Posted on 11/03/2004 8:24:39 AM PST by Always Right
It's interesting that neither Grant's autobiograpy, or any of his letters, or any biography of Grant mentions his employment as a slaver driver. How do you account for that? What was Blackerby's source for this?
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1. Vowing to fight for the CSA were the war about slavery.
2. Not freeing his slaves until forced by the 13th.
Seems that someone or another would have a decisive reference one way or another for either, but the real answer may just be lost to history. One thing is certain, Grant seems to have developed (strenghtened an existing?) distaste for the practice during his tenure in MO; to me that would point to some unpleasant firsthand experience.
Quoth the non-sequitur: "Squack! Tu quoque! Tu quoque!"
But in your heart you know I'm right.
That's because no lie is too big and no fib is too small if it supports the Lost Cause, and all the southron myths associated with it.
In my heart I know you're nuts.
Ah but being called nuts by you is like being called ugly by an orangutan.
Same source as the one which claimed Mrs. Grant had slaves long after she was legally able to do so?
If there was a whip at White Haven, its not been found. Maybe Julia kept it in her hoop skirt.
Pity. We could have CSI St. Louis fingerprint it and put the whole matter to rest.
Grant did order the destruction of the 18 slave cabins, which you disputed.
Grant was commander of the Army and part time Secretary of War in 1867, a time when White Haven was still owned by Frederick Dent. And yet he still took time out of his busy day to order the demolition of slave cabins?
Julia brought her "servants" to Vicksburg.
Same source as the one that claimed she brought her slave with her to Richmond?
Speaking from familial experience, no doubt.
I haven't been around for a couple days, but I see nothing's changed. He's still emulating liberals, and getting upset that others take notice. None of them can understand why the majority of Americans don't share their hatred.
Only a fool would think that's not a two-way street, especially given all the Lincoln idolatry we see on these threads.
And we should thank you and the other Lincoln Loathers for keeping things 'fair and balanced'?
It is interesting that you question Dr. Blackerby as an authority after having just invoked your own authority, Edward H. Sebesta, aka Mark Pitcavage, aka crawfish, and the Temple of Democracy, a hall of fame member of the Order of White Trash.
Wow. Grant's autobiography did not mention his having been a slave-driver. It probably did not mention his having run the most corrupt administration in the history of the nation either. Indeed, in his autobiography what does Grant say of the slaves at White Haven? (What slaves?) What does Grant say about the slaves that belonged to Julia Dent? (What slaves?) What does he say about the slave that belonged to U.S. Grant? (What slave?) What does Grant say about his own family refusing to attend his wedding to Julia Dent at White Haven? ("On the 22d of August, 1848, I was married to Miss Julia Dent, the lady of whom I have before spoken. We visited my parents and relations in Ohio, and, at the end of my leave, proceeded to my post at Sackett's Harbor, New York.")
What does Grant say he was doing?
In the late summer of 1854 I rejoined my family, to find in it a son whom I had never seen, born while I was on the Isthmus of Panama. I was now to commence, at the age of thirty-two, a new struggle for our support. My wife had a farm near St. Louis, to which we went, but I had no means to stock it. A house had to be built also. I worked very hard, never losing a day because of bad weather, and accomplished the object in a moderate way. If nothing else could be done I would load a cord of wood on a wagon and take it to the city for sale. I managed to keep along very well until 1858, when I was attacked by fever and ague. I had suffered very severely and for a long time from this disease, while a boy in Ohio. It lasted now over a year, and, while it did not keep me in the house, it did interfere greatly with the amount of work I was able to perform. In the fall of 1858 I sold out my stock, crops and farming utensils at auction, and gave up farming.
And just how full of crap is all that?
Gee, did Grant forget to mention Julia's slaves that went to the farm?
As opposed to Lincoln -- unfair and unbalanced.
Damn, boy. Only 7 words in that post. Does your hand cramp up when you type such short entries?
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