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HEINLEIN Traveled On Many Levels
Philadelphia Inquirer (via philly.com) ^ | October 31, 2004 | Marc Schogol

Posted on 10/31/2004 8:57:04 PM PST by Lancey Howard

Reviewed by Marc Schogol

Glory Road By Robert A. Heinlein

If it weren't for 'Stranger in a Strange Land', Robert A. Heinlein probably would have been known only by science fiction buffs.

But with its out-of-this-world motifs, including a mind-melding, mind-bending communal lifestyle where everything - everything! - was free and shared, 1961's 'Stranger in a Strange Land' made Heinlein a Sixties counterculture icon.

The irony, as anyone familiar with Heinlein and his other works would have known, was that the late science fiction master's political and philosophical bent was very libertarian/anti-egalitarian. Like Jack Kerouac, who was never comfortable with his reputation as the spiritual father of the hippies, Heinlein (1907-1988) was not, and never wanted to be, a guru to the Woodstock generation.

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Originally published two years after 'Stranger', it ('Glory Road') has been considered a lightweight effort by many science fiction aficionados. But others loved it then and have found themselves enjoying periodic rereadings since.

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1 posted on 10/31/2004 8:57:05 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: All

I know there are some Heinlein fans around here, so when I read this review of 'Glory Road' (re-issue) in today's Inquirer I figured I'd post it for those who may be interested.


2 posted on 10/31/2004 8:59:16 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: Lancey Howard

Dad, I'd like to get a spacesuit.

Well you know how to work. Get a job down the corner pumping gas and in three months you'll be able to buy your own.

Thanks, Pops


3 posted on 10/31/2004 9:00:14 PM PST by bucephalus (Have Deployable Military Force Will Travel)
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To: Lancey Howard

By the way, 'Stranger' was the only Heinlein book (and I read them all) that I couldn't finish. Hated it.


4 posted on 10/31/2004 9:00:19 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: Lancey Howard

"But with its out-of-this-world motifs, including a mind-melding, mind-bending communal lifestyle where everything - everything! - was free and shared,"

Not entirely correct - nothing was free. But michael valentine and his followers had figured out an easy way to make money and had a lot of it just lying around to use whenever they chose.

Also, the book was also quite anti-UN in nature. It was only a hippie type book for those who weren't paying attention to the main points.


5 posted on 10/31/2004 9:01:30 PM PST by flashbunny (Every thought that enters my head requires its own vanity thread.)
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To: Lancey Howard

Supposedly, "Stranger " was a competition or bet between L Ron Hubbard and Heinlein over who could start a religion. Or maybe it was just Heinlein's take on the 70s foolishness.


6 posted on 10/31/2004 9:02:06 PM PST by ikka
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To: Lancey Howard
Stranger was the beginning of the end for RAH, imo. The 1950s were his peak. ....too many great works to mention.
7 posted on 10/31/2004 9:02:18 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: Lancey Howard

Did you read the original or the re-released unabridged version?

The editors originally made him cut out some of the more 'racy' parts in order to release the book.


8 posted on 10/31/2004 9:02:45 PM PST by flashbunny (Every thought that enters my head requires its own vanity thread.)
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To: Lancey Howard
I liked his early stuff but his later works were quite feminine.
9 posted on 10/31/2004 9:03:01 PM PST by Mike Darancette (Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.)
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To: Lancey Howard
Glory Road was good fun.

Stranger was pretty weak, and the beginning of his turn to navel-gazing. I had to really push my way to the end. Talk talk talk. Like the preachiest of Ayn Rand.

Am on Double Star now, and Gods of Mars by ERB

10 posted on 10/31/2004 9:04:32 PM PST by Darkwolf377
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To: Lancey Howard
When Gordon returns to Earth after the interstellar quest and a scruffy, bearded poet calls him a "mercenary" for having served in Vietnam, Gordon says: " 'Well, not always... . Sometimes I fight for free. Like right now.' "

And with that, he slams the sneering poet into a wall.

Sounds like a must-read!

11 posted on 10/31/2004 9:05:07 PM PST by ikka
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To: Mike Darancette

They were all part of a whole. Read his first work.


12 posted on 10/31/2004 9:07:05 PM PST by narses (If you want ON or OFF my Catholic Ping List email me. + http://www.alamo-girl.com/)
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To: Lancey Howard

Well I cut my sci-fi teeth on Heinlein in the late 50's and early 60's - "Tunnel in the Sky" was my first- then I trod the "Glory Road" with 'Scar Gordon searching for Horned Ghosts and the Cold Water Gang- I've been on the road ever since


13 posted on 10/31/2004 9:08:34 PM PST by Armigerous
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To: Darkwolf377
Am on Double Star now

One of the very best. Heinlein was a thinker. The ending is pretty cool, and you wonder why you didn't realize it. And you are right - - Heinlein's best stuff was the so-called "juvenile" sci-fi. I read all of Heinlein's books in the '60s and I occasionaly enjoy re-reading them today. 'Door into Summer', 'Puppet Masters', and my personal favorite, 'Tunnel in the Sky'. Great, great stuff.

14 posted on 10/31/2004 9:09:04 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: flashbunny
A lot of Heinlein's work has been misinterpreted by those who do not read it carefully.
15 posted on 10/31/2004 9:10:43 PM PST by VietVet (I am old enough to know who I am and what I believe, and I 'm not inclined to apologize for any of)
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To: Darkwolf377

Grew up as a kid reading lots of SF...started reading it seriously when I was in 3rd grade...started reading Heinlein when I was in 5th grade...(mostly his future history stories)...was shaped by people like him and Asimov and John Campbell back at Analog....

But I always sort of prefered Moon Is a Harsh Mistress to Stranger....


16 posted on 10/31/2004 9:13:09 PM PST by Knitting A Conundrum (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing)
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To: Lancey Howard

I completely agree with your assessment. I disliked Heinlein's later works (exception being "Moon is a Harsh Mistress" but I reread the juveniles every couple years. "Tunnel in the Sky" was my very first science fiction novel.

Want to make a kid like science and math? Hand him Heinlein...


17 posted on 10/31/2004 9:13:18 PM PST by JenB
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To: ikka

I doubt both theses. The timing is wrong. L. Ron Hubbard had already started his Scientology movement when "Stranger" came out. And "Stranger" was published long before the 70's


19 posted on 10/31/2004 9:13:50 PM PST by VietVet (I am old enough to know who I am and what I believe, and I 'm not inclined to apologize for any of)
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To: Mike Darancette
I liked his early stuff but his later works were quite feminine.

There were one or two after 'Stranger' that were pretty good, but the success of 'Stranger' apparently made Heinlein think he had "progressed" into a writer for "adults". I'm glad he got a good twenty or so "juvenile" books under his belt first, because those are the books that made Heinlein great. 'Stranger' merely put him on the radar screen of the pompous, cultural-elite book reviewers.

20 posted on 10/31/2004 9:13:58 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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