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Helen Thomas: Answers To Iraq Questions
Boston Channel ^ | November 5, 2004 | Helen Thomas

Posted on 11/05/2004 7:46:10 AM PST by O.C. - Old Cracker

There is new information on two abiding mysteries about the Iraq war: How many Iraqis have been killed? and, Why did President George W. Bush order a U.S. attack on Iraq in the first place?

Last week, American and Iraqi researchers -- writing in the respected British medical journal, The Lancet -- estimated that the Iraqi death toll associated with the invasion and occupation of Iraq was about 100,000 "and may be much higher."

Most of them were women and children, victims of bombs or bullets from helicopter gunships.

The estimates reported in Lancet were made by comparing the Iraqi death rate in the 15 months before the invasion with the death rate during the 18 months after the attack.

The scientists who wrote the report acknowledged that their data is of "limited precision" because it was based on household interviews in some 33 neighborhoods across the country. More household surveys would have improved the accuracy of their conclusions, the authors said, but it would have required "enormous risk" to the courageous teams of interviewers.

Early on, Gen. Tommy Franks, former chief of the U.S. Central Command, said "we don't do body counts."

Actually, the U.S. military stopped publicizing enemy body counts during the first Gulf War in 1991. The Pentagon decided in the aftermath of the Vietnam War that body counts were hurtful to the military's public relations and should be kept under wraps.

Today, Pentagon officials can tell you the exact number of American casualties: 1,122 dead and 8,287 wounded, so far. But they say they don't track Iraqi deaths, civilian or military.

Defense Department spokesman James Turner said there is no way to validate the estimates of civilian casualties by the Defense Department or any other organization.

"This conflict has been prosecuted in the most precise fashion of any conflict in the history of modern warfare," he added. "The loss of any innocent lives is a tragedy, something Iraqi security forces and the multi-national force painstakingly work to avoid."

Bush apparently invested in the fantasy that invading Iraq would be a cakewalk. Evangelist Pat Robertson, founder of the U.S. Christian Coalition, disclosed that when he warned the president about the need to prepare Americans for the prospect of casualties in Iraq, Bush responded, "We're not going to have any casualties."

I wonder what planet the president has been living on to imagine he could pull off a military blitz without casualties.

White House aides jumped in with strong denials that Bush had made such a statement. Presidential adviser Karen Hughes said Robertson must have "either misunderstood, misheard or been confused about the conversation."

The president, however, never denied it publicly, apparently not wanting to tangle with Robertson, who has acknowledged "deep misgivings about the war."

Later, Robertson issued a two-paragraph statement confirming his support for Bush, saying, "He's a great leader and I am 100 percent in favor of his reelection." He did not retract his statement about Bush's no-casualties comment.

There are also new insights into Bush's reasons for invading Iraq.

Mickey Herskowitz, a prolific book author and the Bush family's authorized biographer, says Bush was "thinking about invading Iraq in 1999. It was on his mind."

How does Herskowitz know that? It turns out that he had been hired by Bush -- then governor of Texas -- to ghostwrite his autobiography, ultimately titled "A Charge to Keep: My Journey to the White House."

Herskowitz was given unimpeded access to Bush, and the two men met approximately 20 times so Bush could share his thoughts, according to independent journalist Russ Baker, who interviewed Herskowitz.

During one of their conversations, Herskowitz said, Bush told him that "one of the keys to being seen as a great leader is to be seen as a commander-in-chief."

He said Bush's circle of advisers had a fixation on the political capital that former British Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher collected from the Falklands war in 1982.

"They were just absolutely blown away, just enthralled by the scenes of the troops coming back, of the boats, people throwing flowers at (Thatcher) and her getting those standing ovations in Parliament in making these magnificent speeches."

Herskowitz, who also was the authorized biographer of the president's grandfather, Prescott Bush, said George W. Bush's beliefs about Iraq were based in part on the concept: "Start a small war, pick a country where there is justification you can jump on, go ahead and invade. If successful, you'll be hero at home."

Bush aides ended up canceling the Herskowitz book project because the draft didn't glow enough about their boss. Hughes herself ended up rewriting it.

The idea that we would go to war to boost a president's political fortunes is obscene.

Now that the election is over and the commander-in-chief won, he can return to the business of war. The administration is planning a massive assault on the city of Fallujah, Iraq. But we will never know the death toll for Iraqi civilians who live there.

(Helen Thomas can be reached at the e-mail address hthomas@hearstdc.com).


TOPICS: Editorial; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: gorgon; helenthomas; medusa; seahag; troll
Where to start? This woman is a deluxe nutburger. Helen tries, unsuccessfully, to make it sound as though Dubya's grandfather said the following.

Herskowitz, who also was the authorized biographer of the president's grandfather, Prescott Bush, said George W. Bush's beliefs about Iraq were based in part on the concept: "Start a small war, pick a country where there is justification you can jump on, go ahead and invade. If successful, you'll be hero at home."

The evil, lying witch.

1 posted on 11/05/2004 7:46:12 AM PST by O.C. - Old Cracker
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To: O.C. - Old Cracker

Well, at least she's not bitter.


2 posted on 11/05/2004 7:46:49 AM PST by Question Liberal Authority (THANK YOU, FREEPERS for re-electing President George W. Bush!)
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To: O.C. - Old Cracker
"This woman is a deluxe nutburger."

With fries.

3 posted on 11/05/2004 7:47:26 AM PST by anniegetyourgun
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To: O.C. - Old Cracker

I meant flies....


4 posted on 11/05/2004 7:48:32 AM PST by anniegetyourgun
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To: O.C. - Old Cracker

Gee whiz, you'd think she could run a comb through her hair.


5 posted on 11/05/2004 7:48:43 AM PST by Jeff Chandler (Thank you Rush Limbaugh-godfather of the New Media.)
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To: O.C. - Old Cracker

Last night on Hannity and Colmes Pat Robertson said Bush never said there would be no casualties. Helen, go to the nearest cemetary and demand burial. You're dead and in denial.


6 posted on 11/05/2004 7:48:55 AM PST by Russ
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To: O.C. - Old Cracker
Helen Thomas and her Alzheimer's...frankly I can't believe she knows what end is talking.
7 posted on 11/05/2004 7:48:56 AM PST by Ginifer
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To: O.C. - Old Cracker

She's the print media version of Dan Rather.


8 posted on 11/05/2004 7:49:02 AM PST by CSXT
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To: anniegetyourgun

Here's ONE question NOT being asked by the media and they NEED to ask it: "HOW MANY TERRORISTS HAVE BEEN KILLED FROM THE WAR IN IRAQ?"

"WHAT IS THE BODY COUNT OF DEAD TERRORISTS?"


9 posted on 11/05/2004 7:49:35 AM PST by princess leah (\)
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To: O.C. - Old Cracker

Helen - Arafat is setting a good example for you.


10 posted on 11/05/2004 7:49:43 AM PST by Scarchin (Lone conservative teacher)
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To: O.C. - Old Cracker

Helen needs to sit in a corner and think about this a bit more.....and then talk to Walter.


11 posted on 11/05/2004 7:49:48 AM PST by nuconvert (Everyone has a photographic memory. Some don't have film.)
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To: O.C. - Old Cracker
"This woman is a deluxe nutburger."

If she was the McDonalds combo meal she'd be #2. Oh wait...as far as I am concerned she is #2
12 posted on 11/05/2004 7:50:29 AM PST by sierrahome (Proud member of the Geo. W. Bush Reelection Team)
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To: princess leah

Can we add Arafat to that count yet?


13 posted on 11/05/2004 7:50:31 AM PST by anniegetyourgun
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To: O.C. - Old Cracker

Herskowitz was to be the ghostwriter of the biography.....

Takes one to know one, eh?


14 posted on 11/05/2004 7:50:59 AM PST by illiac (If we don't change directions soon, we'll get where we're going)
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To: O.C. - Old Cracker

Fire burn and cauldron bubble!


15 posted on 11/05/2004 7:51:32 AM PST by PianoMan (Top priority for the new government - STOP SPECTER)
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To: O.C. - Old Cracker
Bush apparently invested in the fantasy that invading Iraq would be a cakewalk. Evangelist Pat Robertson, founder of the U.S. Christian Coalition, disclosed that when he warned the president about the need to prepare Americans for the prospect of casualties in Iraq, Bush responded, "We're not going to have any casualties." Pat Robertson said last night that Bush never said that. That he misspoke after many interviews and that GW never did say that. Oh, PS. Barf alert next time!
16 posted on 11/05/2004 7:51:57 AM PST by NormB (Yes, but watch your cookies!!)
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To: O.C. - Old Cracker

The one thing, and only thing, that I'll give this raving, angry battleaxe is that she reads and responds to her e-mail. Hint, hint....


17 posted on 11/05/2004 7:52:54 AM PST by eureka! (It will not be safe to vote Democrat for a long, long, time...)
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To: O.C. - Old Cracker

I have made a "report abuse" complaint to the Admin Moderator for Helen Thomas pictures without the manditory Anna Kournacova antidote!!


18 posted on 11/05/2004 7:53:05 AM PST by Pharmer (How am I supposed to rule the world when I surrounded by freakin liberal idiots!)
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To: Jeff Chandler

A comb? Imagine being married to her and trying to run your fingers through that medusa mop. Just imagine being married to her.


19 posted on 11/05/2004 7:53:55 AM PST by O.C. - Old Cracker (When the cracker gets old, you wind up with Old Cracker. - O.C.)
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To: O.C. - Old Cracker

"We will not attack Iraq with casualty" does not mean "We will not attack Iraq with casualties."


20 posted on 11/05/2004 7:53:58 AM PST by azhenfud ("He who is always looking up seldom finds others' lost change...")
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To: O.C. - Old Cracker

You ruined my day - I shouldn't have opened that link. When I saw that picture, I had to go puke. Stop posting obscenities.


21 posted on 11/05/2004 7:55:03 AM PST by matchwood
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To: O.C. - Old Cracker
The good news is she's got 4 more years to get over it! Of course none of those innocent civilians were carrying guns.

Pray for W and Our Troops

22 posted on 11/05/2004 7:55:06 AM PST by bray (Nam Vets Rock!!)
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To: O.C. - Old Cracker

On the up side -- she's one less presstitute we have to deal with in 2008.


23 posted on 11/05/2004 7:56:11 AM PST by Naspino (Not creative enough to have a tagline.)
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To: Question Liberal Authority
Why did President George W. Bush order a U.S. attack on Iraq in the first place?

For people that value intelligence so much, the left sure doesn't sound very smart. They're always professing not to "understand" why Bush went to Iraq. The reasons are obvious. What these people should be saying is "we don't like that it went in to Iraq". It would be a lot more honest. Oopps I forgot I was talking about libs.

PS Helen, please visit a good lingere store. They can really help with those saggy boobs of yours.

24 posted on 11/05/2004 7:58:13 AM PST by Wonderama ("America is a vast conspiracy to make you happy"....John Updike)
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To: Wonderama
"PS Helen, please visit a good lingere store. They can really help with those saggy boobs of yours."

But nothing will help w/ this..:

25 posted on 11/05/2004 8:08:18 AM PST by gobucks (http://oncampus.richmond.edu/academics/classics/students/Ribeiro/laocoon.htm)
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To: Wonderama
What these people should be saying is "we don't like that it went in to Iraq". It would be a lot more honest.

Actually, the honest stance is "we hate George Bush and oppose everything he does, whether it makes sense or not".

Remember, these same people were outraged that George Bush might lower gas prices. They'd rather see 50 million people live in oppression than give Bush the credit for liberating them.

26 posted on 11/05/2004 8:13:09 AM PST by Question Liberal Authority (THANK YOU, FREEPERS for re-electing President George W. Bush!)
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To: O.C. - Old Cracker

This whiny old bat's screeching is as annoying as the EBS test signal.

"The important thing is that you tried. Go to sleep, crazy lady." - Peter Griffin


27 posted on 11/05/2004 8:18:19 AM PST by hsrazorback1 (G'night, John-Boy.)
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To: O.C. - Old Cracker
hellen, you old RATbag...

28 posted on 11/05/2004 8:20:04 AM PST by Chode (American Hedonist ©®)
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To: O.C. - Old Cracker

Let's hope Tammy Faye Bakker sees that picture. It is her in about another hundred years.


29 posted on 11/05/2004 8:21:01 AM PST by billhilly (If you're lurking here from DU (Democrats unglued), I trust this post will make you sick)
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To: Scarchin

Heck, put a checkered head piece on her and a beard and she'd look like Arafat.


30 posted on 11/05/2004 8:22:09 AM PST by Buzwardo
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To: O.C. - Old Cracker

Doesn't this woman EVER get tired of lying?


31 posted on 11/05/2004 8:24:08 AM PST by Malleus Dei ("Communists are just Democrats in a hurry.")
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To: Jeff Chandler
Gee whiz, you'd think she could run a comb through her hair.

That's hair?

32 posted on 11/05/2004 8:25:49 AM PST by Malleus Dei ("Communists are just Democrats in a hurry.")
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To: Jeff Chandler

"Gee whiz, you'd think she could run a comb through her hair."

No way. She'd pull out what's left of her brains with the roots.


33 posted on 11/05/2004 8:27:20 AM PST by EEDUDE (Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.)
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To: O.C. - Old Cracker; Xenalyte
Ack!

Everytime somebody posts a picture of Helen I have to go to "xenalyte's" homepage to cleanse my mental palate.

A little something for Helen fans.


34 posted on 11/05/2004 8:27:28 AM PST by N. Theknow ("We will take your money and use it for the common good.")
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To: anniegetyourgun
You know she's 'gotta smell. Most walking cadavers do but I bet her aroma could strip paint!

Bush should have Andy Card give her a thorough de-lousing before she gets within 30 feet of the podium...

with lye.

35 posted on 11/05/2004 8:41:43 AM PST by johnny7 (“We blowed 'em up real good!” -John Candy & Joe Flaherty, SCTV)
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To: O.C. - Old Cracker
*Puh-leeze* edit out the photo when posting one of her lying rants.

Oh Helen, by the way, here's how I feel post-election day:

:-)

36 posted on 11/05/2004 10:22:57 AM PST by dansangel (Thank You GOD for answering our prayers!)
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