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San Diego orders religious banners down (Ramadan banners)
Inland Valley Daily ^ | 10/23/2004

Posted on 10/24/2004 2:11:19 PM PDT by 4.1O dana super trac pak

San Diego - The city ordered the removal of 16 Ramadan banners from lamposts, angering Muslim business owners who say the decision was discriminatory.

For five years, the signs have been a fixture in a southeastern San Diego community during Ramadan, the Muslim holy month of fasting and prayer. The green-and-white banners feature a half moon, star and the words "Ramadan Mubarak," which means "blessed Ramadan."

Abdur-Rahim Hameed, president of the Black Contractors Association, said the removal was "a very upsetting thing." He asked whether the city would also order Christians to take down displays, and said Muslim Americans were being targeted because of the Sept. 11 attacks.

"It's open season on Muslims," he said.

A city code enforcement officer ordered the removal this week because of the religious content of the banners. The officer said the city received a complaint.

The officers' supervisor, code enforcement coordinator Melody Negrete, also noted that the Diamond Business Improvement District, which runs the banner program, had not obtained a permit to display them.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; US: California
KEYWORDS: antiamericanism; antichristian; antisemitism; barbarians; deathcult; devilworship; hatred; killing; massacre; muslimamericans; ramadan; rape; religionofhate; suicidebombing; terrorists

1 posted on 10/24/2004 2:11:19 PM PDT by 4.1O dana super trac pak
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To: 4.1O dana super trac pak

Its nice to see someone in California have some sense.


2 posted on 10/24/2004 2:13:34 PM PDT by proudofthesouth (Boycotting movies since 1988)
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To: 4.1O dana super trac pak
He asked whether the city would also order Christians to take down displays, and said Muslim Americans were being targeted because of the Sept. 11 attacks.
Christian displays? Does he mean all that oderless, flavorless, non-sectarian "happy holiday," "sparkle season" palaver that merchants foist on us?
3 posted on 10/24/2004 2:16:05 PM PDT by Asclepius (protectionists would outsource our dignity and prosperity in return for illusory job security)
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To: 4.1O dana super trac pak

"It's open season on Muslims," he said.
What's the daily limit?


4 posted on 10/24/2004 2:16:12 PM PDT by GSlob
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To: 4.1O dana super trac pak
He asked whether the city would also order Christians to take down displays, and said Muslim Americans were being targeted because of the Sept. 11 attacks.
Christian displays? Does he mean all that oderless, flavorless, non-sectarian "happy holiday," "sparkle season" palaver that merchants foist on us?
5 posted on 10/24/2004 2:16:29 PM PDT by Asclepius (protectionists would outsource our dignity and prosperity in return for illusory job security)
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To: 4.1O dana super trac pak

"He asked whether the city would also order Christians to take down displays, and said Muslim Americans were being targeted because of the Sept 11 attacks...."

Yeah cry me a river it's so tough being islamic nowadays when beheading videos are a form of family entertainment.

Somehow I doubt if there are crucifixes hanging from the lamp posts.


6 posted on 10/24/2004 2:17:19 PM PDT by silverleaf (Fasten your seat belts- it's going to be a BUMPY ride.)
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Memo to IslamoFascists in San Diego: Could you kindly leave my country and go back to you muslim hellhole homelands?

NOW would be a good time.

7 posted on 10/24/2004 2:18:22 PM PDT by FormerACLUmember (Free Republic is 21st Century Samizdat)
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To: GSlob

They should post the bag limit.


8 posted on 10/24/2004 2:19:04 PM PDT by sheik yerbouty
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To: 4.1O dana super trac pak
""It's open season on Muslims," he said."

Amen!

9 posted on 10/24/2004 2:19:29 PM PDT by VaBthang4 ("He Who Watches Over Israel Will Neither Slumber Nor Sleep")
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To: VaBthang4

Amen to that Amen


10 posted on 10/24/2004 2:20:19 PM PDT by Two-Bits (I am voting in memory of those innocents that were incinerated on 9/11! Vote George W Bush)
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To: GSlob
"It's open season on Muslims," he said. What's the daily limit?

*chuckle* The very same thing went through my fertile little mind the second I read that.......


11 posted on 10/24/2004 2:21:53 PM PDT by Viking2002 (Taglines? Vikings don't need no steenkin' taglines..............)
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To: 4.1O dana super trac pak

Pardon me for sounding a dissenting note, but this is stupid. It is yet another example of government attempting to purge the public square of any thing that even hints at religious expression. This is the same rationale that drives the removal of Nativity scenes, threatens to erase a barely noticable angel from the Los Angeles city seal, and led the French to ban head scarfs and "overly noticable" crucifixes in public.


12 posted on 10/24/2004 2:24:09 PM PDT by Cleburne
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To: 4.1O dana super trac pak
"It's open season on Muslims," he said.

"Wabbit season"...."Duck season"....wabbit....duck....

LOL, someone should tell Daffy and Bugs, they'll be so relieved..

13 posted on 10/24/2004 2:27:15 PM PDT by SouthernFreebird
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To: 4.1O dana super trac pak

Muslims should type San Diego, nativity, and remove into google and a few other search engines before they get their shorts all in a bunch.


14 posted on 10/24/2004 2:29:22 PM PDT by perfect stranger (The Hummer is a regular Pat Buchanan on wheels." PJ O'Rourke from C&D magazine)
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To: 4.1O dana super trac pak
"It's open season on Muslims," he said.

Really???

15 posted on 10/24/2004 2:32:19 PM PDT by Rummyfan
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To: Cleburne
San Diego Christians have already seen any remotely Christian display purged from public places in the last 15 years. It's at least good to see the city being consistent.
16 posted on 10/24/2004 2:33:01 PM PDT by Jagdgewehr (Mainstream press is neither)
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To: Jagdgewehr
"San Diego Christians have already seen any remotely Christian display purged from public places in the last 15 years."

Abdur-Rahim Hameed, president of the Black Contractors Association, said the removal was "a very upsetting thing." He asked whether the city would also order Christians to take down displays, and said Muslim Americans were being targeted because of the Sept. 11 attacks.

I'd bet there's another problem going on here and Abdur doesn't know or care about the Christian displays.

17 posted on 10/24/2004 2:40:08 PM PDT by xJones
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To: Jagdgewehr

That's true. I find it ironic that liberals who will espouse the glories of "diversity" will immediately turn around and order the purging of anything religious- unless the religious expression meshes with leftism. Apparently diversity only means leftist ideology, "sexual orientation," and a select sampling of cultures- so long as offensive religious elements are removed.


18 posted on 10/24/2004 2:42:08 PM PDT by Cleburne
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To: 4.1O dana super trac pak
"It's open season on Muslims," he said.

Really ..whats the daily bag limit?

19 posted on 10/24/2004 3:03:15 PM PDT by joesnuffy (America needs a 'Big Dog' on her porch not a easily frightened, whining, French,"Surrender Poodle"..)
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To: 4.1O dana super trac pak

Just noticed there is a long thread on this here:http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1254819/posts


20 posted on 10/24/2004 3:04:32 PM PDT by 4.1O dana super trac pak (Stop the open borders death cult)
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To: Viking2002

"The very same thing went through my fertile little mind the second I read that..."
Well, obviously the human wisdom (or whatever passes for it) cannot exceed certain limits...


21 posted on 10/24/2004 3:07:01 PM PDT by GSlob
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To: Cleburne

Yeah, what you said. Wrong is wrong whether it's targeting Christians or Muslims or Jews. All the "open season on Muslims" comments that are being made on this thread are coming from the same people outraged by the unconstitutional (IMO) decision to keep Christians from displaying nativity scenes. Tasteless comments at best.

On another note, I wonder if this is a case of the Left actually being fair... wrong and miguided, but fair... of if someone is trying to make a point.


22 posted on 10/24/2004 3:26:48 PM PDT by raynearhood ("America is too great for small dreams." - Ronald Reagan, speech to Congress. January 1, 1984.)
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To: 4.1O dana super trac pak
"It's open season on Muslims," he said.
You're either with us or against us.
23 posted on 10/24/2004 3:27:08 PM PDT by cgk (Teresa Heinz Kerry: ``The Democratic machine in this country is putrid.'')
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To: 4.1O dana super trac pak

Whenever I see anything related to Muslims or Arabs, I think of terrorism, murder, & hatred of Christians and Jews. Perhaps sad, but true.


24 posted on 10/24/2004 3:43:34 PM PDT by Kirkwood (I think, therefore I am Republican!)
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To: cgk
I was on a similar thread in the wee hours of the morning this morning.

Islamofacists were going at me hammer and tong.

There are a lot of Islamic sympathizers in this country....even on FreeRepublic.

Wear you hip-boots when discussing Islamofacists.

Take a peek at my tag line.....didn't go over well...lol

25 posted on 10/24/2004 3:47:09 PM PDT by processing please hold (All I ever need to know about Islam, I learned on 9-11)
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To: pbrown
There are a lot of Islamic sympathizers in this country....even on FreeRepublic.

I've gotten flamed a couple of times by islamic sympathizers for pointing out folks with Islamic names were probably islamic. When I would post a link to an Islamic name site, they would just slink away.

26 posted on 10/24/2004 4:17:34 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: PAR35
I feel your pain.

Sittinyonder, was the first person in these forums that threw my conversion to the Republican party in my face.

That hurt...now I consider the source and let it slid off.

27 posted on 10/24/2004 4:27:42 PM PDT by processing please hold (All I ever need to know about Islam, I learned on 9-11)
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To: pbrown

I was just telling my husband about your tagline last night. Complete common sense.


28 posted on 10/24/2004 4:52:26 PM PDT by cgk (Teresa Heinz Kerry: ``The Democratic machine in this country is putrid.'')
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To: pbrown

I noticed that post. I also noticed how they had to change their arguments as the debate progressed.

First it was 'the government shouldn't be able to tell folks what they can do on private property.'

Second, when it became apparent that it was public, not private property, the comments were along the lines of 'they have a right to celebrate their holidays' and 'some muslims are our friends '

Third, 'if you want to take down these signs, eventually you will have to be killing women and children'

Fourth, name calling .

Did I leave anything out of their sequence of logical arguments?


29 posted on 10/24/2004 4:55:41 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: 4.1O dana super trac pak
"It's open season on Muslims," he said.

Oh just shut up and stop with the drama.

30 posted on 10/24/2004 4:57:02 PM PDT by Brad's Gramma (Charlie Brooker is the UK's very own special Michael Moore. Aren't THEY lucky?)
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To: cgk
Thank you.

When I saw it for the first time I couldn't get it out of my mind...it summed up how I feel.

31 posted on 10/24/2004 5:39:49 PM PDT by processing please hold (All I ever need to know about Islam, I learned on 9-11)
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To: PAR35
You got it.

When they started doing that I couldn't debate them any longer. I left that debate intact.

32 posted on 10/24/2004 5:41:57 PM PDT by processing please hold (All I ever need to know about Islam, I learned on 9-11)
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To: 4.1O dana super trac pak
Ramadan Ding Dong..LOL.....
33 posted on 10/24/2004 5:43:44 PM PDT by SunnySide
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To: 4.1O dana super trac pak

Moderate Islam is minority Islam.


34 posted on 10/24/2004 5:48:11 PM PDT by Hammerhead
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To: Hammerhead
Moderate Islam is being quickly over taken by Islamofacists.

And they aren't doing a thing to stop it.....what does that say about the moderates?

35 posted on 10/24/2004 5:55:13 PM PDT by processing please hold (All I ever need to know about Islam, I learned on 9-11)
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To: pbrown

you missed the point. they are only moderate because they are currently in the minority.


36 posted on 10/24/2004 6:22:09 PM PDT by Hammerhead
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To: Hammerhead

Damn, if it goes down the way it looks like it's gonna go down, I better stock up on.....


37 posted on 10/24/2004 9:19:19 PM PDT by processing please hold (All I ever need to know about Islam, I learned on 9-11)
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