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John Kerry's talk with black clergy a portent of fate
The Baltimore Sun ^ | November 6, 2004 | Gregory Kane

Posted on 11/06/2004 3:30:30 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife

THE FIRST inkling I had that Sen. John Kerry would lose Tuesday's election came exactly a week before, when I participated in a telephone conference call that the Massachusetts senator had with about 350 black clergy. After former President Bill Clinton introduced him, Kerry told the group that the issue of gay marriage was a red herring.

"I ask you not to be diverted from the real issue in this case," Kerry told the ministers. "Fifty percent of the African-American men in New York City are unemployed. ... There are more black men in prison than in college."

As if blowing off the moral issue that would eventually cost him the election weren't enough, we have to look at what else was wrong with the picture: When you're telling clergy folks that things many Christians regard as sins don't matter, you might not want an admitted philanderer to be the guy introducing you.

Earlier in the campaign, Kerry shared a stage with the Rev. Jesse Jackson, another fella not yet bitten by the monogamy bug, who said moral issues in campaign 2004 were a diversion.

Well, not to the 3.5 million voters who provided President Bush his margin of victory, they weren't. Add to that Kerry's sneaky attempt at demagoguery in addressing the black clergy - the number of black men unemployed in New York City and in prison were "acceptable" to Bush, according to the senator - and you may have a reason why the president got a slightly higher percentage of the black vote this year than in 2000.

(Excerpt) Read more at baltimoresun.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Editorial; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: billclinton; blackchurches; blackvote; church; kerry; morals; pandering
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1 posted on 11/06/2004 3:30:31 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

If W had done this, there would be a huge cry from the left about 'separation of church and state' -- rats have been duping blacks for ages by using their clergy.


2 posted on 11/06/2004 3:32:45 AM PST by Ed_in_NJ (I'm in old skivvies and New Jersey, and I approved this message.)
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To: Ed_in_NJ

Read the entire piece if you can.

It's very good.


3 posted on 11/06/2004 3:34:11 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Ed_in_NJ

What's truly sad about it is that they buy into what the RATS are telling them.


4 posted on 11/06/2004 3:36:01 AM PST by MadAnthony1776
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Over looking immorality is exactly why so many black men are in prison in the first place.

Fifty percent of them probably hung up and said "Damn Cracker runnin' for president".

5 posted on 11/06/2004 3:41:41 AM PST by DainBramage
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

bttt


6 posted on 11/06/2004 3:41:43 AM PST by kcvl
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
good post!!!!!
Democratic presidential nominee John Kerry (R) arrives in church as the choir sings a hymn at the Mount Olivet Baptist Church in Columbus, Ohio October 17, 2004. If re-elected, President Bush plans a 'big January surprise' and will move quickly to allow some private Social Security accounts that will reduce benefits for retirees and swell the U.S. deficit, Kerry said. (Brian Snyder/Reuters)
Sun Oct 17,12:59 PM ET
Reuters

Democratic presidential nominee John Kerry (news - web sites) (R) arrives in church as the choir sings a hymn at the Mount Olivet Baptist Church in Columbus, Ohio October 17, 2004. If re-elected, President Bush (news - web sites) plans a 'big January surprise' and will move quickly to allow some private Social Security (news - web sites) accounts that will reduce benefits for retirees and swell the U.S. deficit, Kerry said. (Brian Snyder/Reuters)

 

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Democratic presidential candidate Sen. John Kerry, D-Mass., speaks during Sunday Services at the Shiloh Baptist Church in Dayton, Ohio Sunday, Oct. 31, 2004. At left is the Rev. Dr. Selvyn Bachus, pastor.  (AP Photo/Gerald Herbert)

 

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7 posted on 11/06/2004 3:44:49 AM PST by dennisw (Gd - against Amelek for all generations.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Take a good look at the leaders of the Dems: AN ACCUSED RAPIST INTRODUCING AN ADMIITED WAR CRIMINAL!

This two represent the essence of the Democrap Party!
8 posted on 11/06/2004 3:45:40 AM PST by leprechaun9
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To: dennisw
kerry_namaste.jpg

 

 

9 posted on 11/06/2004 3:48:33 AM PST by dennisw (Gd - against Amelek for all generations.)
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To: rdb3; mhking; stainlessbanner; Squantos; Travis McGee; clee1; Cincinatus' Wife; ALOHA RONNIE; ...

I said you guys might have saved the republic. Maybe it's true. The margin of four million included enough conservative black votes, didn't it? Maybe more? My hat's off. Thanks again. We should never forget this historic year, and the fact that the descendants of men who used to buy their freedom for $710.96 (and who cared enough to fight on both sides of our CW1) stood in 2004 for families, tradition, freedom (for all) and unity in the war.


10 posted on 11/06/2004 3:50:28 AM PST by risk
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To: dennisw

I wonder how many churches he will be visiting or how many goose hunts he will embark on now that the election is over......


11 posted on 11/06/2004 3:51:59 AM PST by somemoreequalthanothers
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To: dennisw
Notice the lips. I think that this is the lipstick on the pig that Karl Rove was referring to.
12 posted on 11/06/2004 3:53:34 AM PST by Coldwater Creek ("we voted like we prayed")
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To: risk; dennisw; leprechaun9; kcvl; DainBramage; All


13 posted on 11/06/2004 3:56:23 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

How about the clergy providing strong moral leadership instead of mindless, manipulative demagoguery???


14 posted on 11/06/2004 4:02:04 AM PST by tkathy (There will be no world peace until all thuggocracies are gone from the earth.)
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To: tkathy

Many of them are.


15 posted on 11/06/2004 4:03:15 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: somemoreequalthanothers
I wonder how many churches he will be visiting or how many goose hunts he will embark on now that the election is over......

How many Botox® treatments, skin peels, hair colorings, cheek implants will he submit to? All done by Teresa's hirelings IMHO.

16 posted on 11/06/2004 4:08:01 AM PST by dennisw (Gd - against Amelek for all generations.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
The transformation has already begun for Hillry. No in your face shrill from her mouth since election day.

A stealth movement has begun, Hillry must overcome what the liberals now believe the reason they lost, religion.

Liberal tools this season were unadulterated media support, reenacting Vietnam, 'youth vote', 'fear to seniors', elitism, party of superior intelligence, pop culture, and vote fraud.

JFKerry seemed to become aware of the 'moral' divide early in October and became a super preacher.

Still with all these tools who defeated them those 'evil' religious zealots.

Imagine a humble, meek, saintly Hillry appearing, transformed by a miraculous religious experience.... hubby's surgery... maybe or some unknown event yet to occur.
17 posted on 11/06/2004 4:09:22 AM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
First, I surely hope the GOP learned something from this, although we can be a "stiff-necked" bunch as well as anyone in ignoring the decency attraction of the Bush agenda. All the next candidate needs to do is imagine picking off another one or two blue states by catering to moderation. He will see the advantage in the red states evaporate like the dew in Death Valley. That's what I took from this election.

Second, if I understand a Gallup result I read, blacks in this country only shifted an additional 2% to Bush, from 9% to 11%, perhaps even a smaller jump than that. If that's true, then the Democrats stand on moral issues hasn't caused all that much erosion to the extreme liberal bent to the black population. It's simply an overwhelmingly liberal demographic, and conservatives may have better luck working with Jews and Hispanics. We keep hearing messages to the contrary, but there is no evidence in real life.

It's been a fun wek for me, almost euphoric. I have to temper that with one caveat. I live in Minnesota. In a state that lead the nation in voter turnout, even as high as that nationwide turnout was, Kerry still won Minnesota by a nearly insurmountable 98,000 votes. For the life of me, I can't see where we will find 98,001 more sensible voters. I have this gnawing fear that Minnesota is simply a liberal state...like Massachusetts. Still, I'd much rather lose this battle and win the war rather than have it the other way around. And, I've been active in the party for a dozen years so will likely relax a few more days and attack again.

No matter what, it's been a satisfying week, so let's enjoy the moment.

18 posted on 11/06/2004 4:09:41 AM PST by stevem
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To: DainBramage

"Over looking immorality is exactly why so many black men are in prison in the first place."

Character does matter....in personal and public lives!


19 posted on 11/06/2004 4:17:43 AM PST by Notasoccermom
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To: Just mythoughts
Imagine a humble, meek, saintly Hillry appearing, transformed by a miraculous religious experience.... hubby's surgery... maybe or some unknown event yet to occur.

I am. I also can see a lot of GOP 527 ads showcasing the real Hillary.

20 posted on 11/06/2004 4:24:04 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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