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The Bush win is even stronger than it looks

Posted on 11/03/2004 5:21:48 PM PST by zamboni

The Bush win is even stronger than it looks

The pundits have made much of the point that this was pretty much a repeat of the 2000 election and that the election map looks almost identical to four years ago. In 2000, Bush won 30 states and this time he won 31.

There are only three states that are different from 2000. This time New Mexico and Iowa went for Bush and New Hampshire went away from Bush.

However, this misses the real strength of the Bush win. Bush did not just repeat what he did in 2000. He went way beyond that by dramatically increasing his percentage of the vote in many states across the nation. He did better than he did the last time in 32 states altogether, including many of the states that he did not carry. Seventeen of these states had a shift of five percentage points or more for Bush and four had a double digit shift for Bush.

The top ten states showing a significant shift for Bush are shown below, which include some of notable Democrat strongholds:

State

Bush % Shift

Alabama

12

Hawaii

10

Oklahoma

10

Tennessee

10

New Jersey

9

Connecticut

8

Rhode Island

8

Louisiana

7

New York

7

Here is the complete list:

State

2000 Bush Margin

2004 Bush Margin

Margin Change

Alabama

14

26

12

Alaska

31

27

-4

Arizona

6

11

5

Arkansas

5

9

4

California

-11

-11

0

Colorado

9

7

-2

Connecticut

-18

-10

8

Delaware

-13

-7

6

District of Columbia

-76

-81

-5

Florida

0

5

5

Georgia

12

18

6

Hawaii

-19

-9

10

Idaho

39

38

-1

Illinois

-12

-10

2

Indiana

16

21

5

Iowa

-1

1

2

Kansas

21

25

4

Kentucky

16

20

4

Louisiana

8

15

7

Maine

-5

-8

-3

Maryland

-16

-13

3

Massachusetts

-27

-25

2

Michigan

-5

-3

2

Minnesota

-2

-3

-1

Mississippi

17

20

3

Missouri

3

8

5

Montana

25

20

-5

Nebraska

29

35

6

Nevada

4

3

-1

New Hampshire

1

-1

-2

New Jersey

-16

-7

9

New Mexico

0

1

1

New York

-25

-18

7

North Carolina

13

12

-1

North Dakota

28

27

-1

Ohio

4

2

-2

Oklahoma

22

32

10

Oregon

0

-4

-4

Pennsylvania

-5

-2

3

Rhode Island

-29

-21

8

South Carolina

16

17

1

South Dakota

22

21

-1

Tennessee

4

14

10

Texas

21

23

2

Utah

41

44

3

Vermont

-10

-20

-10

Virginia

8

9

1

Washington

-5

-7

-2

West Virginia

6

13

7

Wisconsin

0

-1

-1

Wyoming

40

40

0



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KEYWORDS: bushvote; gwb2004
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1 posted on 11/03/2004 5:21:48 PM PST by zamboni
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To: zamboni

BUMP!


2 posted on 11/03/2004 5:23:53 PM PST by Donna Lee Nardo
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To: zamboni
Pennsylvania -2...and there are many thousands of absentee ballots which are not due back until November 10 - because they were mailed out late - Pennsylvania may not be over yet......
3 posted on 11/03/2004 5:28:02 PM PST by Intolerant in NJ
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117 point improvement. awesome. thanks.


4 posted on 11/03/2004 5:31:48 PM PST by Mercat
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To: zamboni

Fantastic information, thanks so much.


5 posted on 11/03/2004 5:33:42 PM PST by Still German Shepherd (Call them what they are: liberals/democrats are socialists and communists. Period.)
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To: zamboni

This was a massive win, the highest amount of votes ever, yet they are still spinning it as soooooo CLOSE! Liars never can tell the truth.


6 posted on 11/03/2004 5:35:33 PM PST by ladyinred (Congratulations President Bush! Four more years!)
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To: Intolerant in NJ

Go PA!!


7 posted on 11/03/2004 5:36:29 PM PST by falpro
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To: Donna Lee Nardo

Frankly, we won Wisconsin, I'm sure the lose is in the "margin of fraud". Sooooo glad it didn't matter.
In 08 I'll be voting from NC.


8 posted on 11/03/2004 5:40:14 PM PST by Kozak (Anti Shahada: " There is no God named Allah, and Muhammed is his False Prophet")
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To: Intolerant in NJ

I predicted Bush would win PA, it was obvious how paniced Kerry was Gov. Rendell's offhand statement that the overseas absentees "wouldn't matter", until he reassured they would all be counted on Sean Hanity. Plus PA drifted between Kerry and Bush since the GOP Convention. PA is ours, and discounting fraud, CA would've been even closer.


9 posted on 11/03/2004 5:41:58 PM PST by eagle11 (There are TWO Americas....and the liberal one is losing ground.)
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To: zamboni

Been listening all day how the country is so evenly and tragically divided. One needs only to look at the county-by-county electoral map to see that voters have de-bunked that B.S. Also note ALL ELEVEN definition of marriage initiatives passed with HUGE majorities.


10 posted on 11/03/2004 5:42:21 PM PST by DCH838 ("A man that hath a sword by his side, shall have least occasion to make use of it")
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To: Intolerant in NJ

Some are saying the same re:Colorado enate race, Coors vs. Salazar. 5% of Precincts not counted yet. Wouldn't it be a hoot if both reversed in our favor? One can only dream...


11 posted on 11/03/2004 5:42:52 PM PST by donozark (UMA PEMMARAJU HAS HER EYE(S) ON ME!)
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To: zamboni

Bookmark bump


12 posted on 11/03/2004 5:51:04 PM PST by SeeRushToldU_So (Dig deep to sink the creep sKerry.)
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To: eagle11
PA is ours...hope it works out that way, but it's hard to get beyond the outright fraud that takes thousands of votes in Philly - daughter was listening to local talk show on way to school tonight and they were being inundated with calls about the crookedness in Phiully yesterday - one poll worker was wearing a badge that said "Remember the Troops" - she was harrassed for forty five minutes by some "independent" monitor who claimed this was "intimidating" the voters (finally allowed to keep the badge by a poll judge) - as though honoring our troops is something that bothers 'rat voters, I guess - very difficult to overcome such chicanery.......
13 posted on 11/03/2004 5:51:41 PM PST by Intolerant in NJ
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To: zamboni

Wow!! We'll never hear this from the MSM!!!


14 posted on 11/03/2004 5:53:43 PM PST by shield (The Greatest Scientific Discoveries of the Century Reveal God!!!! by Dr. H. Ross, Astrophysicist)
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To: Mercat

Those of us older guys have a better understanding of political trends than the younger ones. The trend toward conservatism in this country began with Barry Goldwater (on a national level). A few of us who grew up under FDR could see from the beginning that policies put in place under FDR would eventually lead us down a parallel path with socialism and communism and domination of the population by a select few who could enrich themselves at our expense. Goldwater got the conservative message out to a wide audience. Although he did not succeed in his quest for the presidency, the seed was planted in many young minds and we are now seeing the results of his vision. Things have not been reversed but we have certainly slowed socialistic progress. Hopefully some day we will get back to a point where an individual can determine his own fate.


15 posted on 11/03/2004 5:56:13 PM PST by KnutCase (When GWB won, we all won!)
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To: zamboni

California shows no improvement, but remember that in 2000 Bush spent millions trying to win the state.


16 posted on 11/03/2004 6:02:32 PM PST by Plutarch
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To: DCH838
This says it all. The pundits are most likely saying this to prevent all the koolaide drinkers from drinking too deep!


17 posted on 11/03/2004 6:05:29 PM PST by BushCountry (http://www.cafepress.com/bushcountry2004 <-- Want to annoy a liberal?)
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To: Plutarch
Actually, CA went from 41.7% for GWB to 44.3% thus far, and we don't have the hundreds of thousands of absentee ballots counted, yet. Those trend more in favor of GWB.

Go here

18 posted on 11/03/2004 6:07:33 PM PST by NetSurfer (All your provisional ballots are belong to us.)
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To: zamboni

I think it exposes the fraud. I don't know if I can explain it and I certainly can't with numbers but this is my pea brain concept of what happened in 2000 and 2001. In 2000, the voters for the Dems were basically complacent, they were not voting to re-elect and I do believe that most people do not get into the issues nor the politics surrounding a candidate. Thus, the low turn-out for most elections. Those of us that hated Clinton, the damage he and Hillary did, the damage to the White House and the Office of the President were eager to vote for our man.

That being said, I reflect on the Nixon 'win' that became Kennedy's. The Republicans in 2000 knew they had to work hard and began the push to get the base vote out. They were successful at accomplishing that which the Dems did not expect and then they fought--which the Dems really did not expect.

This year, the Republicans continued to work to get the base out plus more, but the Dems discovering that their 2000 fraud could no longer guarantee a win because the Republicans did not back down the Dems, determined to win at all cost, needed to be even more aggressive. This time through legal means and against our voting system and "one's right to have their vote counted" conveniently ignoring right to have their legal vote counted.

The Dems fraudulent ways were stopped by the lawyers prior to the election. The Republican win was undeniable even with the illegal voting that we all know took place.

The Dems fraud is still in the count but they have been exposed--hopefully we do not go back to complacency. I also think this should quiet the idea that Bush stole the election in 2000.


19 posted on 11/03/2004 6:14:51 PM PST by Snoopers-868th (The Emporer Has No Clothes (Kerry))
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To: zamboni

Kerry was wise to stand down re: Ohio. In 2000 Gore wrongly chose to besmirk an entire battleground state, setting a dangerous precedent of judicial activism and partisan furor in what should be an election of voters. The result: Florida hasn't forgotten or forgiven those damn yankee lawyers and wasn't much of a battleground this year (or in 2002). You take a fairly evenly divided state, tell them they're all crooked or fools one year and then proceed ad nauseum to discredit their basic competence and intelligence, and come back again four years later to this "battleground" state and deploy 10,000 lawyers and international observers, and what do you expect?


20 posted on 11/03/2004 6:21:01 PM PST by kcar (theUNsucks.com)
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