the criteria would minimize the potential for disruption. But Democrats worry that the challenges will inevitably delay the process and frustrate the voters.

"Our concern is Republicans will be challenging in large numbers for the purpose of slowing down voting, because challenging takes a long time,'' said David Sullivan, the voter protection coordinator for the national Democratic Party in Ohio. "And creating long lines causes our people to leave without voting.''

The Republican challenges in Ohio have already begun. Yesterday, party officials submitted a list of about 35,000 registered voters whose mailing addresses, the Republicans said, were questionable. After registering, they said, each of the voters was mailed a notice, and in each case the notice was returned to election officials as undeliverable.

In Cuyahoga County alone, which includes the heavily Democratic neighborhoods of Cleveland, the Republican Party submitted more than 14,000 names of voters for county election officials to scrutinize for possible irregularities. The party said it had registered more than 1,400 people to challenge voters in that county.

Among the main swing states, only Ohio, Florida and Missouri require the parties to register poll watchers before Election Day; elsewhere, party observers can register on the day itself. In several states officials have alerted poll workers to expect a heightened interest by the parties in challenging voters. In some cases, poll workers, many of them elderly, have been given training to deal with any abusive challenging.

Mr. Trakas, the Republican co-chairman in Cuyahoga County, said the recruits would be equipped with lists of voters who the party suspects are not county residents or otherwise qualified to vote.

The recruits will be trained next week, said Mr. Trakas, who added that he had not decided whether to open the training sessions to the public or reporters. Among other things, he said, the recruits will be taught how to challenge mentally disabled voters who are assisted by anyone other than their legal guardians. In previous elections, he said, bus drivers who had taken group-home residents to polling places often helped them vote.

Reno Oradini, the Cuyahoga County election board attorney, said a challenge would in effect create impromptu courts at polling places as workers huddled to resolve a dispute and cause delays in voting. He said he was working with local election officials to find ways of preventing disruptions that could drive away impatient voters and reduce turnout.

State law varies widely on voter challenges. In Colorado, challenged voters can sign an oath that they are indeed qualified to vote; voters found to have lied could be prosecuted, but their votes would still be counted. In Wisconsin, it is the challenger who must sign an oath stating the grounds for a challenge.

"You need personal knowledge," said Kevin J. Kennedy, executive director of the Wisconsin State Elections Board. "You can't say they don't look American or don't speak English."

National election officials said yesterday that Election Day challenging had been done only sporadically by the parties over the years, mainly in highly contested races. In the bitterly contested 2000 presidential election, they said, challenges occurred mainly after Election Day.

The preparations for widespread challenging this year have alarmed some election officials.

"This creates chaos and confusion in the polling site," said R. Doug Lewis, executive director of the Election Center, an international association of election officials. But, he said, "most courts say it's permissible by state law and therefore can't be denied."

In Ohio, Republicans sought to play down any concern that their challenging would be disruptive.

"I suspect there will be challenges," said Robert T. Bennett, chairman of the Ohio Republican Party. "But by and large, people will move through quickly. We want to make sure every eligible voter votes." He added, "99.9 percent will fly right by."

Challengers on both sides said they were uncertain about what to expect. Georgiana Nye, 56, a Dayton real estate broker who was registered by the Republicans as a challenger, said she wanted to help prevent fraud and would accept the $100 for the 13 hours of work and training.

For the Democrats in Dayton, Ronald Magoteaux, 57, a mechanical engineer, said he agreed to be a poll watcher out of concern for new voters. "I think it's sick that these Republicans are up to dirty tricks at the polls," Mr. Magoteaux said. "I believe thousands of votes were lost in 2000, and I want to make sure that doesn't happen in Ohio."

Democrats said they were racing to match the Republicans, precinct by precinct. In some cities, like Dayton, they registered more challengers than the Republicans, election officials said. But in Cuyahoga County, where the Republicans said they had registered 1,436 people to challenge voters, or one in every precinct, Democrats said they had signed up only about 300.

The parties are also preparing to battle over voter qualifications in Florida, where they had until last Tuesday to register challengers. In Fort Myers, Republicans named 100 watchers for the county's 171 precincts, up from 60 in 2000. But Democrats registered 300 watchers in the county, a sixfold increase.

Nader Loses Ohio Ballot Bid

COLUMBUS, Ohio, Oct. 22 (AP) - The Ohio Supreme Court on Friday rejected an effort by Ralph Nader to get his name on the ballot, most likely ending his chances in the state for the Nov. 2 election.

Mr. Nader wanted the court to force election boards to review their voter registration lists, a process he said could have led to the validation of petitions to place him on the ballot. The court ruled 6-1 against him.

James Dao contributed reporting from Ohio for this article, and Ford Fessenden and Anthony Smith from New York.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Ohio
KEYWORDS: bush; kerry; voting
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What is good for the goose is good for the gander. OK, something like that.

But I say, with the dems trickery, we had best be out in force. That will be the only way to win with honesty.

1 posted on 10/24/2004 2:16:57 AM PDT by Former Military Chick
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To: Former Military Chick

to be honest everyone needs to GET OFF THEIR ARSE AND VOTE!!

thank you


2 posted on 10/24/2004 2:18:20 AM PDT by Casaubon (huh??)
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To: Former Military Chick

Glad to hear it! Hope they have as many in Florida too!


3 posted on 10/24/2004 2:20:01 AM PDT by blondee123 (Proud Member of the FR Pajama Blogger Brigade - New Sheriffs in Town!)
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To: Former Military Chick
"Our concern is Republicans will be challenging in large numbers for the purpose of slowing down voting, because challenging takes a long time,'' said David Sullivan, the voter protection coordinator for the national Democratic Party in Ohio. "And creating long lines causes our people to leave without voting.''

Why only your people, Sullivan? Do they have something to hide?

4 posted on 10/24/2004 2:20:48 AM PDT by Dont Mention the War (How important a Senator can you be if Dick Cheney's never told you to "go [bleep] yourself"?)
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To: Former Military Chick
Ohio Democrats were struggling to match the Republicans' move,

Riiiiiight, as if bank robbers would respond to increased bank security by posting guards around their own booty stashes.

5 posted on 10/24/2004 2:23:33 AM PDT by guitfiddlist (When the 'Rats break out switchblades, it's no time to invoke Robert's Rules.)
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To: Former Military Chick

I love how the SLIMES slants this article to make the Republican poll watchers out to be nasty, evil Americans, while the RAT poll watchers are innocent lil schoolkids that are there to counteract the evil that is Republican.

And they make it out like it's a BAD thing that those who shouldn't be voting vote. You gotta love the Old Grey Whore -- always pimping for the DNC.


6 posted on 10/24/2004 2:32:20 AM PDT by GAGOPSWEEPTOVICTORY
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To: Former Military Chick
The parties are also preparing to battle over voter qualifications in Florida, where they had until last Tuesday to register challengers. In Fort Myers, Republicans named 100 watchers for the county's 171 precincts, up from 60 in 2000. But Democrats registered 300 watchers in the county, a sixfold increase.

I trust the Republicans know how many they need and where to send them and have just not been asleep at the switch.

7 posted on 10/24/2004 2:32:59 AM PDT by nathanbedford
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To: Casaubon

I agree. I have decided to make some festive flyers for spook night with information about voting. Perhaps just to remind the parents to vote. I am just grasping at any idea that will get the word out.

sigh


8 posted on 10/24/2004 2:41:22 AM PDT by Former Military Chick (REALLY REALLY Ticked OFF in the heartland)
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To: Former Military Chick

This is fantastic. I am beginning to feel that they may not be able to cheat in the numbers needed to steal the election. This kind of activity surely acts as a deterrent, don't you think? I mean, a fraudulent vote prosecution and jail time, fines, in exchange for what? Plus, all the illegal aliens, you would think they wouldn't want to draw more attention to themselves. Just my thoughts.


9 posted on 10/24/2004 2:42:20 AM PDT by SaintDismas (Jest becuz you put yer boots in the oven, don't make it bread)
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To: Former Military Chick

Great (engaging domestic enemies) news! Thanks for the post.


10 posted on 10/24/2004 2:44:01 AM PDT by PGalt
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To: wequalswinner

And excellent thoughts they are. I would love to crack down on all the voter fraud that is going on. I also think we should have done a lot more directly after the last election.

It is almost as though everyone was on vacation until the last 2 months, and then blaming everyone else for their failures. I know I am going to whine to my Senator until he hears me, we need to improve the system for absentee voters (so our military can vote) and to stop all this trickery. Hey, it is worth a try.

I will respond later on illigal aliens if I get started I will never get to sleep, that would be like having a cup of coffee.

Thanks for the great post.


11 posted on 10/24/2004 2:46:44 AM PDT by Former Military Chick (REALLY REALLY Ticked OFF in the heartland)
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To: Former Military Chick
Some officials said they worried that the challenges could discourage or even frighten others waiting to vote.

Not if they're voting legally it won't.

12 posted on 10/24/2004 2:48:02 AM PDT by Terp (Retired living in Philippines were the Mountains meet the Sea in the Land of Smiles)
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To: Chieftain; Ragtime Cowgirl; gatorbait; GreyFriar; 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub; americanmother; ...

GOP **ping**


13 posted on 10/24/2004 2:48:51 AM PDT by Former Military Chick (REALLY REALLY Ticked OFF in the heartland)
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To: Terp

Exactly, I mean if you are one of the top 10 wanted by the FBI then do not go. Obviously there will police at least periodically driving through the areas were you vote, I would expect that.

But, I do agree if you are voting legally then were is the problem.

Oh my imagination is going wild as to what the dems are going to do.


14 posted on 10/24/2004 2:54:47 AM PDT by Former Military Chick (REALLY REALLY Ticked OFF in the heartland)
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To: GAGOPSWEEPTOVICTORY

"And they make it out like it's a BAD thing that those who shouldn't be voting vote. You gotta love the Old Grey Whore -- always pimping for the DNC."

Pull their media credentials on November 3. By Christas they will be pimping crossword puzzles to stay afloat.


15 posted on 10/24/2004 3:20:40 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Control the information to society and you control society.)
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To: Former Military Chick; All
Crosslinked:

Click the picture & goto "last" for the latest on Vote Fraud:

...and a note from your compiler of links- near the "last" are links about ACORN, Project Vote, PIGRIM, and other far-Left pressure groups who hide under the "activist" label while subverting representative government.

These nasty characters demean and dilute the value of everyone's vote.

The plan, besides their hope of throwing the election to sKerry, is to so thoroughly corrupt the election results that Mr. Bush will either not be taken seriously, or open to impeachment.

You had better take this stuff seriously- it is a dagger aimed at the heart of the Republic.


16 posted on 10/24/2004 3:28:41 AM PDT by backhoe (Just a Keyboard Cowboy, ridin' the Trackball into the Dawn of Information...)
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To: Former Military Chick

Challenge all 'em voters! Me included. If you can't prove you're a 'Merican, then you shouldn't be voting. One man - one vote, just like the Constitution says. Besides, voting is a right, not a priviledge. Incorrectly registered voters should not be allowed to cast a vote. What's wrong with requiring positive ID, in addition to showing your polling card?!?!?


17 posted on 10/24/2004 3:28:42 AM PDT by wvjim (Montani Semper Libre!)
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To: backhoe

If they corrupt the process sufficiently, all those UN observers will stir the pot sufficiently to help Kerry COME INTO POWER. The world-at-large will invalidate the election. We'll have lost our power as private citizens to control our destiny.


18 posted on 10/24/2004 3:31:24 AM PDT by wvjim (Montani Semper Libre!)
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To: GAGOPSWEEPTOVICTORY


THIS REMINDS ME OF VIETNAM!

IT'S ALSO LIKE CAMBODIA!









GUATAMALA! THAT'S IT!

IT'S SEARED INTO MY MIND!




    



19 posted on 10/24/2004 3:39:13 AM PDT by devolve ( -HEINZ-KERRY - LIFESTYLES Of The RICH & FLAMING! - http://pro.lookingat.us/ThisOldDump.html --)
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To: Former Military Chick

Great idea. "Trick or Treat" here is set for the evening of Nov. 1, so I'm gonna P*SS my lib neighbors off. Lot of high dollar lawyers live a block over, and their yards are strewn with sKerry signs. Still coming up with ideas, but I'm sure there'll be words before the night is over...tired of being the passive conservative...


20 posted on 10/24/2004 3:49:21 AM PDT by wvjim (Montani Semper Libre!)
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