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CNN -- Corrupt to the End
CNN Vote Results ^ | 11/5/04

Posted on 11/05/2004 6:56:07 AM PST by pabianice

IOWA Results

With 100% reporting

Bush: 745,970 50%

Kerry: 732,737 49%

"Too close to call"

(Excerpt) Read more at cnn.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Iowa
KEYWORDS: bushvictory; cnn; medialies; purplestates
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CNN - rushing toward oblivion

1 posted on 11/05/2004 6:56:07 AM PST by pabianice
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To: pabianice

Who?

What's "CNN"?


;)


2 posted on 11/05/2004 6:57:14 AM PST by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: pabianice
How many absentee and/or provisional ballots are outstanding?
3 posted on 11/05/2004 6:57:29 AM PST by atomicpossum (They pelted us with rocks and garbage.)
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To: pabianice

Communist News Network stays true to its name


4 posted on 11/05/2004 6:57:31 AM PST by austinaero
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To: pabianice

Just put out the white flag CNN, it's over!


5 posted on 11/05/2004 6:57:43 AM PST by tobyhill (The war on terrorism is not for the weak!)
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To: pabianice

A difference of over 15,000 votes. Doesn't sound like its "too close to call" to me. Iowa is BUSH COUNTRY!!!


6 posted on 11/05/2004 6:59:13 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: tobyhill

Someone at CNN needs to go back to math class!

GAWD, talk about holding out hope.


7 posted on 11/05/2004 6:59:15 AM PST by austinaero
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To: pabianice

Now they're "processing results"


8 posted on 11/05/2004 6:59:23 AM PST by SlowBoat407 ("Don't bother giving me liberty: I'll take it for myself, thanks.")
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To: pabianice
Does CNN have Wisconsin and New Hampshire too close to call as well?

Do I even have to ask.
9 posted on 11/05/2004 6:59:50 AM PST by snarkytart
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To: austinaero

LOL. Ed Bradley needs to teach CNN math.


10 posted on 11/05/2004 7:00:41 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: pabianice

HAs CNN sent any lawyers there yet?


11 posted on 11/05/2004 7:01:42 AM PST by marktuoni
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To: pabianice

I hate to point this out to you... but FoxNews.com also hasn't called the state for Bush yet.


12 posted on 11/05/2004 7:01:42 AM PST by bolobaby
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To: pabianice
Similar result at www.electoral-vote.com

there, the "objective votemaster" still shows "barely
Bush" and "barely Kerry" even after the states in
question have decided.

( not that it really matters all that much .. )

and further down on the page he displays the
county-by-county map - and laments that

"From looking at the map, you wouldn't know that
almost half the population voted for Kerry."

these are ALMOST THE SAME SENTIMENTS from the other
GREAT article posted yesterday at FR:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1270638/posts

"They're very 1950's," she said of Midwesterners. "When I go back there, I feel I'm in a time warp."

Dr. Joseph acknowledged that such attitudes could feed into the perception that New Yorkers are cultural elitists, but he didn't apologize for it.

"People who are more competitive and proficient at what they do tend to gravitate toward cities," he said."
13 posted on 11/05/2004 7:02:23 AM PST by the_gospel_of_thomas (Know your Enemy and Know yourself)
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To: pabianice
It's all political here in IA. The dem governor's secretary of state playing games.

Iowa's secretary of state faces the media spotlight

The Democrat has been mentioned as a possible candidate for the governorship.

By COLLEEN KRANTZ
REGISTER STAFF WRITER
November 5, 2004


GARY FANDEL/THE REGISTER

On the spot: Iowa Secretary of State Chet Culver has fielded the bulk of questions about when it will be clear whether President Bush or Sen. John Kerry prevailed in Iowa.


 

Chet Culver

PARTY: Democrat.

AGE: 38.

EDUCATION: Master's degree, teaching, Drake University, 1994; bachelor's degree, political science, Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University, 1988.

EXPERIENCE: Secretary of state since 1999. Previously: History and government teacher at Hoover High School in Des Moines, coach of sophomore football; investigator in the consumer protection and environmental division of the Iowa attorney general's office; worked on political campaigns of Bonnie Campbell and Michael Dukakis.

FAMILY: Wife, Mariclare Thinnes Culver; two children.

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Last state standing

Chet Culver pushes through the glass secretary of state door bearing his full name, "Chester J. Culver," and steps behind a podium laden with microphones.

The reporters and camera crews clustered about him in the state's Lucas Building push closer, ready for an update on Iowa's election results.

The blond-haired, blue-eyed elections chief, the son of a former U.S. senator, has gotten plenty of attention this week. Iowa is the only state not shaded red or blue on the electoral map, and Democrat Culver has fielded the bulk of questions about when it will be clear whether President Bush or Sen. John Kerry prevailed in Iowa.

Iowa history indicates that Bush's 14,000-vote lead will hold up when the total is counted, but Culver points out that up to 50,000 absentee ballots that were requested by Iowans were unreturned by Election Day and could have been mailed just before. Any ballots postmarked by Monday, along with provisional ballots, should be counted by next week.

Does all this attention help or hinder the political future of a man seen as one of the possible candidates for governor for 2006?

"You know, one of the rules is the face time never hurts you unless it's a scandal, which I don't think we have here," said state Sen. Jeff Lamberti, an Ankeny Republican. "I don't think it has tremendously helped him, but I don't believe it has hurt in any way, either."

Culver, in his second term as Iowa's secretary of state, has a fund-raising operation in place should he decide to run for governor or some other office. He was reluctant to talk specifics during an interview before his Wednesday press conference regarding the election, but acknowledged: "I have absolutely not ruled out anything in terms of future offices."

Lamberti and Rep. Christopher Rants both have concerns about how the secretary of state's office has handled some election-related issues under Culver's leadership, while other officials praise his efforts since taking office in 1999.

"I think that Mr. Culver has made some political decisions in the secretary of state's office that are going to raise some eyebrows or cause some difficulties down the road," said Rants, a Republican from Sioux City.

Rants points to the discussion in the week before this year's election about counting votes cast by Iowans in the wrong precinct but correct county. Iowa Attorney General Tom Miller had provided Culver with the opinion that they should count, which prompted Republicans to sue and some county auditors to express concerns.

Miller and Culver backed off the proposed change following federal court decisions elsewhere.

Lamberti had asked for Culver's resignation in the same week, accusing him of illegally accepting registration forms from voters who failed to check a box confirming U.S. citizenship.

Culver, 38, earlier dismissed such allegations as political maneuvering and said his staff is dedicated to making sure every eligible vote is counted.

He reiterated that theme while standing before reporters this week in a gray suit, red tie and blue shirt. He appeared unruffled as one reporter asked why a state that has held itself up as having a model election system is so slow to produce complete election results.

"We have to certainly be very patient, to make sure every vote is counted and counted accurately," he explained.

Anne Pedersen, the Lee County auditor who ran unsuccessfully for secretary of state in 1994 against then-state Sen. Paul Pate, said much has been accomplished by the office under Culver.

"Isn't it true that Iowa has one of the highest percentages of registered voters? That happened under Chet," said Pedersen, a Democrat.

"With the Help America Vote Act, he was very prominent in that and is the reason why I feel Iowa has always been one of the most progressive states in elections and how they are run," she said.

The 2002 Help America Vote Act was designed to address some of the problems that arose during the 2000 presidential election.

"There's no doubt he took the initiative to try to get Iowa ahead of the game as far as the new federal legislation goes," said Van Buren County Auditor Jon Finney, whose county - the last in Iowa that had been counting by hand - got new counting machines for this election with Culver's help.

As with any state officeholder, though, Finney said, there "are things you enjoy and things you don't enjoy."

The secretary of state position has tended to be used as a stepping stone in politics.

Pate, Culver's predecessor, made an unsuccessful bid for the Republican nomination for governor. He now is mayor of Cedar Rapids. Democrat Elaine Baxter, secretary of state before that, made several unsuccessful bids for a congressional seat.

"I certainly feel like he's looking at and will run for a higher office at some point in his future," Pedersen said. "But that's OK, because you've got to polish them somewhere, don't you?"

 


14 posted on 11/05/2004 7:02:50 AM PST by Rightone
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To: goldstategop

http://www.press-citizen.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20041105/NEWS01/411050321/1079


15 posted on 11/05/2004 7:04:17 AM PST by kabar
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To: pabianice

Question, even if Kerry has conceded and W has 272 EV, Do the absentee ballots and overseas one still count and if they do can battleground states that went red go blue and vice vrsa?

eg Can Wisconsin after counting the extra votes end up in Bush's collumsn or Pensylvania ?

I need to know..I have a $200 bet that W would gain over 305 EV.

As it stands, i need 33 more EV's


16 posted on 11/05/2004 7:05:25 AM PST by bubman
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To: the_gospel_of_thomas

"People who are more competitive and proficient at what they do tend to gravitate toward cities," he said."

Translation: "People who are more rat-like and devour their young gravitate toward cities."


17 posted on 11/05/2004 7:05:46 AM PST by Socratic (More matters than oneself.)
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To: Socratic

Shame on CNN


18 posted on 11/05/2004 7:09:36 AM PST by Cheryllynn
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To: pabianice

Isn't CNN owned by the Weekly World News...you know Bat Boy and the 1500 pound lady?


19 posted on 11/05/2004 7:10:18 AM PST by Dallas59 ("A weak peace is worse than war" - Tacitcus)
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To: pabianice

This poll is in the same boat as CNN itself:

the USS IRRELEVANT.


20 posted on 11/05/2004 7:24:32 AM PST by hsrazorback1 (G'night, John-Boy.)
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