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Schilling pitches for Bush; Kerry enlists Red Sox's front office
SportsLine ^ | October 31, 2004

Posted on 10/31/2004 12:38:47 PM PST by ConservativeStatement

BOSTON -- Looking to share some of the magic that propelled the Boston Red Sox to their first World Series title in 86 years, President Bush enlisted a fan favorite to deliver his pitch while Democratic Sen. John Kerry recruited the team's front office.

Curt Schilling, the Red Sox winning pitcher in Game 2 of the World Series, endorses Bush in automated recordings that will be used in three competitive states -- New Hampshire, Maine and Pennsylvania -- before Tuesday's voting.

(Excerpt) Read more at sportsline.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Politics/Elections; US: Massachusetts; US: New Hampshire
KEYWORDS: curtschilling; epstein; gotv; gwb2004; newhampshire; owners; redsox; schilling
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I just saw Epstein on TV ridicule President Bush and endorse Kerry.
1 posted on 10/31/2004 12:38:49 PM PST by ConservativeStatement
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To: MassRepublicanFlyersFan

Whcih will fans cototn to most - the hero Red Sox pitcher or the suit in the front office? The answer is obvious.


2 posted on 10/31/2004 12:39:50 PM PST by Zack Nguyen
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To: MassRepublicanFlyersFan

Whcih will fans cototn to most - the hero Red Sox pitcher or the suit in the front office? The answer is obvious.


3 posted on 10/31/2004 12:40:22 PM PST by Zack Nguyen
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To: MassRepublicanFlyersFan
Schilling pitches for Bush; Kerry enlists Red Sox's front office

Last I read, the "front office" (which Kerry enlisted) ordered Schilling to shut up about his support for Bush.

So much for freedom of speech. The Leftists can dish it out, but they can't take it.

Frickin' hypocrites.

4 posted on 10/31/2004 12:41:44 PM PST by Prime Choice (Laura Bush is like everyone's sweetheart. Teresa Heinz-Kerry is like everyone's mother-in-law.)
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To: MassRepublicanFlyersFan

This could only make a difference in New Hampshire. It is too bad that Schilling could not get with the Prez up there yesterday!


5 posted on 10/31/2004 12:41:59 PM PST by Radix (Help, someone stole my Tag Line and replaced it with an exact duplicate!)
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To: Zack Nguyen
Whcih will fans cototn to most - the hero Red Sox pitcher or the suit in the front office?

Right on. Down here folks love the Orioles and absolutely hate the owner - Peter Angelos - an ambulance chasing Clinton lover.

6 posted on 10/31/2004 12:42:40 PM PST by jackbill
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To: Prime Choice

Agreed!


7 posted on 10/31/2004 12:43:17 PM PST by ConservativeStatement
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To: Zack Nguyen

Clearly little theo squashed Schilling's trip to nh with W, not his doctor as the msm reported.


8 posted on 10/31/2004 12:43:20 PM PST by pipecorp ("never know where you're going till you get there." the philosopher Insectus Harem)
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To: Radix
This could only make a difference in New Hampshire

Could help in Philly as well.

9 posted on 10/31/2004 12:43:35 PM PST by bikepacker67
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To: MassRepublicanFlyersFan

The Red Sox management jinxed the team in the first place by trading away their star pitcher, Babe Ruth. (Turns out he could hit too).

If Schilling wants Bush, New England voters ought to give it to him. It's a small price to pay and after all, they don't want another curse.


10 posted on 10/31/2004 12:44:23 PM PST by Question Liberal Authority (How do you ask a goose to be the last goose to die for the Kerry campaign?)
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To: Question Liberal Authority

I am sure people KNOW that the front office of the Red Sox org is who made Schilling sit out the campaign trail with the President, and that makes them look bad.


11 posted on 10/31/2004 12:46:16 PM PST by LegalEagle61
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To: MassRepublicanFlyersFan
Kerry spokesman David Wade reminded baseball-crazed voters that when George W. Bush was owner of the Texas Rangers he voted against creation of the wild card. The Red Sox qualified for the playoffs through the wild card. "When legions of Sox fans go to the polls on Tuesday, they'll remember that if George Bush had his way the Red Sox wouldn't have ever won the World Series," Wade said in a statement.

LOL, now the Kerry campaign is concerned about someones voting record now...
12 posted on 10/31/2004 12:47:02 PM PST by bahblahbah
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To: Radix
It can make a difference in NH and Maine's second district.

As of now on Daly's site W is at 259 add either Wisconsin or Minnesota that gives you 269.Plus Maine's second congressional district that would put W over the top at 270 without NH,Ohio,Minnesota,Wisconsin,or Hawaii.
13 posted on 10/31/2004 12:50:10 PM PST by Reaganez
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To: LegalEagle61

Everyone in New England knows it was Schilling who won the series with his bloody red sock. They all know Schilling is rooting for Bush. If they want to risk a curse, that's their business.


14 posted on 10/31/2004 12:55:57 PM PST by Question Liberal Authority (How do you ask a goose to be the last goose to die for the Kerry campaign?)
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To: Reaganez

Boy, we just back from Maine and New Hampshire and I could not believe all of the Kerry signs. They must outnumber Bush signs 50:1. We were primarily in Portsmouth NH and Portland ME. Now I know that part of Maine leans left but I was truly horrified by NH.

I live on the South Shore of MA and I find the signs pretty evenly divided.

Hope Schilling helps.


15 posted on 10/31/2004 12:58:52 PM PST by surrey
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To: MassRepublicanFlyersFan

I just sent the following email through the official Red Sox web site:

I am concerned that Curt Schilling was pressured by Red Sox management not to appear with President Bush in NH, but then Henry, Epstein et al. are themselves appearing with Kerry. It seems unfair and a double standard. The supposed medical excuse seems questionable to me, since he started twice in the post-season, and was in the victory parade yesterday. I hope that this is honestly looked into regardless of who wins the presidential election.


16 posted on 10/31/2004 12:59:32 PM PST by Unam Sanctam
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To: Radix

Schilling used to pitch for the Phillies and was a fan favorite...


17 posted on 10/31/2004 1:01:06 PM PST by Hurricane Andrew (History teaches that wars begin when governments believe the price of aggression is cheap.)
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To: MassRepublicanFlyersFan

This is a good microcosm of this whole election. The rank and file players stick up for Bush, the millionaire tighta#*ed front office cronies stick up for Kerry.

This mirrors the AFL-CIO support of Kerry. While the rank and file workers support Bush, the marxist union leaders funnel money to the DNC and sell out the rank and file by supporting Kerry. What's wrong with this picture.


18 posted on 10/31/2004 1:05:39 PM PST by orangelobster
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To: Hurricane Andrew

Regarding the credibility of the endorsers:

Curt Schilling: Future Hall of Fame pitcher, Two-time World Series hero (actually 3, if you count 1993 with Philadelphia), with genuine impressive accomplishments in baseball.

Theo Epstein: 2nd-year nobody computer-nerd GM who got $130 million in payroll to work with, but still needed Schilling to go out there bleeding, to bring home a title. And for this little sniveller to be popping off with a resume lacking anything of substance, is a joke.


19 posted on 10/31/2004 1:10:46 PM PST by raptor29
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To: Unam Sanctam; Hurricane Andrew
"..It seems unfair and a double standard..."

The"official reason" was that Schilling could not travel because of his injury. This after a return to Boston from St. Louis, and DisneyWorld.

I did not recall that Schilling was a former Phillie. Boston is American League after all. Thanks!

20 posted on 10/31/2004 1:12:56 PM PST by Radix (Help, someone stole my Tag Line and replaced it with an exact duplicate!)
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To: bikepacker67

Am I the only one on FR who has qualms about Schilling or any other athlete-celebrity trying to influence votes just on his celebrity status and nothing else?
We rightfully condemn Penn,Streisand,Baldwin and the whole Hollywood liberal elite for their absurd intrusions into an area they know little about.Does anyone REALLY believe Schilling is any more informed than they are about the great issues of the time?
Riverman


21 posted on 10/31/2004 1:15:08 PM PST by Riverman94610
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To: orangelobster

Isn't this the reverse of stereotype? Rich Republicans (should be the owners, right) and everybody else Democrats,(should be the players, right?)


22 posted on 10/31/2004 1:16:58 PM PST by WHATNEXT? (That's PRESIDENT BUSH (not Mr.)!!)
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To: surrey

Portsmouth is a liberal hot spot full of pseudo intellectuals and other assorted wannabe hippy types. Drive a few miles inland towards the Lakes Region if you want to see the REAL N.H.


23 posted on 10/31/2004 1:20:21 PM PST by got_moab? (Kerry 04' - "A Wet Fart For America!")
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To: Zack Nguyen
WhcihWhich will fans cototn cotton to most - the hero Red Sox pitcher or the suit in the front office?

I always pay to see ball games because I love those owner guys. Who wants to hear what those rubes in the funny outfits on field have to say. They're paid to play. Its the suits in the owners box that have to work.

Yeah, that's the ticket. The owners or bosses are the true workers. The players are impediments to the owners ability to redistribute their wealth. It's the players fault that ticket prices for professional sports are so high. It has nothing to do with the profiteering of the robber owners that are in bed with the local and state governments so they can raid the treasuries to build stadiums with our tax dollars so they can sell you the priviledge to offer to buy season tickets.

24 posted on 10/31/2004 1:22:44 PM PST by woofer
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To: WHATNEXT?

"Isn't this the reverse of stereotype? Rich Republicans (should be the owners, right) and everybody else Democrats,(should be the players, right?)"

Yes, welcome to 'what's next.' The anti-establishment '60's boomers are now the establishment and are in league with the corrupt elite power structure. the young republican club member is the new hippie. Same old story, but the players have changed.


25 posted on 10/31/2004 1:24:19 PM PST by orangelobster
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To: surrey

surrey, I live on the South Shore as well and I have only seen 1 Kerry sign and two Bush signs, very strange, I drive through three towns on my way to work each day and these are the only three signs I've seen, I had (notice the operative word here is HAD) a Bush/Cheney sign on the front lawn but it mysteriously disappeared, put a home made one out and that one disappeared. I now have a Bush sign out back on my deck, waiting for the little fu*^er to come on my deck and take this sign!


26 posted on 10/31/2004 1:27:24 PM PST by rockabyebaby (What goes around, comes around!)
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To: bahblahbah

Typical Dim mantra: Everything is Bush's fault.


27 posted on 10/31/2004 1:31:33 PM PST by ConservativeStatement
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To: MassRepublicanFlyersFan

Schilling trumps Epstein every time.


28 posted on 10/31/2004 1:34:07 PM PST by hershey
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To: MassRepublicanFlyersFan

And I just finished watching Stolen Honor on Charter Cable...Metrowest Boston, channel 17. They'll be running it again and they're running it in NH.


29 posted on 10/31/2004 1:35:10 PM PST by hershey
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To: Riverman94610

Well, when the rest of them stop maybe we will stop too. Why should we sit with our mouths shut while those loudmouths get on TV every opportunity they have to shill for kerry and his ilk. In my mind...its fair game now so if there are celebrities on our side let them go at it and so be it. When everyone stops we'll stop. I'm tired of sitting here being nice while the opposition rips our President to shreds and sides with the enemy. No way no how.


30 posted on 10/31/2004 1:37:05 PM PST by cubreporter (-I trust Rush...he will prevail in spite of the naysayers.)
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To: Riverman94610

No you are not the only one on Free Republic against celebrity endorsements, but you seem to be the only one not upset that pressure was brought to bear on this man by Democrats , not to give that endorsement.


31 posted on 10/31/2004 1:37:37 PM PST by sgtbono2002 (I aint wrong, I aint sorry , and I am probably going to do it again.)
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To: hershey

I heard longtime Boston area sports radio personality Eddie Andelman criticize Epstein earlier this summer. Andelman is a staunch Republican.


32 posted on 10/31/2004 1:38:21 PM PST by ConservativeStatement
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To: Question Liberal Authority
Everyone in New England knows it was Schilling who won the series with his bloody red sock. They all know Schilling is rooting for Bush. If they want to risk a curse, that's their business.
Even after Bloody Sock, Part 2 (WS Game 2) Yankee fans still don't believe he was injured at all. Typical. Believe it or not, I have no problem if the Sox asked him not to campaign for W. They are his employer, and they have the right to ask him not to do something that invokes their name. This is not censorship. Only the government can censor someone. (New York Met) Al Leiter campaigned actively for Mike Bloomberg 3 years ago (he even emceed the inauguration), and the Mets asked him not to do it again. Because, even if he's doing it on his time, the team's name is linked with his, and it gives the appearance that the team itself is somehow involved. We all know we here would be pissed if an athlete actively campaigned for Kerry and would be glad if his team asked him to shut up. It works both ways.
33 posted on 10/31/2004 1:40:34 PM PST by kellynch (Whining about income inequality is a cop-out. -- Walter E. Williams)
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To: kellynch
Even after Bloody Sock, Part 2 (WS Game 2) Yankee fans still don't believe he was injured at all. Typical. Believe it or not, I have no problem if the Sox asked him not to campaign for W. They are his employer, and they have the right to ask him not to do something that invokes their name. This is not censorship.

As a Yankee fan, Curt Schilling is not exactly on my list of favorite people. And he shouldn't have used the ankle as an excuse to go out on the trail with Bush, when he went to Disney World and back on Thursday. But I am glad he did this phone message thing. That being said, it's a bit hypocritical if the Sox owners told him not to go out on the campaign trail with Bush, when they're out on the campaign trail with Kerry today.

34 posted on 10/31/2004 1:48:20 PM PST by NYCVirago
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To: surrey
I just got back from seeing President Bush in Portsmouth, NH, and a couple of days in Maine, and was pleasantly surprised by how many BUSH sign there were. Downtown Portsmouth and Portland are ripe with Kerry signs, but Bush had more along Route 1 through Ogunquit, Wells, Kennebunk, Kennebunkport, and up toward Freeport, and the South Coast of Maine is more Kerry country than Bush.
35 posted on 10/31/2004 1:48:31 PM PST by Shqipo (The gloves are on and the corners are empty.)
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To: NYCVirago
I have been a Mets fan since 1962 and a Sox fan since 1975. Schilling is DEFINITELY on my list of favorite people -- especially this year! *grin*

Regardless, I am glad he was able to make the phone messages. But, considering that his surgery is scheduled for early this coming week (MRI tomorrow), perhaps the story about the doctor nixing his going on the stump is true.
36 posted on 10/31/2004 2:10:32 PM PST by kellynch (Whining about income inequality is a cop-out. -- Walter E. Williams)
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To: kellynch
I have been a Mets fan since 1962 and a Sox fan since 1975. Schilling is DEFINITELY on my list of favorite people -- especially this year! *grin*

While I appreciate his pro-America, pro-military, pro-Bush stances, he gets on my last nerve with the other stuff that comes out of his mouth, like him trashing the Yankees. Hey Curt, it's not your place to decide who a good Yankee is, and a bad Yankee is. Just enjoy your WS title and stop the trash-talk!

Regardless, I am glad he was able to make the phone messages. But, considering that his surgery is scheduled for early this coming week (MRI tomorrow), perhaps the story about the doctor nixing his going on the stump is true.

Like I said, he made it to Disney World and back on the bum ankle. But I thought just now that maybe he deliberately used the ankle as an excuse for the Bush thing because he wanted people to realize it wasn't his choice not to go on the campaign trail. While I'm not crazy in general about celebrities telling us who to vote for, if the left can do it, so can our side. And it's clear with Schilling that him speaking out at all on politics is pretty courageous, considering the way the left makes conservatives' lives so miserable in the first place. The media always complains about how athletes today don't have the "social conscience" that Muhammad Ali did, then, why one of them speaks out on the important issue of the day, they call this athlete divisive. It's pretty darn hypocritical.

37 posted on 10/31/2004 3:19:18 PM PST by NYCVirago
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To: kellynch

Can't disagree more. As an employer I wouldn't, couldn't, interfere with my employees right to free speech. And, unfortunately, it happens that my COO is a leading democrat committeeman, and most of my employees are dems.


38 posted on 10/31/2004 4:05:25 PM PST by norge
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To: Riverman94610

I do have qualms, but Schilling has first amendment freedom of speech as much as Bruce Springsteen and the rest, and it seems unfair for Schilling to be pressured not to appear when the management appears for Kerry.


39 posted on 10/31/2004 5:04:55 PM PST by Unam Sanctam
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To: MassRepublicanFlyersFan
I just saw Epstein on TV ridicule President Bush and endorse Kerry.

What did he say exactly about President Bush? Geesh, I lost all respect for Epstein once I saw him on that stage Sunday with Kerry in NH... :(

40 posted on 10/31/2004 10:31:38 PM PST by nutmeg (NEVER TRUST LIBERALS WITH OUR NATIONAL SECURITY -- Bush/Cheney 2004)
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To: NYCVirago
While I appreciate his pro-America, pro-military, pro-Bush stances, he gets on my last nerve with the other stuff that comes out of his mouth, like him trashing the Yankees. Hey Curt, it's not your place to decide who a good Yankee is, and a bad Yankee is. Just enjoy your WS title and stop the trash-talk!

But I'm guessing you thought it was OK for Gary Sheffield to trash the Red Sox?

If you think Schill bad-mouthed the Yankees, you haven't heard me. I can give him a run for his money. ;-)
41 posted on 11/01/2004 6:25:23 AM PST by kellynch (Whining about income inequality is a cop-out. -- Walter E. Williams)
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To: MassRepublicanFlyersFan
Check this crappola out:
"When we were down three games in the playoffs against the New York Yankees, a lot of fair-weather fans were ready to throw in the towel -- but not John Kerry,"

Bull!!!

sKerry thought that Sox fans were delusional!

42 posted on 11/01/2004 7:03:24 AM PST by bikepacker67
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To: NYCVirago
While I appreciate his pro-America, pro-military, pro-Bush stances, he gets on my last nerve with the other stuff that comes out of his mouth, like him trashing the Yankees. Hey Curt, it's not your place to decide who a good Yankee is, and a bad Yankee is. Just enjoy your WS title and stop the trash-talk!

C'mon NYCV, admit it... That Arod play WAS Kerry-League!

43 posted on 11/01/2004 7:05:08 AM PST by bikepacker67
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To: kellynch
But I'm guessing you thought it was OK for Gary Sheffield to trash the Red Sox?

Sheffield practically gave the Red Sox a hug in his comments compared to Schilling. Besides, Curt just won the World Series, and he's still bashing the Yankees. Did he ever hear of winning with class?

If you think Schill bad-mouthed the Yankees, you haven't heard me. I can give him a run for his money. ;-)

Jealousy causes all sorts of anguish and hatred, I know. I think it's hilarious that even in the Red Sox franchise's finest hour, their fans and players still spend more time trashing the Yankees, than celebrating their victory! ;)

44 posted on 11/01/2004 11:22:04 AM PST by NYCVirago
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To: bikepacker67
C'mon NYCV, admit it... That Arod play WAS Kerry-League!

What I find amusing is that Arroyo, the person actually involved in the play, never bashed A-Rod personally about it, but Curt Schilling did. I wouldn't have had a problem if Arroyo called A-Rod out for it, but Schilling needs to MYOB and keep his mouth shut.

45 posted on 11/01/2004 11:23:37 AM PST by NYCVirago
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To: bikepacker67
Bull!!! sKerry thought that Sox fans were delusional!

Like you, I don't believe Kerry for a minute. What a joke he is.

46 posted on 11/01/2004 11:24:30 AM PST by NYCVirago
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To: surrey
Now I know that part of Maine leans left but I was truly horrified by NH.

No kidding. I am in the Lebanon area...there are Kerry supporters ALL OVER the place today. I played "innocent", and stopped to talk with some of them. I told them that I had just returned from Tennessee (BAD, BAD mistake), and that I had never seen a "live" democrat before. I was curious what motivated them to support Kerry. Bottom line: these people are as dumb as a bag of rocks. G-d help us if they get control of the government.

47 posted on 11/01/2004 11:30:38 AM PST by who knows what evil? (If arrogance was beauty, New England women would be supermodels!)
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To: surrey
I always heard that southern NH is full of liberals who escaped from MA after they made such a mess of it -- a common liberal ploy (now they're working on making NH what they escaped).

I'm in South Boston, and there are no signs at all (save one pretty inconspicuous Kerry sign at the Teamsters local). Even our House rep (Lynch, D.-MA) doesn't have a sign at his house, and his only two bumper stickers say "Lynch."

Kerry made an impromptu visit to a Southie "reunion" function a month or so ago (he was at a fundraiser upstairs) and was so roundly booed, he turned tail and left.

Someone posted earlier that he had seen a MA poll in with Kerry 55 to Bush 47 or 48, IIRC.

48 posted on 11/01/2004 11:32:14 AM PST by maryz
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To: surrey
Now I know that part of Maine leans left but I was truly horrified by NH.

No kidding. I am in the Lebanon area...there are Kerry supporters ALL OVER the place today. I played "innocent", and stopped to talk with some of them. I told them that I had just returned from Tennessee (BAD, BAD mistake), and that I had never seen a "live" democrat before. I was curious what motivated them to support Kerry. Bottom line: these people are as dumb as a bag of rocks. G-d help us if they get control of the government.

49 posted on 11/01/2004 11:32:23 AM PST by who knows what evil? (If arrogance was beauty, New England women would be supermodels!)
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To: NYCVirago
Besides, Curt just won the World Series, and he's still bashing the Yankees. Did he ever hear of winning with class? ... Jealousy causes all sorts of anguish and hatred, I know. I think it's hilarious that even in the Red Sox franchise's finest hour, their fans and players still spend more time trashing the Yankees, than celebrating their victory! ;)

For the record, I am not jealous of the Yankees. Nor am I envious. Yankee-hating is a long-standing North American tradition and, traditionalist that I am, I am doing my utmost to uphold this tradition. I first learned to hate the Yankees in the mid-60s, when they stunk. How can one be jealous of a team that stinks?
50 posted on 11/02/2004 2:01:07 PM PST by kellynch (Whining about income inequality is a cop-out. -- Walter E. Williams)
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