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US releases pre-war photo of Iraqi weapons
AFP | 10/29

Posted on 10/28/2004 11:22:58 PM PDT by ambrose

US releases pre-war photo of Iraqi weapons

By Jim Mannion

Washington - On Thursday the Pentagon released an aerial photograph of the Iraqi facility where hundreds of tons of powerful explosives have gone missing, showing two trucks parked by a bunker just before the American-led invasion.

The issue of the missing weapons has taken the forefront of the American presidential race.

The bunker was at Al Qaqaa Explosives Storage facility where the high explosives were kept under seals placed by the International Atomic Energy Agency, but United States Defence Department spokesperson Lawrence DiRita said US officials did not know what the trucks were doing there.

He also could not say if the bunkers contained any of the explosives reported missing earlier this month by the Iraqi government and the IAEA.

The photograph was taken on 17 March 2003 - two days before US forces invaded Iraq and the same day that the last IAEA inspectors left the country.

"We believe this is a period of time when there was no international observation and prior to the beginning of the war, and certainly prior to the presence of US forces," DiRita told reporters.

He said the Pentagon released the photograph to show activity on the facility before the war, but was not suggesting the picture showed the removal of the missing high explosives.

"There is a perception that this facility was under some sort of hermetic seal between the time the IAEA last looked at the facility in January (2003), when they actually counted weapons... and the time US forces arrived in April," he said.

"The only point we've been trying to make is not that we know what happened there, but that stuff was happening on this facility at the time at which it was under Saddam's control," he said.

DiRita said another photograph taken on 1 April 2003 of a nearby airfield also showed a lot of vehicles on it.

"But we don't know what that means. It's only a kilometre or two away from the bunkers," he said, adding that that photograph was not being released.

US Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld said earlier in a radio interview that it was "very likely" that the explosives were removed before the war by Iraqi president Saddam Hussein, but offered no concrete evidence.

"I guess the first thing to say about it is that first reports are almost always wrong," he said in an interview with a Philadelphia radio station.

"And people who use hair-trigger judgement to come to conclusions about things that are fast moving frequently make mistakes that are awkward and embarrassing," he said.

Although he mentioned no one by name, Rumsfeld appeared to be alluding to Democratic presidential candidate John Kerry who has repeatedly cited the disappearance of the explosives in campaign attacks on President George Bush.

The declassified aerial photograph was posted on the Pentagon's website.

A caption said the picture shows two trucks parked outside one of the 56 bunkers at the Al Qaqaa Explosive Storage Compex. A blowup of the image is inset in the picture.

"A large, tractor-trailer (yellow arrow) is loaded with white containers with a smaller truck parked behind it," it said.

International inspectors identified bunkers in the complex as containing High Melting Explosive, or HMX, but not all the bunkers were believed to contain HMX, it said.

UN inspectors were believed to have visited the complex on March 15, and the UN weapons inspection staff was withdrawn from Iraq two days later, it said.

In the interview with WPHT radio, Rumsfeld argued that removing the explosives after the arrival of US forces would have been detected because of the size of the operation required.

"Picture all of the tractor trailers and fork lifts and caterpillars it would take to move 377 tons. And we had total control of the air. We would have seen anything like that," he said.

"So the idea it was suddenly looted and moved out, all of these tons of equipment, is I think at least debatable," he added.

"And it's very likely that, just as the United States would do, Saddam Hussein moved munitions when he knew the war was coming."


TOPICS: Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: alqaqaa; ammogate; iaea; iraq

1 posted on 10/28/2004 11:23:01 PM PDT by ambrose
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To: ambrose
The military should really be taken to task for this whole botched situation. That there could be a cache of very portable high energy explosives that was not closely monitored by our intelligence agencies is inexcusable. That site should have been the first to be completely and utterly destroyed in the 'shock and awe' campaign.

If they saw trucks there, they should have blown them up, and later claimed that it was a radar truck illuminating an aircraft in the no-fly zone. Failing that, those trucks should have been closely monitored, as you don't send Akmehd to the corner bunker to pick up some C4, you send your trusted people to get those explosives for your own military uses. It would have easily led them to vital command and control locations, or to direct evidence that other nations were buying up Saddam's weapons in the pre-war fire sale.

The failure here isn't Bush's, it was the military, and it is this type of failure that comes back to haunt us for decades to come. When were the weapons taken? Who cares; the issue to me is why we don't know when they were removed, why we don't know where they went, and why that depot was permitted to exist into the period of the land war.
2 posted on 10/28/2004 11:32:33 PM PDT by kingu (Which would you bet on? Iraq and Afghanistan? Or Haiti and Kosovo?)
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To: kingu

Uhhh, we only know in hindsight that they were trucking materials out to Syria.

The military can't be exected to secure every possible weapons dump or set off cruise missles every time a truck is parked in front of a facility.


3 posted on 10/28/2004 11:36:53 PM PDT by ambrose (http://www.swiftvets.com)
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To: ambrose

Nice. I especially like that there's no linked picture and no link to the original article.


4 posted on 10/28/2004 11:41:38 PM PDT by AdequateMan (I keep wanting to type "Feral" government instead of "Federal". Is that a freudian slip?)
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To: ambrose
You have a weapons dump which they knew the contents of, knew that the location contained high energy explosives, and knew that those would be highly desired by people who mean us harm. If that isn't a priority target, I'm confused as to what one is.

But fine, let's toss out the military from the equation. Why didn't the CIA destroy this facility or render it safe? Why didn't they at least monitor it carefully enough to know when and where those explosives went?

Sure, perhaps they do, and as a matter of state security they aren't releasing it. Or perhaps as a matter of political activism, they aren't releasing it. After this election is over with, I hope there will be a deep investigation into what happened, not by the showboaters in Congress, but by the oversight boards that are supposed to keep an eye on such things.
5 posted on 10/28/2004 11:45:17 PM PDT by kingu (Which would you bet on? Iraq and Afghanistan? Or Haiti and Kosovo?)
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To: kingu

Sorry, sometimes *$#@ happens. We don't live in a perfect world. 3 tons of missing explosives out of the nearly 500k tons we've secured is a drop in the bucket.


6 posted on 10/28/2004 11:50:57 PM PDT by ambrose (http://www.swiftvets.com)
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To: kingu

Just for your information in the future, the defined job of the military is to to close with and destroy enemy forces. That says nothing about posting a large contingent of guards at every one of over 10,000 arms caches that were in Iraq at the time. There were over 400,000 tons of explosives confiscated since we got there.

The military, deprived of its' second prong in the attack by Turkey, was moving as fast as it possibly could in order to keep the Iraqi military off balance - and saving the lives of our forces. In fact, if you remember, they were moving so fast that the logistics had trouble keeping up with the combat forces. This was Blitzkrieg taken to a level that no military force on Earth has ever witnessed in the history of mankind. What were they supposed to do, leave combat units at every arms depot? Then what would they arrive at Baghdad with? As an infantryman, I resent the entire basis of your comment, and the lack of tactical knowledge behind it. So now all these months later, the DNC decides to put out this crap and we have to explain why it works this way to you? Because you don't personally agree with the way this war was waged?

There's a whole lot of info about this small piece of the puzzle that isn't in the public arena FOR A REASON. For you to second guess the military is arrogant beyond belief. (Especially given that you obviously have never served in a combat unit.)


7 posted on 10/29/2004 12:12:06 AM PDT by datura (Let's roll? No, Lock and load.)
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To: AdequateMan

AFP is a french press organization

Rarely tell the truth about USA


8 posted on 10/29/2004 12:20:46 AM PDT by CyberAnt (Election 2004: This election is for the SOUL OF AMERICA)
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