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Voters claim abuse of electoral rolls (Barf Alert)
The Observer via Guardian.co.uk ^ | 10/31/04 | Greg Palast

Posted on 10/30/2004 2:43:44 PM PDT by conservative in nyc

An Observer investigation in the United States has uncovered widespread allegations of electoral abuse, many of them going uninvestigated despite complaints of what would appear to be criminal attempts to manipulate voter lists.

The allegations, which come just two days before Americans go to the polls in one of the most tightly contested elections in a generation, threaten to plunge Tuesday's count into a legal minefield and overshadow even the elections of 2000.

The claims come as both Republicans and Democrats put in place up to 2,000 lawyers across the country to challenge attempts to manipulate the vote in swing states.

Although allegations of misconduct have been levelled at both parties recently, the majority of complaints that have been identified in The Observer' s investigation involved claims against local Republicans.

The claims, made by the BBC's Newsnight, follow alleged attempts by Republicans to illegally suppress the votes in key states. Republican spokesmen deny these allegations.

One of the more serious claims is that no action has been taken in a complex fraud, where more than 4,000 Florida students were allegedly conned into signing a form which could lead them to be doubly registered and void their votes. The Florida Law Enforcement Department has told the complainants that it is too busy to investigate.

In Colorado too, Democrats are complaining about an attempt to remove up to 6,000 convicted felons from the electoral roll, at the behest of the state's Republican secretary of state, Donetta Davidson, despite a US federal law that prohibits eliminating a voter's rights within 90 days of an election to give time for the voter to protest.

(Excerpt) Read more at guardian.co.uk ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: guardian; observer; spin; votefraud; voterfraud
I think this Greg Palast clown was on Hannity and Colmes yesterday. He's a Democrat operative, although he wouldn't admit it to Hannity. This story will blow back into some U.S. papers tomorrow.
1 posted on 10/30/2004 2:43:46 PM PDT by conservative in nyc
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To: conservative in nyc

Oh yeah. Palast is a big hero amoung DU types.


2 posted on 10/30/2004 2:47:08 PM PDT by Callahan
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To: conservative in nyc

"Claim" is the right word. Using that word, evidence is not needed.


3 posted on 10/30/2004 2:50:18 PM PDT by Freepdonia (Victory is Ours!)
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To: conservative in nyc
Although allegations of misconduct have been levelled at both parties recently, the majority of complaints that have been identified in The Observer' s investigation involved claims against local Republicans.

Greg Palast, is, in short, a radical Leftist propagandist. And a liar, if that's not too redundant.

4 posted on 10/30/2004 2:50:49 PM PDT by atomicpossum (If there are two Americas, John Edwards isn't qualified to lead either of them.)
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To: conservative in nyc

Greg Palast litterally wrote the book on how Bush stole the last election. I heard him on the Bernie Ward show (radio talk show here, well, back at home on KGO radio. Local mostly liberal radio station). Talk about conspiracy theorist, Bush is evil, the right is taking our rights away, media is a crazed corporate shill, BRITISH liberal (he used to work for the BBC as a 'investigative reporter'). He was a kook then, and he is a kook now. Seems to have this air of superiority given how stupid we were to allow Bushie here the Presidency.


5 posted on 10/30/2004 2:51:19 PM PDT by Simmy2.5 (Kerry, because we should be U.N. Cool!)
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To: conservative in nyc

Palast is a far left tranzi. (Transnational Progressive)


6 posted on 10/30/2004 2:52:11 PM PDT by reformedliberal (Springsteen Concert: Kerry's Farewell Tour)
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To: conservative in nyc
Got a large double-side, glossy brochure from the dem party here in madison, wi telling me to be on the lookout for "Republican Tricks and Intimidation"

The brochure went on to say that if I were to witness something that I should report it to one of the many 'volunteers' who would be wearing, armbands I think with 'Act' or maybe 'Act-up' on them. (am at work and the brochure is on its way to a landfill)

A real load of crap, as the stealth-commie dems are the only ones who have been disenfranchising or intimidating voters that I know of!

7 posted on 10/30/2004 2:56:18 PM PDT by NoClones
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To: reformedliberal

This is via the Guardian remember, I take it with a grain of salt...


8 posted on 10/30/2004 2:57:30 PM PDT by BladeLWS
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To: conservative in nyc
I have a suspicion that this election will be a circus, or worse. It may eclipse the debacle of the Bush/Gore/2000 fiasco.

Across the country, voters are going to be harassed for proof of identification. Compounded with the bizarre amount of newly registered voters, confusion on where they can vote and other pesky details that will be challenged on election day, I don't think it would surprise me if there is absolute turmoil about the national election results.

I'm not trying to a read crystal ball or tea leaves, just putting the puzzle pieces on the table. In our rural county of Ohio, both the democratic and republican parties have decided to "play nice" and not challenge voters at the polls. http://www.starbeacon.com/index.asp?MC=NEWS&NID=1&AID=6459

The Cleveland media reported a week or so ago that the Board of Elections has been "overwhelmed" this year... hinting that they may not have all the voter data properly processed by yesterday (the day voting materials have to be shipped to the precincts).

Statewide, the Secretary of State/State Supreme Court ruled last week that should an individual show up to vote, be at the wrong place or not on the rolls at all, they will NOT be given a provisional ballot (previously how the matter was handled). I can hear the throngs screaming "disenfranchised" now; as they expect the more densely populated counties will have the most mistakes (hence, poorer, "minority" laden areas).

Fasten your seat-belts and get out your popcorn, we are in for one hell of a ride. Admission is free, but the cost will be high.
9 posted on 10/30/2004 3:01:33 PM PDT by fone
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To: conservative in nyc
I've seen Palast on C-SPAN and he's a full-blown Marxist propagandist. He wrote a book on the 2000 election debacle in Florida and accused Jeb Bush and Katherine Harris of everything short of killing John Kennedy, repeating and beefing up every myth and lie the democrats told about that situation. When a caller pointed out that all these problems occurred in democrat-run counties, Palast immediately started screaming 'racist'.

He lives in England and writes for the Guardian; apparantly he can't even find anyone stateside to publish his garbage.

10 posted on 10/30/2004 3:03:32 PM PDT by Morgan's Raider
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"the majority of complaints that have been identified in The Observer' s investigation involved claims against local Republicans. "
Guess what happens when you walk around with one eye closed?
You only see one side of the story...
After 2000, anyone who doesnt know what side of the aisle Palast stands firmly on, doesnt know who he is.
11 posted on 10/30/2004 3:18:48 PM PDT by 45semi (A Kennedy speaking, and the wind from me arse, bear suspicious resemblance...)
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To: conservative in nyc
Democrats are complaining about an attempt to remove up to 6,000 convicted felons from the electoral roll
12 posted on 10/30/2004 3:25:59 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: conservative in nyc

Greg Palast
13 posted on 10/30/2004 3:29:16 PM PDT by kcvl
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One of the more serious claims is that no action has been taken in a complex fraud, where more than 4,000 Florida students were allegedly conned into signing a form which could lead them to be doubly registered and void their votes. The Florida Law Enforcement Department has told the complainants that it is too busy to investigate.

I coudn't stand listening to this guy on H&C last night, a total nut job but there are plenty of people who want to believe his BS as gospel.

Has anyone heard of the above student scam he was talking about? I never heard of it, not even on DU.

14 posted on 10/30/2004 3:31:01 PM PDT by NEPA
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To: conservative in nyc
The claims

Two Words: Prove it!

15 posted on 10/30/2004 3:31:57 PM PDT by Cowboy Bob (Fraud is the lifeblood of the Democratic Party)
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To: Callahan
Greg Palast's book, The Best Democracy Money Can Buy

"The Florida [election] show is being taken on the road and is going to be imposed on all 50 states. Centralization, computerization, purging the voter rolls. That is completely unreported, and it's going to fix the 2004 election if it's close," says investigative journalist Greg Palast.

Like all good gossips, Palast likes to name-drop. Several times during our conversation, and once during his lecture, he mentioned that he would be lunching with Noam Chomsky in Boston, the next stop in his 27-city tour. Michael Moore, whenever Palast speaks of him, is re-dubbed "My Good Friend Michael Moore." Indeed, as a reporter Palast is warmly embraced by a network of progressives that includes, along with stalwarts like Chomsky and Lapham, upstarts like Moore, Joe Conason, and Jim Hightower. Yet despite their championship and the exhaustive documentation Palast uses to back up all his reports, mainstream press outlets have been decidedly cool to him, at least on this side of the Atlantic. His explosive report about the "scrub list" that struck thousands of legal voters--mostly minorities--off the Florida voter rolls before the 2000 election (detailed in his book) was roundly ignored by the major print and broadcast media in the US. A section editor at one major newspaper told me that he had been warned by his colleagues that Palast was a "loose cannon."

More here...

16 posted on 10/30/2004 3:35:34 PM PDT by kcvl
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