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To: lodi90

It would be a grave mistake to only treat these Jihadi attacks as a law enforcement issue to be dealt with after the fact, or even as an intelligence issue to follow avowed extremists and extremist groups. The problem is that the vast majority of Muslims will be outwardly peaceful while harboring an intense hatred of anything non-Muslim. There will always be jihadists coming out of nowhere to perpetrate barbarism on the rest of society. As Islam grows the attacks will grow worse until they feel strong enough to come out in mass to impose Shari'a on everyone. That is the model devised by Mohammad in Mecca and Medina - small atrocities by a core cadre while building a following and then sudden violent takeover.

If the idea is to protect people from Muslim violence, the target must be Islam as a whole. The scriptures of Islam provide the basis for violence against non-Muslims to promote Islam as well as against Muslims as an enforcement mechanism within Islam. Islam should be regarded as an ideological movement rather than a religious one. Even though intenally it has a religious dimension, the important point for non-Muslims is that its aim is not merely a way of life for adherents or even conversion, but control of every aspect of life for Muslims and non-Muslims alike. And while most Muslims may never commit a violent act in their lives, a society of Muslims will always breed and include an enforcement cadre that can only be checked and removed by eliminating all of Islam or reducing it to isolated individuals. Any large group of Muslims inevitably contains a dangerous core that takes the teachings of Islam in their totality more seriously than most.


63 posted on 11/07/2004 5:11:23 AM PST by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (Give Them Liberty Or Give Them Death! - Islam Delenda Est! - Rumble thee forth...)
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To: UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide; All
"...Islam should be regarded as an ideological movement rather than a religious one. Even though intenally it has a religious dimension, the important point for non-Muslims is that its aim is not merely a way of life for adherents or even conversion, but control of every aspect of life for Muslims and non-Muslims alike. And while most Muslims may never commit a violent act in their lives, a society of Muslims will always breed and include an enforcement cadre that can only be checked and removed by eliminating all of Islam or reducing it to isolated individuals. Any large group of Muslims inevitably contains a dangerous core that takes the teachings of Islam in their totality more seriously than most...[sic]"

Until I read your post, I had at times felt like giving on America and the West. I honestly thought that most Americans simply don't get it or just don't understand Islam.

I have spent almost 15 years living and working overseas in a Muslim country and have experienced and seen exactly what you say.

73 posted on 11/07/2004 6:13:03 AM PST by expatguy (Fallujah Delenda Est!!)
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To: UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide; Grampa Dave; Fatalis

63 is spot on. Well said.


84 posted on 11/07/2004 8:59:58 AM PST by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide
And while most Muslims may never commit a violent act in their lives, a society of Muslims will always breed and include an enforcement cadre that can only be checked and removed by eliminating all of Islam or reducing it to isolated individuals.

All Muslims participate in the demographic Jihad where quantity obliterates quality

97 posted on 11/07/2004 10:52:54 AM PST by dennisw (G_D - against Amelek for all generations.)
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To: UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide

Islam is Fascism disguised as religion.


113 posted on 11/14/2004 5:40:15 AM PST by hershey
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