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To: Petronski

Yes I understand. How did you FReepers survive the afternoon of Nov 2000 election? It must have been dismal. What a roller-coaster ride it's been so far today!!

Here's some better news from Kerry Spot (unless someone's blowing smoke).

WORD FROM OBI-WAN [11/02 05:54 PM]

Word from Obi-Wan Kenobi, longtime GOP operative:

What you're hearing about the unreliability of exit polls is accurate. They are focused on urban areas. The exit polls need to be conducted in person, and obviously the media, even with their combined resources, have to pick and choose which polling places to conduct those exit polls. They under-poll rural and suburban areas.
They also do not count early and absentee votes, which traditionally benefit Republicans.

In the 1990s, the CNN exit polls were considered so skewed and so bad that GOP campaign strategists regulary added at least two or three points to the Republican candidate's total.

He also noticed that the earlier garbage polls, with their 59-41 women/men breakdown, were equalized to the more likely proportional turnout, Bush would win several key states like Ohio in a rout.

Before anyone loses their optimism, wait until someone's reputation is on the line in making these calls on the swing states.


I would observe that blowing the call on Florida in 2000 didn't seem to hurt the networks' reputation too much.

I have also heard, on good authority, that one of the highest-ranking campaign folks on the Bush-Cheney campaign has said, "We will win Ohio. We will win Florida. And Pennsylvania is tied." Unfortunately, this person didn't provide numbers.

UPDATE: What my person said is similar to what Shannen Coffin says a White House source said: "Political operations there is very confident and completely dismissive of the early day numbers, citing the skewing of the sample that has been discussed here. Confident that Bush will win OH and FL, that he will roll in WVa (ten points?) and that Mel Martinez will carry Florida. Not someone who is given to bluster."

I wonder if it's the same person.


181 posted on 11/02/2004 3:13:47 PM PST by plushaye (President Bush - Four more years! Thanks Swifties and POWs for Truth.)
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To: plushaye
Drudge rang the alarm early leaking the VNS' data that was far closer than expected and Bush could still win if there was a big turnout down in Florida in the late afternoon and evening.

We were demoralized and outraged by the early call for Florida and *knew* the polls were not closed in the panhandle.

It really hit the fan when Gore retracted his concession and FR went into meltdown. We regrouped on the Yahoo chat backup and thus began the fight against "Sore Loserman", the "Get out of Cheney's house" cries and more.

I don't expect we'll see that tonight. I believe it'll go one way or the other and, for sanity and necessary clarity, I pray it does.

182 posted on 11/02/2004 3:18:34 PM PST by newzjunkey (Pray 4 America -- VIVA BUSH! // Keep Neighborhoods Safer -- NO on CA Prop 66.)
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