Posted on 11/03/2004 5:46:46 PM PST by TapTheSource
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The US should come out strong against the ChiComs on this issue.
I hope they can solve that without bloodshed. Drawing lines in the sand and seeing how far you can push isn't too bright on China's part.
We're going to have to face China once and for all eventually. Sooner is better - like next year - before they modernize much more. No invasion, no air strikes, just ICBMs.
When Japan's carriers are completed, this activity will become more risky for the Chinese.
I have to agree -
If we keep showing our back to China - the situation will only get worse. And perhaps - it is already too late - It was bad enough under Clinton - but the policy is kept in force under President Bush - and Congress -
I just don't understand why President Bush can see clearly on some issues - but then turn around and harm this nation(along with our friends) with others -
Is it Rice? Is it Powell? Is it because our departments have become corrupt - ? I just heard someone suggest that Powell might want to go to the Defense Department in the second term - That would really be bad - considering all that he has done while in the State Dept.
Anyone for a Wal Mart - no matter the price -
Couldn't agree with you more. No matter who's to blame in the administration, the buck stops at Bush's desk. We need to start writing congress demanding that they put a stop to this madness.
Japan? Carriers? First time in 60 years? Since when are they building carriers?
I believe the inmates are running the asylum that is known as the US Dept. of State. Infiltrated by communists during the cold war years, and heavily populated by left leaning handwringers-Needs a good house cleaning.
I'd rather believe that then it's "money" behind the nonsense concerning China -
Because it's hard to think our people in government would speak of freedom for Iraq and then sacrifice Taiwan and Japan just to stay in power here in the USA -
And it's sad that today to make a good run for office - you need to have millions -
just my thoughts -
It is my understanding that there are a number of people in the state department who work against the policy of the president, and America's interests.
These people are not the ones speaking about freedom for Iraq. They are not good for America and our allies. They will still be there when the president has finished his 2cnd term.
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i forsee a time when Russia, Us and Japan will be allies in order to balance China. Although that might not be necessary Russia and India would probably be more inclinced for that kind of an alliance. Both have territory china infringed upon or wants. Kashmir and Sibir.
You might be right.
I think it would be smart on our part to treat Japan the same way as we treat Britain because they are in the same kind of geographic position as Britain.
I think one of the things that FDR mis-managed was our relationship with Japan prior to WW2. They were our allies previously, including WW1, and the Brits were the ones that taught them to build ships.
I'm hardly a fan of FDR, but he did allow US aerospace firms (they were called aircraft companies in those days) to transfer immense amounts of technology to Japan. The Japanese built an exact copy of our DC 3, which was cutting edge at the time. Most of their propellers were a copy/variant of the Hamilton Standard Props, again the technology transfered with his approval. There are many who post on this site who would endorse his actions all in the name of "free trade".
Umm,Japan is building aircraft capable ships,not out & out carriers.The Osumi & soon to be built destroyers(over 13,000 tonnes) will have a primary complement of ASW/surveillance choppers like the SH-60 & Mine warfare systems & troop transports like the MH-53.The JMSDF have shown no concrete plan to buy either the Harrier(which is getting old anyway) or sign up for the naval JSF.That would make these ships have the designation of 'helicopter carriers' which have the ability to deploy fixed aircraft,which are crucial for power projection.
OTOH,China is reportedly building 2 aircraft carrier,which can deploy systems like the Su-30MKK2 fighter bomber & vertically launched Moskit missiles-but no concrete details have ever emerged.By far,the only nation in Asia,which is committed to carriers is India,which will receive an upgraded Russian carrier in 2008 & it's own homebuilt carrier will be ready by 2012(built with Russian,French,Israeli & Italian help) & India has been operating carriers since the 1960s.South Korea too has plans for an 'aviation capable ship' ,but it remains to be seen whether this are more in league of the Japanese ships or real carriers.
The entire struggle with the EU giving China weapons technology is a gamble from the EU position to moderate American Technogical gains which even the UN has failed them (read EU) in achieving.
The only real threat to the US for the forseeable future is the alliance(s) France is building against us (Read US:) __)
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