Kerry is running with "missing explosives" lie for his final push

MSNBC | 10/27/04

[pabianice]

Dr. Susan Rice, former Clinton Administration national security adviser, is now on MSNBC insisting that the Iraqi missing explosives were there after the US Army arrived and that they were stolen from under the Army's nose and it's all Bush's fault and these explosives are even now on the way to Iran for building atomic weapons and also on the way to terrorists in the US for use in mass killings of Americans.

Her screed is exactly the same as the one Kerry has been belching for several days. This is clearly Kerry's last big push to the election. Clearly, the scripts and marching orders have been fired out from the DNC. That all this in two days would be impossible without complicity of the NY Times and CBS is simply not being mentioned by anyone.

The interviewer is pretty much letting her say whatever she wants with little criticism. And so far, the Bush campaign has yet to respond with any force.

[tomahawk]

How the F would she know, was she there?

What a lying bit*h.

[counterpunch]

The UN lost the explosives on their watch, before the US invasion. The UN "guarded" the explosives with some tape and a little tag, and a promise from Saddam. So Kerry is right about "incompetence", but it was the incompetence of the UN, not President Bush or our military. So what is Kerry's response to this shocking incompetence from the UN?

Listen HERE.

[b4its2late]

He has nothing else, this story is nothing, hence it fits Kerry to a T.

[kempo]

If this is Kerry's last big push he is going to lose and lose big time.

[CzarNicky]

More and more Kerry is starting to sound like Howard Dean.

[wrathof59]

I just had lunch in a food court in Chicago, shared a table with strangers, all agreed that Bush let the terrorists steal the explosives and should not be re-elected. One even said that after his defeat, he should go on trial for treason and be executed.

Another lauded the Moore movie and said this "opened the eyes of a lot Americans, only a few more days and Amreica will be normal again."

Of course it is communist Chicago I was in.

[Red Badger]

Exactly! How does a FORMER administration's official know so much about CURRENT or at least 18 month old circumstances? This means she must either be in contact with TERRORISTS or is lying........

[AngryJawa]

Kerry is running with "missing explosives" ...

This would be "running with scissors'" more radical cousin...8^)

[ottothedog]

on the way to Iran for building atomic weapons

Not sure what the point of that is. Iran could buy this material (from the French, among others) if they want it.

[finnman69]

I heard him screaming and think he sounds like Dean also.

[syriacus]

Kerry couldn't resist being definite, definite, definite about a mere rumor he thought might help him.

Now Kerry's stuck with a millstone around his neck..

Hope he's not too heavy to travel on his polo pony or yacht or Teresa's jet.

[Trippin]

Welcome to bizarro world people. The Dems know they can make up any story now and the lapdog media will try their best to make it stick. It makes me sick.

[Pete]

Their biggest problem right now is that their talking points writer is like 1 1/2 days behind everyone else with respect to this story. The crazy Iran accusations are just icing on the cake.

[afnamvet]

Dr. Susan Rice is a Kerry water carrier.

[BonnieJ]

They had her on with no one representing the other side of the story?

[sandpit]

I'm not so sure Chicago's the only commmie area. If it were up to my coworkers here in Dallas, Bush would lose by about 70%. They are such idiots. I pray Bush wins, not only for the life of our country, but so I can rub it in their smarmy faces.

[syriacus]

The UN lost the explosives on their watch, before the US invasion

Probably too busy chasing after Oil-for-food money.

[Boundless]

Here's a question:

We already know from CBS admissions, that CBS had reserved
the el-primo October Surprise airtime spot (Sunday 60min)
for this bogus story, which leads to the conclusion that
this was the main OctSurp (at least for CBS).

Is the Kerry campaign acting like this is all they have,
and they expect nothing else to turn up?

The snippet I head today of Kerry ranting about this
seems to suggest that it may be a lie, but it's their
carefully-crafted, heavily-invested lie, and they are
sticking with it, because they have nothing else to
talk about. (And it was planned back before the debates.)

[Spok]

An October surprised which is so easily and effectively discredited is not a surprise but a debacle. The incompetence of John Kerry, and/or the people he surrounds himself with, continues to damage his campaign. It's been speculated that the Clintonistas on his campaign are doing their best to pave the way for Hillary's run by sabotaging Kerry. If that's true, John Kerry is truly everyone's fool.

[secret 4 agent]

Kerry doesn't have any other choice at this point because you can bet his campaign managers have told him he's in trouble and could very well end up getting killed in this election as state polls seem to be breaking for the President following the national polls.

[WoodstockCat]

Another lauded the Moore movie and said this "opened the eyes of a lot Americans, only a few more days and Amreica will be normal again."

Did you ask them if they have their "leave America" plans ready?

The fringe of the fringe IMHO...

[syriacus]

Kerry is running with "missing explosives" ..

Kerry'd better watch he doesn't get more rice-shrapnel in his behind.

[Merry]

I feel like I am at war with the MSM. They have the bullypulpit. Do you all realize how frustrated we would be without the Internet to spread the truth? We have to make the MSM accountable for being an arm of the DNC after the election.

[BonnieJ]

We spent the summer in the Seattle area and we heard plenty of that same talk there...DNC talking points are just a part of every-day life there on TV, the newspapers, at various work-places, in neighborhoods.

[Boundless]

> The UN lost the explosives on their watch ...

Whatever the timeline might have been, these munitions
would have been destroyed if the UN had followed the
recommendations of their field people. But the key UN
players in the current fake scandal let Saddam keep
the stuff.

[kx9088]

Well, he's banking on the lack of logic in the thought process (or lack there of) in a good chunk of those that will be voting next Tuesday.

[wrathof59]

Dallas is very fitting, LBJ's War on Poverty resulted in grand entitlements in the large urban areas, taking once proud metropolitan areas and within a few generations producing total socialists.

And we can all thank Lyndon Baines Johnson of Dallas for it.

I feel like puking

[rushmom]

I do find it interesting that he sounds hysterical, not presidential.

[syriacus]

Now Kerry has to hope all the Democrats had already voted by yesterday.

[MNJohnnie]

And so far, the Bush campaign has yet to respond with any force.


You obviously did listen to either Bush's speech today NOR what is topic one on Talk Radio today

Sorry Kerry sounds STUPID AND Rush Limbaugh started making a point that most of your Grim Freepers keep missing.

ALL the stories talk about how these weapons are NUKE Triggers! WAIT I thought "Bush lied" about the WMD programs according to Kerry. Why does Iraq have these Nuke Tiggers then?

You VASTLY overestimate the power of the dinosaur media.

[Merry]

I actually find most of the Dimwits in Dimwitland, Illinois to be rather apathetic. Maybe they won't show up to vote. You can't reason with any of them because they spout the party line. Read Mark Brown's column in the Chicago Sun Times today. I already sent him an e-mail. He is pathetic. He talks about how much he dislikes Kerry but will still vote for him. How sad that the Dimwits are willing to have this total Loser and Traitor be CIC.

[Avenger]

What are the chance that Iran would back up her story? They surely want to see Kerry elected.

[wvobiwan]

Kerry's been toast ever since the debates, it's just the media and the polling companies propping him up now. No amount of Dem. cheating will help him now.

[hflynn]

Dr. Susan Rice, former Clinton Administration national security adviser, is now on MSNBC insisting that the Iraqi missing explosives were there after the US Army arrived and that they were stolen from under the Army's nose and it's all Bush's fault and these explosives are even now on the way to Iran for building atomic weapons and also on the way to terrorists in the US for use in mass killings of Americans.

Isn't it interesting how Dr. Rice endorses President Bush's contention that Iran is part of the Axis of evil.

[rushmom]

Besides, who watched MSNBC?

[unbalanced but fair]

MSNBC, remember? Home of Chrissy matthews and Keith Whatever-His-Name-Is.

[Intolerant in NJ]

Dr. Susan Rice, former Clinton Administration national security adviser, is now on MSNBC insisting that the Iraqi missing explosives were there after the US Army arrived and that they were stolen from under the Army's nose and it's all Bush's fault...there were an estimated 800,000 tons of munitions in Iraq which the militray have controlled and partially destroyed - my calculator shows that the missing explosives is five ten-thousandth of that amount - not a bad record even if it did get away under our watch - but it didn't, because it would have taken forty trailer trucks days to move it all, which would have been pretty obvious to the forces in the area even during the chaos of war - sorry, it ain't going to work, Suzie - you'll have to look for a job some place other than the administration during the next four years.....

[GeorgiaDawg]

Me too...it's amazing what a bunch of lemmings the public has turned into...I'm trying - TRYING - to have faith the the American people will do the right thing on Nov. 2.

[r9etb]

Oh pleeeeeease let this story be correct, and oh pleeeeeeease let the W campaign use this for a TV ad.....

[MNJohnnie]

I do find it interesting that he sounds hysterical, not presidential.


Kerry is spending the rest of the week in Gore states. Guess that means they know they lost it.

[Gucho]

Maybe Kerry will do us all a favor and move to France.

[LongsforReagan]

I wanted to post a vanity but this seems like as good a place as any for this question-

How long will it take Kerry to concede the election? My guess- two days even after W wins 52% of the vote.

[MNJohnnie]

Now Kerry has to hope all the Democrats had already voted by yesterday.


Problem for the Dims. Early returns are showing Bush is winning the early vote. Guess all the "new voters" the Democrat are counting on are waiting to vote Nov 2nd? I thought they were more intense, more motivated then ever? Would of thought they were getting to vote as soon as possible? Turnout, turnout, turnout!

[kx9088]

Now Kerry has to hope all the Democrats had already voted by yesterday. Why? Most Democrats will eat this up as 100% Grade A fact and when everyone starts to read into, see the facts and call BS on Kerry yet again, they'll just say the rest of us are idiots.

[mattdono]

Did she happen to mention any proof?

Oh, sorry, we were talking about a Kerry spokesperson. I forgot. They don't need any proof.

[Darkwolf377]

I guess he was down to this or "Kenneth, what is the frequency?" or "Soylent Green is made from people!"

[BonnieJ]

He will concede in January, after taking it to every court in the land, contesting 20 states, smearing Republican election tactics and making sure the world sees Pres. Bush as an illegitimate leader, again.

[backhoe]

Let me get this straight. The NYT issues a bogus story on missing explosives. Kerry then makes it a key part of his campaign. Then the NYT reports on the new theme of Kerry's campaign. Then Kerry makes an ad touting the NYT story.

 

Here's a fast grab of all the links & relevant commentary I have so far:

 

  Feb. 2003 UN Report: Saddam Moving Explosives From Al-Qaqaa

 

 Urgent Warning on Iraqi Cache Issued in 1995

 

  Kerry slipped in 2nd debate, gave hint of CBS / NYT explosives story to come!

 

 CBS eyed '60 Minutes' Bush bombshell

 

 NYTrogate, Tora Bora, Put Kerry Back In His Element: Slamming the Military

 

Media Shamelessly Shilling for Kerry and Kerry Brazenly Lying

 

 

Invitation to a Defrauding (links CBS's 2003 article : U.S. Searches 'Suspicious' Iraqi Site

 

 Kerry slipped in 2nd debate, gave hint of CBS / NYT explosives story to come!

 

Media Watchdog: 'October Surprise' Blows Up in Faces of NY Times, CBS News

 

 Kerry Ad Promoting LIES about Missing Explosives Is LIVE 

 

 Be prepared [call to action on Kerry ad based on explosive lies]

 I've read the Kerry ad. It may be built on deceptions and half truths but it's an effective ad and it will require not rebutting but refutation.

 President Bush needs to make a statement; have a press conference - something straight from the President himself and NOW. . .stop the lies. . .stop the misinformation. . .stop the Kerry camp in it's tracks. . .NOW; by stepping up and out. . .taking advantage of his position as President so speak directly to the people. He should have a 'fireside' everynight. . .or Press conference every day. . .

 NBC Video vs. Kerry Campaign Video... ~4:41pm~ EST
SEEMS INCREDIBLE THAT NEARLY 24 HOURS AFTER NYTIMES STORY IS BLOWN AWAY - JOHN KERRY CONTINUES TO USE IT ON THE TRAIL: The Daily Recycler has done everyone in the blogosphere a tremendous service by editing together Kerry's specific statements and the actual truth from NBC News. WATCH THE VIDEO HERE (1:27), LISTEN HERE TO THE 3 HOUR EXPOSE we did on air today.

 

 **CALLING ALL 101st AIRBORNE MEMBERS, AIRTIME TO TELL YOUR STORY**

 YET ANOTHER SERVICEMAN REFUTES THE TIMES ACCOUNT [10/26 05:23 PM] --

 http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1257884/posts

 YET ANOTHER SERVICEMAN REFUTES THE TIMES ACCOUNT

 

 Toronto Star continues to lead with false weapons report

 

 Hanoi Kerry attacks 101st Airborne in "Ammogate" smear ad.

 

 

 60 MINS PLANNED BUSH MISSING EXPLOSIVES STORY FOR ELECTION EVE  "Do they have something else to spring on us on Thursday? That's supposed to be the time to have the maximum impact on the election...that's when the DUI story was released in 2000."

 Question seems to be IS THIS THEIR BEST SHOT?? I'm confident it won't be their last.

 

Missing Explosives Story Missing Facts

NYTrogate--

  http://www.dailyrecycler.com/blog/2004/10/nytrogate.html

 

 

Rush just read a CNN story from 1/2003 "Al Aqaa a WMD site"...anyone have a link (vanity)

  The Iraqi explosives story CBS and the New York Times ran yesterday is a fraud. These weapons were not there when US troops went to this site in 2003. The IAEA and its head, the anti-American Mohammed El Baradei, leaked a false letter on this issue to the media to embarrass the Bush administration.  Here you go:

Link to CNN Story

 http://www.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/meast/01/24/sprj.irq.inspections/index.html

Here is a link to DRUDGE story on it:

Link to DRUDGE story

 Fox also had an article about Qa Qaa Site:

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,83252,00.html

 

 UN Report in 2003 notes Iraq "lost" HMX & converted remaining HMX stocks into "industrial explosive"  Uh oh, looks like the MSM got caught with it's pants down again.

 

 

 DRUDGE: Kerry/Edwards Campaign Preparing Campaign Ad On Missing Explosives 

As I said yesterday, Joe Lockhart on the Kerry-Edwards conference call yesterday said the missing explosives: "Central issue for the rest of the campaign."

This is their October Surprise and they have nothing else but vote fraud. They have to go with this story no matter if it is a lie or not. They have nothing else. Desperation has set in for the Dems and it is blowing up in their face.

We in the "New Media" need to keep telling everyone we know that this story is a "LIE" and Kerry is a liar as well as MSM

 Edwards rips Bush for lost Iraq explosives (Will Edwards apologize now?)  I have been contacting the media sources that are continuing the missing explosives lie trying to pressure them to issue retractions and to get Kerry Campaign people to comment on the latest information about this story that they have been using as a political attack against President Bush. I urge you all to do the same.

 

 

 NYT's October Surprise Collapses

 Why don't they just call it the Oct 25th Surprise, since they have a new one everday.

 Analysis Of An October Surprise

 This is not the real October surprise- it's too early for the critical hit; there's a whole week for the story to be shot at and sunk - The real attack comes at the end of week and is directed at Bush's character, a follow-up to the Kitty Kelly and Dan Rather types of attack.

 

  THE DITTOCAM IS ON! Live Rush Thread   Rush is ripping CBS, NYT, and Kerry a new one. (LOVING IT)  
I have a feeling that this is going to hurt CBS and Kerry in the long run. I am glad that NBC came forward with their footage showing the explosives were moved before we took Baghdad. You would think that CBS and Dan Rather would have learned their lesson after Memo-gate-- In a lot of workplaces today (and for the next week) people are fixating on the election. It's topic #1 in conversations. So even if the MSM doesn't get on it, those of us of the PJ platoons can burn peoples ears off at work about it.

 

 

NBC BLOWS A HOLE IN NY TIMES' EXPLOSIVES STORY (KERRY SPOT)

 "what's coming out now is just old useless info. Am I wrong?"

I believe you are correct, if they had anything, anything at all they would have used it by now. They are recycling old news- remember the national guard story they tried to resurrect and put some extra pepper on it by sending in FAKE documents. Again the bloggers came to the rescue and were the first to prove the documents as false. Everything they have tried to throw at this president has fallen flat on its face-

 

 October Surprise Foiled

 "Obviously this isn't a case of Bush failing to "guard" the explosives. By the time our troops got there they weren't there to guard."

Another CLASSIC case of guilt by accusation. The truth didn't matter, only the accusation. And once again, the MSM jackals run full tilt with the story, without adequate corroboration, as long as they had any chance of smearing President Bush. The decades long practice of MSM lies, smears, and propaganda against Republicans continues.

 

 Campaigns head to Wisconsin - President fires back on explosives lie

 

 

 Drudge now reporting Iraq depot story was shopped to CBS' 60 minutes before reported by NYT   60 Minutes wanted to report this garbage on election eve...

 Dear God these people at CBS and in the MSM are desperate to bring down a sitting POTUS...at any cost. I suspect anything and everything reported as NEWS for the last half century from the MSM...

 

 Kerry wants answers on missing explosives

 Report: Explosives already gone when U.S. troops arrived (CNN reporting on this now)

 It's on the CNN website http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/meast/10/26/iraq.explosives/index.html I sent a copy to myself, just in case it disappears.

 "Are you keeping up with this on the thread about Hanoi Documents: Two recently discovered documents captured from the Vietnamese communists during the Vietnam War strongly support the contention that a close link existed between the Hanoi regime and the Vietnam Veterans Against the War (VVAW) while John Kerry served as the group's leading national spokesman"

 http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1256997/posts

 See page 25 of THE FBI FILES

 More to investigate for the John F. Kerry Timeline.

 Hanoi John: Kerry and the Antiwar Movement’s Communist Connections

 Credit: Captain's Quarters, complete with WashPo articles and Lexis Nexis'd archives of the timeline and Kerry's schedule.

 Here's the direct link to the WinterSoldier.com article that this WorldNetDaily article is summarizing:

John Kerry and the VVAW: Hanoi's American Puppets?

 What ironies! Bob Woodward and the press fought to bring to light the Watergate facts. Today, the MSM consciously avoids the facts and it is left to ordinary patriots to uncover the rot. Well done.

 Link

 I've known all this (not about Kerry, specifically, but the war protestors) since my days in military intelligence. I never thought I'd see the day that a 'useful idiot' or worse, communist mole, would be nominated for the highest office in the land.

 

 HUGE CACHE OF EXPLOSIVES VANISHED FROM SITE IN IRAQ AT LEAST 18 MONTHS AGO BEFORE TROOPS ARRIVED

[Steve_Seattle]

The MSM is running out of time for an October Surprise. The explosives story is backfiring, and there's now only about 24 hours left for them to re-load before the weekend news cycle hits. Stories that break on Friday often lose momentum over the weekend.