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Pentagon: US Forces Removed 250 Tons of Al Qaqaa Explosives
A Different Drummer ^ | 29 October 2004 | Nicholas Stix

Posted on 10/29/2004 11:15:15 AM PDT by mrustow

In a noontime press conference today at the Pentagon, Pentagon spokesman Larry Dirita and Army Maj. Austin Pearson, an ammunition management officer who was at the Iraqi ammunition depot Al Qaqaa in spring, 2003 with the Army 3rd Infantry Division, cast doubt on the New York Times/CBS News report alleging that 377 tons of Iraqi munitions had disappeared from the site, after it had come under American control in April, 2003.

Maj. Austin estimated that his unit removed 200-250 tons of munitions, and Mr. Dirita emphasized that reports that 141 tons of RDX explosives were at the facility under IAEA seal may be mistaken, and that perhaps only three tons of RDX were at the facility.

An ABC News report by Martha Raddatz and Luis Martinez on Wednesday, first revealed the 138-ton discrepancy, which could reduce the amount of Al Qaqaa explosives in question to approximately 239 tons. The Raddatz/Martinez report also emphasized that the IAEA seals were not secure; weapons could have been removed through unsealed ventilation slats. Together with the 200-250 tons that Maj. Austin’s unit removed from Al Qaqaa, the new information could explain the disposition of virtually the entire weapons cache at Al Qaqaa.

Reporters at the news conference continued to ask Mr. Dirita and Maj. Pearson about explosives under IAEA seal, ignoring the updated reports by Dirita, Pearson, and ABC News, questions which continued to assume the truth of the most negative initial reports.

Mr. Dirita emphasized that at present, no one knows exactly what happened to the entire Al Qaqaa weapons cache.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: alqaqaa; ammogate; austinpearson; cbs; dod; hmx; kerrylies; larrydirita; newyorktimes; octobersurprise; qaqaa; rdx
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1 posted on 10/29/2004 11:15:15 AM PDT by mrustow
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To: mrustow



KERRY CAMPAIGN IS CRUMBLING!!!

KERRY OTHER-THAN-HONORABLE DISCHARGE FROM THE US NAVY!!!!


MUAHAHAHAHAHA FOUR MORE YEARS BABY!!!!!


2 posted on 10/29/2004 11:16:06 AM PDT by Josh in PA
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To: Josh in PA

I hope you're right, but I'm not about to celebrate prematurely. Remember what happened once in New Hampshire, when Bob Dole went ot bed too early?


3 posted on 10/29/2004 11:17:39 AM PDT by mrustow ("And when Moses saw the golden calf, he shouted out to the heavens, 'Jesus, Mary, and Joseph!'")
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To: All; Admin Moderator

A FReepmail I just got........




From F0URM0R3 | 10/29/2004 2:12:34 PM EDT replied

John Kerry isn't siding with the IAEA. The IAEA warned the administration to secure the explosives at Al Qaqaa. The Bush administration did not do their jobs. The troops in Iraq are now being killed with those weapons. The Bush administration is blaming the troops for not securing the weapons.







F0URM0R3 <<<<<<<<<< TROLL

F0URM0R3 <<<<<<<<<< TROLL

F0URM0R3 <<<<<<<<<< TROLL

F0URM0R3 <<<<<<<<<< TROLL


4 posted on 10/29/2004 11:17:52 AM PDT by OXENinFLA
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To: Josh in PA

Yes - I will be walking on airif the discharge rumors pan out - that will take away 95% of the "hero's" campaign...


5 posted on 10/29/2004 11:18:40 AM PDT by trebb (Ain't God good . . .)
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To: All

BTTT


6 posted on 10/29/2004 11:22:01 AM PDT by mrustow ("And when Moses saw the golden calf, he shouted out to the heavens, 'Jesus, Mary, and Joseph!'")
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To: mrustow

I think that in these last few days the Kerry campaign is just trying to put any story out into the MSM. They know that in the few hours or days that it takes to verify, they already have their wolves booking time to discredit Bush in anyway they can. But they never address the issues again, when the TRUTH comes out!


7 posted on 10/29/2004 11:23:01 AM PDT by all4one (Dear Pres. Reagan, time for you to call in your favors with St. Peter - Nov. 2nd is almost here!)
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To: trebb

Is there something new on this? The stories in the Sun about the discharge and Hanoi connection have been swamped by other stories like al QaQaa have been ignored. The only new I've heard is that Kerry slipped up and admittd hs records have not been released.


8 posted on 10/29/2004 11:23:37 AM PDT by topdog1
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To: Peacerose; Shermy; Timesink; seamole; Fred25; Free ThinkerNY; ouroboros; ChaseR; A.J.Armitage; ...

Breaking News!


9 posted on 10/29/2004 11:24:01 AM PDT by mrustow ("And when Moses saw the golden calf, he shouted out to the heavens, 'Jesus, Mary, and Joseph!'")
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Wow, more twists than a good spy novel.

first it was taken by looters ... no, taken before ... no, it was there after ...

Pentagon removed it???? Game over.


10 posted on 10/29/2004 11:24:17 AM PDT by WOSG (George W Bush / Dick Cheney - Right for our Times!)
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To: all4one
I think that in these last few days the Kerry campaign is just trying to put any story out into the MSM. They know that in the few hours or days that it takes to verify, they already have their wolves booking time to discredit Bush in anyway they can. But they never address the issues again, when the TRUTH comes out!

Exactly! What was the line (from Ben Franklin, IIRC): "A lie can get halfway around the world, before the truth gets its pants on." And by the time the truth gets on its way, more lies are in circulation.

11 posted on 10/29/2004 11:26:09 AM PDT by mrustow ("And when Moses saw the golden calf, he shouted out to the heavens, 'Jesus, Mary, and Joseph!'")
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To: topdog1

There is a forum on swiftvet site where a supposed Navy Chief claims they found the person who issued an "Other than honorable" discharge to kerry. Still rumor mode, but would be great if it pans out...


12 posted on 10/29/2004 11:26:17 AM PDT by trebb (Ain't God good . . .)
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To: OXENinFLA

Thanks. F0URM0R3 is no longer with us.


13 posted on 10/29/2004 11:26:55 AM PDT by Admin Moderator
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To: mrustow

But did the 3rd Division troops remove the material from AL Qa Qaa or destroy it at the the explosives testing area?


14 posted on 10/29/2004 11:27:23 AM PDT by chemical_boy
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To: mrustow
I posted this earlier on another thread: I'd appreciate your comments if I've missed something.

No one seems to be picking up on what I beleive was obvious from Major Austin Pearson's comments at the Pentagon Press Conference.

The Major saw NO IAEA marked explosives (PETN/RDX/MDX) in the opened bunkers that he emptied of 200-250 tons of various types of explosives!

That fact leads to two conclusions: either it wasn't there when he arrived (meaning Saddam and/or the Russians got rid of it prior to war) or it was under lock and key in the bunkers he didn't empty (meaning we controlled it because there was no looting going on.)

Thus either the "bad stuff" was gone when we got there, or it was destroyed by US coalition forces after the locked bunkers were opened, and no one noted that some of had IAEA stickers.

If I've missed something, let me know.....

15 posted on 10/29/2004 11:29:50 AM PDT by HardStarboard (Surrounded by Kerry/Edwards Signs in Washington State)
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To: mrustow

Heh heh heh--this is rich. As noted here at FR earlier in the week, the real number of missing "boom" material was possibly closer to 3 tons. Nice to see that validated.


16 posted on 10/29/2004 11:33:13 AM PDT by The Toad
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To: mrustow

Thanks. I think that what is important here is NOT the partisan spin on this issue, it is that the facts come out on this. Bottom line: The explosives were there, now they aren't. Who has them? Our troops over there don't care about the spin, they care about their safety.


17 posted on 10/29/2004 11:36:09 AM PDT by conserv13
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To: trebb

c'mon, noone believes he was a hero anymore, even the rats.


18 posted on 10/29/2004 11:36:19 AM PDT by epluribus_2
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To: WOSG
Wow, more twists than a good spy novel.

first it was taken by looters ... no, taken before ... no, it was there after ...

Pentagon removed it???? Game over.

I wonder what really happened. We may never know. And who knows; the surprises may not yet be over.

19 posted on 10/29/2004 11:42:24 AM PDT by mrustow ("And when Moses saw the golden calf, he shouted out to the heavens, 'Jesus, Mary, and Joseph!'")
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To: chemical_boy
But did the 3rd Division troops remove the material from AL Qa Qaa or destroy it at the the explosives testing area?

Apparently, they removed it from Al Qaqaa AND destroyed it at Dogwood in June.

20 posted on 10/29/2004 11:44:39 AM PDT by mrustow ("And when Moses saw the golden calf, he shouted out to the heavens, 'Jesus, Mary, and Joseph!'")
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