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Powell backpedals on Taiwan remarks
Seattle Times/Reuters-ComPost ^ | 10-28-04 | None given

Posted on 10/28/2004 7:29:24 AM PDT by tallhappy

Thursday, October 28, 2004, 12:00 A.M. Pacific

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Powell backpedals on Taiwan remarks

By Reuters and The Washington Post

WASHINGTON — U.S. Secretary of State Colin Powell yesterday carefully avoided repeating a suggestion he made earlier this week of an eventual reunification of China and Taiwan.

Powell's suggestion, made during a visit to China, alarmed Taiwanese officials who regard the island as an independent nation.

Asked about the comment, Powell reverted to the U.S. State Department's long-standing position that China and Taiwan should seek a "peaceful resolution" of their disagreements. He took no position on the outcome in comments to CNBC, according to a transcript released by the State Department.

Powell, in a pair of television interviews Monday in Beijing, said the United States holds that there is only one China and that Taiwan is not an independent nation. He went on to suggest that Taiwanese and Americans as well as Chinese are seeking to bring about the island's reunification with the mainland.

The comments, broadcast by CNN and the Hong Kong-based Phoenix news channel, veered noticeably from the standard formulations of U.S. policy, which was worked out in three U.S.-Chinese communiqués issued after President Nixon resumed contacts with China in 1972.

China has claimed sovereignty over Taiwan since their split at the end of the Chinese civil war in 1949 and has threatened to invade if the self-ruled democratic island, which it regards as a renegade province, formally declared independence.

The fuss demonstrated anew the high level of tension across the Taiwan Strait and the strained formulas that China and Taiwan use to argue about their long standoff. But it also drew attention to an expanding gap between U.S. policy, which has not changed in a quarter-century, and Taiwan's steadily evolving idea of itself as an independent country determined not to be swallowed up by China.

Alarmed, Taiwan's leaders accused Powell of springing an unfair surprise with a major policy shift and reaffirmed their passionate insistence that the island is independent, in fact if not in law.

"Other countries, with or without formal diplomatic relations with us, cannot affect or deny the current situation and the fact that the Republic of China, or Taiwan, is a sovereign, independent country," President Chen Shui-bian said in Taipei on Tuesday.


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: china; powell; taiwan
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To: Tailgunner Joe
The voting. Most people from taiwan are there because their ancestors left China in the 16, 17 and 1800's and emigrated there. They were later Annexed by the Ching, then ceded to Japan in 1895. They formed their own Taiwan Republic which lasted a few months until japan took them over. For 50 years they were part of the japanese empire. Chinese took over in late 1945 after Japan lost. China then moved in 1.5 million people after the communists took over China and ran the country.

Now Taiwan is politically free and democratic. It makes as much sense for Taiwan to be part of China as it does for the US to become part of the UK again.

The view that taiwan is Taiwan and China is China has now won elections and will continue.

They want to be their own people, as do Americans, and don't trust China anyhow.

In my opinion this makes sense and is the best thing -- even if China becomes free.

21 posted on 10/29/2004 9:54:06 AM PDT by tallhappy (Juntos Podemos!)
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To: bluegill
If they DIDN'T stop there and went after the United States, they'd have wound up with their fleet at the bottom of the Pacific and their cities in ruins. Wait, that IS what happened, isn't it!

Yah, which contradicts your earlier comment that the "last time the United States acted as Nationalist China's protector (1941) it brought us the attack on Pearl Harbor, involvement in World War 2, and 400,000 dead."

War with Japan happened because Japan wanted war with us, not simply because we were protecting China. President Bush has said that allowing murderous tyrannies that attack their neighbors to go unchecked threatens all of us. That premise is applicable ot Imperial Japan in the 1930s and 40s.

22 posted on 10/29/2004 10:05:45 AM PDT by Fatalis (The Libertarian Party is to politics as Esperanto is to linguistics.)
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To: tallhappy

You may be right that the people support independence, but the "The KMT insists that the ROC is an independent country," so what is the dispute? What good would a declaration of independence do? How would the U.S. react to such a declaration? I think badly. It could cost Taiwan vital U.S. support.


23 posted on 10/29/2004 10:08:37 AM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Tailgunner Joe
"The KMT insists that the ROC is an independent country," so what is the dispute?

I agree and the President of Taiwan agrees and that is the view I am talking about.

It is the KMT, or Pan-Blue, that keep making some sort of distinction which makes no sense. They are also the ones trying to stop the arms sales. They sound like liberal dems now.

24 posted on 10/29/2004 10:24:49 AM PDT by tallhappy (Juntos Podemos!)
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To: tallhappy

That's funny, I thought their indignance at Powell's remarks reminded me of you.


25 posted on 10/29/2004 10:33:23 AM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: bluegill
Yamamoto was talking about attacking Pearl Harbor as early as 1940, and formally proposed the attack in January of 1941. It's not accurate to say that without our actions concerning Nationalist China in 1941 that we wouldn't have been attacked.
27 posted on 10/29/2004 11:13:55 AM PDT by Fatalis (The Libertarian Party is to politics as Esperanto is to linguistics.)
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To: Fatalis
The last time the United States acted as Nationalist China's protector (1941) it brought us the attack on Pearl Harbor, involvement in World War 2, and 400,000 dead. You'd think we learned our lesson after that. But in the end Imperial Japan was defeated. If war is the price we must pay for protecting Taiwan then that is a price I am gladly willing to pay. Besides. Just ONE Ohio class submarine has more nuclear throw weight than the entire PRC missile force.
28 posted on 12/06/2004 4:38:12 AM PST by Paul_Denton
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