OH yeah. Looks like America. < |:/~
Posted on 11/04/2004 12:00:56 AM PST by Simmy2.5
Washington -- San Francisco did not vote for President Bush, but the pictures of wedded gay and lesbian couples streaming from its City Hall last February may have helped return him to the White House.
Those pictures and a Massachusetts court decision to allow same-sex marriage proved to be, if not political poison for Democratic challenger John Kerry, not exactly a tonic, either.
The lesbian and gay community awoke Wednesday morning to a bitter landscape: Bush, who supports a constitutional ban on same-sex marriage, re-elected (with a fifth of the gay vote); four new Republican senators, including staunch social conservative Tom Coburn in Oklahoma; the prospect of conservatives filling potential Supreme Court vacancies; and to top it off, 11 state constitutional bans on same-sex marriage.
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Dilusion?
What does a political party expect when it seriously suggests that men should be able to marry other men? That people won't think they're stark raving bonkers?
Didn't hurt
We already have marriage equality. Everyone is free to marry someone of the opposite sex so long as they are not already married, they are unrelated and of legal age. Period.
DU's are saying it was the mass hate of gays that brought Bush to victory. I really don't think that was the reason. Both Oregon and Michigan had those initiatives on their ballots, and both states were lost to Bush. They don't realize that many DEMOCRATS don't agree with same-sex marriages just like Republicans.
OH yeah. Looks like America. < |:/~
It's amazing that these people will jump all over Bush for using a word like "crusade" or "evildoers" or "mission accomplished" because it might send the wrong signal to "The Arab Street".
Yet, they think they can plaster every paper in the world with pictures of two grooms kissing and don't expect any backlash whatsoever.
Somehow this seems like poetic justice....the San Francisco Liberal Establishment bears some responsibility in getting President Bush re elected.....funny, former Mayor Willie Brown didn't mention it on MSNBC with Chris Matthews last night!!
Am considering sending a thank you note to Gavin Newsom.
It's always about them over there, isn't it? Mass hatred of terrorists might have had something to do with Bush's victory.
"It's hard for me to say Goodridge tipped everything when these folks were making anti-gay law a centerpiece of their strategy since 1996," said Mary Bonauto, the lawyer for the Gay and Lesbian Advocates and Defenders who won the case."
"Bonauto said that by the time Goodridge was decided, 37 states already had "defense of marriage" statutes on the books, and a constitutional ban had already been introduced in Congress."
These guys, even after this loss, are clueless.
We feel strongly about marriage. We elect a legislature to make laws about it. We pass statutes instructing our legislature to make a law about it.
The liberals ignore the laws. They find a judge to bypass our will, our legislature, and our laws. Then they call us backward and racist in the bargain. They call us stupid fundies, who don't read anything but the Bible and have no understanding of the way "the world should be".
Then these social "elite" have the nerve to act surprised when we pull out the big guns, such as constitutional amendments and elect presidents who say they will remove these condescending snobs from the courts.
And they still don't understand.
Irony, thy name is Andrew Sullivan.
Did the issue energize the 4 million missing evangelical voters that Karl Rove was trying to reclaim from 2000?
Did President Bush win the popular vote by 3 million?
Was a marriage initiative on the Ohio ballot?
Yes
Yes
Yes
Yes
Yes, it did. Its a message to Republican elites to get behind popular initiatives. Americans are concerned our culture is getting too coarse. When Washington dithers, they will take action to clean it up.
The American people have sensed a deficiency and they are making the necessary corrections.
COUNT on it!
Keep it in your bedroom and off of Main St., and I will not have a problem with you. I DON'T hate gays.
I just don't want them in my face telling me I have to like what they do.
I suspect most straight people feel as I do.
This was an article published in my paper just before the election, and it got by me. Too late to post now - if it was current, I would have given it it's own post.
Mother Complains After Kids Get `Erotica' Candy At Church
By CANDACE J. SAMOLINSKI csamolinski@tampatrib.com
Published: Oct 26, 2004
NEW PORT RICHEY - A party in support of gay and lesbian groups left one mother with nothing to celebrate.
A carnival atmosphere took over Thys Road on Saturday afternoon outside Spirit of Life Metropolitan Community Church at the Pasco Pride Coalition's ``Stand Proud! A Celebration!'' event.
On the surface it looked like a typical church festival, but a closer look revealed drag queens performing and vendors selling items in support of gay pride.
Natalie Cundiff, 33, who lives on nearby Butte Avenue, says her nieces, ages 9 and 11, and six other neighborhood children got too close to the true meaning of the celebration. The children were at a friend's house and wandered to the festival without Cundiff's knowledge.
About 5 p.m. Saturday, Cundiff called the Pasco County Sheriff's Office to complain after the children returned home with packages of penis-shaped candy. Cundiff said they bought the mints for $2 a package. They also told stories of seeing bumper stickers with sexually charged phrases.
``The gayness didn't offend me. It was the fact that they were selling this kind of thing to children. Why didn't one of the adults shoo them away?,'' Cundiff asked Monday. ``A church is a place of worship. What kind of church passes out penis candy?''
Deputy Robert Wood interviewed the vendor who had the candy, but found no evidence of wrongdoing, said sheriff's spokesman Kevin Doll. The vendor told Wood the children stole the candy, but there wasn't evidence to make an arrest.
``Even if he had sold it to them, I don't know that there would have been anything illegal about that,'' Doll said. ``You can go into bakeries and buy things in the shape of sexual organs.''
This was the first high-profile event at the church. The Rev. Doreen Shambrook, who leads the 50-member congregation, said she also looked into Cundiff's complaint.
``These were pieces of candy, gay erotica, that were not on display. The vendor later recognized somebody had been under the table,'' she said. ``They're lucky they weren't arrested for shoplifting.''
Cundiff denied the children stole the mints. She also disputed Shambrook's statement that neighbors were notified this would be a gay-influenced festival.
Shambrook said she is saddened by the outcome.
``We did have children at the festival with their parents. We want to be a welcoming church that allows children to feel safe,'' she said.
Shambrook also said gay pride festivals are known for displays of self-expression.
``We did have drag queens performing, and it was advertised as such,'' she said. ``If they were uncomfortable, they should have stopped their kids from coming or accompanied their children and saw what was going on.''
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