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One of the better colleges: Burt Prelutsky explains why founding fathers created elector system
WorldNetDaily.com ^ | Wednesday, November 3, 2004 | Burt Prelutsky

Posted on 11/03/2004 2:43:59 AM PST by JohnHuang2

Wednesday, November 3, 2004



One of the better colleges

Posted: November 3, 2004
1:00 a.m. Eastern

By Burt Prelutsky


© 2004 WorldNetDaily.com

Every four years, it seems, we all have to suffer through a season of incessant whining. No, I'm not referring to the usual complaints about the Olympic judges, but to the very existence of the Electoral College.

We live in a democracy – goes the whine – where every citizen's vote is supposed to be equal to everybody else's. So, what's with this elector business? What it is, is brilliant. Those gents in the knee britches who put our government together from scratch didn't disdain democracy, but most of them prized states' rights and, as they showed in creating the three separate branches of government, a system of checks and balances.

They didn't want a few hugely populated states to determine who'd be president. So, although the number of electors from each state is determined by population, the founding fathers realized that the only way it would work is if it were winner-take-all, with the winning candidate taking all of a state's electoral votes, no matter how large or small his victory margin. They didn't want anybody to be elected simply because he was able to run up massive pluralities in a few states – they sought to ensure that the president represented the entire country.

Thus, if Kerry, for instance, were able to carry New York, California and Illinois, by 2 million votes in each state, Bush could score an equal number of electoral votes by squeaking out the narrowest of victory margins in Maine, Alaska, Iowa, South Carolina, Tennessee, Oklahoma, South Dakota, Utah, West Virginia, Kansas, Kentucky, Missouri, Mississippi, Arizona and Arkansas. So, while Kerry might garner as much as 5 million more votes than Bush in those 18 state contests, it should be fairly obvious that Bush would have wider appeal across the entire nation than mere nose-counting might otherwise indicate.

Thus, a presidential candidate – be he Republican or Democrat – can capture the so-called popular vote without winning the election. You may not like it, especially if your candidate is on the losing end, but your argument isn't with the candidates or even the two parties, but with the founding fathers. And if I might make a suggestion: Forget it! They were a lot smarter than you are.

They weren't just smart, either – they were psychics. Why do I say that? Well, you may have already noticed that although the elections are held in early November, the inaugurations don't take place until mid-January. Why that two-month gap, except to allow Florida plenty of time to count and then re-count its ballots four or five times?




TOPICS: Editorial; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: electoralcollege

1 posted on 11/03/2004 2:43:59 AM PST by JohnHuang2
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To: JohnHuang2

bump


2 posted on 11/03/2004 2:48:04 AM PST by GeronL (Congratulations Bush on you re-election VICTORY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: JohnHuang2

Maybe the best simplest explanation I have seen.


3 posted on 11/03/2004 2:50:18 AM PST by Huck (I only type LOL when I am really LOL)
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To: JohnHuang2

Quite frankly, the founding fathers created our Government framework based on the successes of past world governance models with the knowledge learned from the failures as well. They knew what would succeed and what would cause failure.


5 posted on 11/03/2004 2:53:40 AM PST by kipita (Rebel – the proletariat response to Aristocracy and Exploitation.)
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To: JohnHuang2

The founding fathers did not invent the winner-take-all rules of the Electoral College. They simply said the president would be selected by electors chosen by the states. It was the states who came up with the winner-take-all scenarios.


6 posted on 11/03/2004 2:56:46 AM PST by Junior (FABRICATI DIEM, PVNC)
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To: Junior
This still is a good idea! The states, fortunately, understood that it was necessary for the election results to be clear cut. No and, ifs, or buts. Personally, my candidates have won, and lost, elections based on the Electoral votes, and I still think it is the best and fairest way to elect a President!
7 posted on 11/03/2004 3:06:14 AM PST by singfreedom ("Victory at all costs,.......for without victory there is no survival."--Churchill)
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To: Junior
This still is a good idea! The states, fortunately, understood that it was necessary for the election results to be clear cut. No and, ifs, or buts. Personally, my candidates have won, and lost, elections based on the Electoral votes, and I still think it is the best and fairest way to elect a President!
8 posted on 11/03/2004 3:07:06 AM PST by singfreedom ("Victory at all costs,.......for without victory there is no survival."--Churchill)
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To: JohnHuang2

My boss and I had a friendly argument yesterday about the EC. She thinks its unfair. I never convinced her otherwise. Sending her this article. Thanks for posting.


9 posted on 11/03/2004 3:09:41 AM PST by raisincane (Bush/Cheney and their MANDATE = US has spoken.)
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To: JohnHuang2

I don't suppose You bothered to post this over at DU?

(Nevermind they don't have enough collective mind to understand this)

Have a great day;)


10 posted on 11/03/2004 3:09:59 AM PST by ChefKeith (Life is GREAT with CoCo..........NASCAR...everything else is just a game!(Except War & Love))
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To: JohnHuang2

I don't suppose You bothered to post this over at DU?

(Nevermind they don't have enough collective mind to understand this)

Have a great day;)


11 posted on 11/03/2004 3:11:03 AM PST by ChefKeith (Life is GREAT with CoCo..........NASCAR...everything else is just a game!(Except War & Love))
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To: ChefKeith

Guess FR is getting busy


12 posted on 11/03/2004 3:12:00 AM PST by ChefKeith (Life is GREAT with CoCo..........NASCAR...everything else is just a game!(Except War & Love))
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To: ChefKeith

;-)


13 posted on 11/03/2004 3:15:27 AM PST by JohnHuang2
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To: raisincane

Welcome


14 posted on 11/03/2004 3:16:04 AM PST by JohnHuang2
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To: JohnHuang2
Those gents in the knee britches who put our government together from scratch didn't disdain democracy, but most of them prized states' rights and, as they showed in creating the three separate branches of government, a system of checks and balances.
They didn't? I'd say that is pure BS! Let's look at a few of their many words on this subject...

...democracies have ever been spectacles of turbulence and contention; have ever been found incompatible with personal security or the rights of property; and have in general been as short in their lives as they have been violent in their deaths. Madison, Number 10

...in a democracy the people meet and exercise the government in person; in a republic they assemble and administer it by their representatives and agents. A democracy, consequently, must be confined to a small spot. A republic may be extended over a large region. Madison, Number 14

It had been observed that a pure democracy if it were practicable would be the most perfect government. Experience had proved that no position is more false than this. The ancient democracies in which the people themselves deliberated never possessed one good feature of government. Their very character was tyranny; their figure deformity. Alexander Hamilton

Sounds like disdain to me! (if they were "the same thing" Madison wouldn't be using completely different words in #14) How can these people be so ignorant and get statements like this published? Who edits this balderdash?
Yet another writer who has no idea what he's saying and still expects people to listen to his "words of wisdom".

15 posted on 11/03/2004 3:20:11 AM PST by philman_36
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To: JohnHuang2

Time for brandy & a cigar.

Be back later;)


16 posted on 11/03/2004 3:21:33 AM PST by ChefKeith (Life is GREAT with CoCo..........NASCAR...everything else is just a game!(Except War & Love))
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To: ChefKeith

Heh ;-)


17 posted on 11/03/2004 3:24:43 AM PST by JohnHuang2
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To: Papatom

bttt - a republic if you can keep it


18 posted on 11/03/2004 3:28:08 AM PST by risk
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