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Pre-election expectations fail to materialize at polls
San Francisco Chronicle ^ | November 7, 2004 | Vicki Haddock, Insight Staff Writer

Posted on 11/07/2004 3:57:24 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife

This was supposed to be the presidential election in which those hip souls who dwell in the cybersphere would revolutionize politics, and a gargantuan army of draft-wary young people would really rock the vote.

These and other axioms were embraced by many as articles of faith going into Election 2004.

Hopeful Democrats also believed that President Bush would find reelection impossible because so many Americans disapproved of his performance, thought the country was headed in exactly the wrong direction, and knew they were worse off in almost every imaginable way than they were four years ago.

Bush's opposition was convinced that African Americans, embittered by their disenfranchisement in 2000, would turn out to vote as never before, and that nearly every Latino voter would remain faithful to the Democratic Party. The opposition was sure that a yawning gender gap would give nominee John Kerry an overwhelming edge among women voters, that he could win without carrying a single Southern state, and that 11th hour campaigning by ex- President Bill Clinton would turbo-charge the Kerry-Edwards ticket's chance for victory.

Most of all, Bush opponents perceived that the quicksand of Iraq, which more and more Americans regarded with a sense of impending doom, would morph into the campaign's overriding issue and ensure the president's undoing.

A curious thing happened on the way to the polls, however: all those fond beliefs proved to be mere myths. The demonized George W. Bush got the White House. The Democrats just got it wrong.

(Excerpt) Read more at sfgate.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 4moreyears; boohoohoo; bush; defense; election; ethics; kerry; kerrydefeat; leadership; minorities; morals; myths; napalminthemorning; partyofthehindparts; security; votingblocks; wot; youthvote

1 posted on 11/07/2004 3:57:26 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
A generation ago, the South represented just a fourth of the Electoral College votes. It's grown. Today it's almost a third. That transformation prompted the turncoat Democrat, Georgia Sen. Zell Miller....

Telling, isn't it, that she labeled Sen. Miller a turncoat?

2 posted on 11/07/2004 4:03:56 AM PST by mewzilla
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

The fact is that the voters did not buy the lies of the Dimwitocrats about the wrong direction, and demostrated that we want to continue in the direction that Bush wants and is taking us in!


3 posted on 11/07/2004 4:05:53 AM PST by stockpirate (Kerry; supported by, financed by, trained by, guided by, revered by, in favor of, Communists.)
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To: mewzilla

It doesn't matter. Zell turned his coat on a socialist takeover.

This article is worth posting in the hallways of universities.


4 posted on 11/07/2004 4:08:20 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
The Democrats just got it wrong.

...And will continue to as long as they look at middle Americans as "Dumb"

Oh, one huge issue I don't see mentioned enough is the absolute destruction of the MSM and the alternative sources that people can get there news.

American will no longer be dictated to by the elitist prix!!

5 posted on 11/07/2004 4:10:54 AM PST by sirchtruth (Words Mean Things...)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

That was a damn good article, and from a SF newspaper. Shocking.


6 posted on 11/07/2004 4:10:59 AM PST by somemoreequalthanothers
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Hopefully the base of the dems will forever be locked on Sept 10th 2001 because they will still think that political theory and strategy have not changed.

Those that slip through, I hope, are so disheartened by the insane,rabid left of their party that they will come to join us.

7 posted on 11/07/2004 4:12:44 AM PST by carlr
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To: sirchtruth

That's a reality the msm doesn't like to talk about.


8 posted on 11/07/2004 4:15:47 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: stockpirate
Hopefully people who came out to vote in this election will not fall back into their old ways and neglect to vote. Maybe this election gave them the patriot bug and they see that their votes counts and is vital to America.
9 posted on 11/07/2004 4:19:26 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: carlr

Yes. Their doctrine is stale and anti-American.

More and more people will see this.


10 posted on 11/07/2004 4:20:33 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

morning, check out this one i just posted.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1273401/posts


11 posted on 11/07/2004 4:21:26 AM PST by stockpirate (Kerry; supported by, financed by, trained by, guided by, revered by, in favor of, Communists.)
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To: somemoreequalthanothers

Yes!

Finding truth in the msm is shocking!


12 posted on 11/07/2004 4:21:35 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
This was supposed to be the presidential election in which those hip souls who dwell in the cybersphere would revolutionize politics,

Oh, but they did. Only, it was the conservative side of the blogosphere. One word: Buckhead!
13 posted on 11/07/2004 4:21:55 AM PST by Rastus
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To: stockpirate
The fact is that the voters did not buy the lies of the Dimwitocrats about the wrong direction, and demostrated that we want to continue in the direction that Bush wants and is taking us in!

I heard a pollster on C-Span say that those who said the country was heading in the wrong direction actually voted for Bush. Normally we think of the "wrong direction" question as an indictment of the incumbent and, hence, a vote against him. In this case, as it turns out, voters who thought we are headed in the wrong direction believe the Dems are the cause and Bush can help solve the problem. Interesting

14 posted on 11/07/2004 4:22:35 AM PST by PaulJ
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
That's a reality the msm doesn't like to talk about.

They will only face the problem when it's too late.

Why Dan Rather is still at CBS is the problem, and they are too arrogant to recognize it.

15 posted on 11/07/2004 4:24:08 AM PST by sirchtruth (Words Mean Things...)
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To: PaulJ

Interesting point.


16 posted on 11/07/2004 4:31:02 AM PST by stockpirate (Kerry; supported by, financed by, trained by, guided by, revered by, in favor of, Communists.)
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To: PaulJ

That right/wrong direction didnt make sense in some of the red states where Bush had a good approval rating (55% or higher) but right track/wrong track was about even. I think thats what Zogby did in respect to his polling thinking that the country would go solidy for Kerry. Cant believe anyone would subscribe to this guy anymore...


17 posted on 11/07/2004 4:34:43 AM PST by bushsupporter30
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To: Rastus
Kerry won 54 percent of young voters.

Not sure, but the 44% that went for Bush is much higher than in past years. Once they have been "mugged," more will turn conservative. Dems have lost a generation.

18 posted on 11/07/2004 4:39:50 AM PST by frithguild (Election 2004 - Many Nights of the Broken Glass)
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To: bushsupporter30

The right track/wrong track question is too simplistic and the Lefties interpreted it incorrectly. A large majority of people who think we ae on the wrong track want Mr. Bush to be TOUGHER and MORE CONSERVATIVE, rather than the reverse.

Perhaps we need a new Studs Terkel to go out and talk to Red America and maybe more important, LISTEN to them. We need an accurate compilation of what we really think.


19 posted on 11/07/2004 4:41:15 AM PST by KateatRFM
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To: bushsupporter30

I approve of the job Bush is doing, given what he has to work with - obstructionists like Daschle, etc. However, the country is going in the wrong direction because conservative principles have not been followed - prescription drugd, the farm bill, etc. I have a feeling I am not alone in that sentiment. And the MSM can't figure that out? Right.


20 posted on 11/07/2004 4:44:08 AM PST by frithguild (Election 2004 - Many Nights of the Broken Glass)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

The young people did vote against the draft. They voted against the party that proposed it, not the party accused of planning it.


21 posted on 11/07/2004 4:47:12 AM PST by BigKPM (Spun by the Times again)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
so many Americans disapproved of his performance, thought the country was headed in exactly the wrong direction, and knew they were worse off in almost every imaginable way than they were four years ago.

I am still waiting for some democrat to tell me how he suffered for 4 years under BUSH
Recession was overcome and they all got tax cuts
What the hell is their delusional problem

They must all think they are going to be dragged into church on Sunday and forced to pray
22 posted on 11/07/2004 4:59:51 AM PST by uncbob
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

And here is the democrats BIGGEST PROBLEM


They are prisoners of the Pro Abortion--Gun Grabbin--Homosexual Pushing--Tree Worshipping--Anti Religion --Anti Military-- America is The Cause of All the World Ills --wack jobs that are the basis of the VAST majority of their $$$$$$$$$$$

They say $$$$$ is the mother's milk of politics and the democrats ain't got no other teats to feast on

No way they can shake off that Tar Baby and survive financially


23 posted on 11/07/2004 5:01:59 AM PST by uncbob
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

you might think this article was written by any number of Free Republic regulars. MiaT - Kattracks and others could have told these liberals in Calif or other places 2 weeks before the election that all their bases are ours. NIce job ground team.


24 posted on 11/07/2004 5:03:36 AM PST by q_an_a
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To: uncbob

The lie is their mantra - it's all they have.


25 posted on 11/07/2004 5:12:48 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: q_an_a

Bump!


26 posted on 11/07/2004 5:13:19 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

An interesting, if not cynical, analysis. No matter how one slices it, it still comes across as sour grapes masquerading as wine.

Democrats remain rooted in the past and their "clock" absolutely stopped in 2000. This article only documents what didn't happen in this election - not what did.


27 posted on 11/07/2004 5:18:50 AM PST by DustyMoment (Repeal CFR NOW!!)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Exit polling -- which we all now know is more useful for analyzing election trends than predicting winners -- ....

What the heck does that mean?!

The media went straight from "the exit polls are garbage" to "based on exit polls, Bush increased his margin among _______". No one has ever explained to us whether these "trend analyses" are based on exit polls which over-sampled Kerry supporters, thus understating Bush's "trends".

If anyone has read an explanation of this, please enlighten me!

28 posted on 11/07/2004 5:19:10 AM PST by Timeout (Whew!!)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

We tend to forget how blessed we may have been in this election.

One thing I've noticed is that the same extreme liberals who held power during Clinton's regieme, haven't changed heir beliefs, nor have they gone away.

The election, IMHO, was about 30% too favorable for the liberal socialist agenda.

IMHO, America needs to return its democratic base to democrats like Everett Dirkson rather than promoting a socialist elite.


29 posted on 11/07/2004 5:23:36 AM PST by Cvengr (;^))
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To: Timeout

The reason they are back on exit polls is that the policy wonks are so out of touch that they cannot, of their own accord, get out a pencil and peace of paper and write an essay on why out of touch liberal elite policy wonks who wanted to shove gay marriages and promised tax increases down the throats of Americans lost the election. They are so clueless they actually have to go ask someone.


30 posted on 11/07/2004 5:25:00 AM PST by AndyJackson
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To: Cvengr

Yes. We are blessed with this victory.

The magnitude of it gets clearer and clearer.


___________________________________________________________

RE Hillary:


..........."In their way of thinking," Noonan observes of the Clintons, "America is an important place, but not a thing of primary importance. America is the platform for the Clintons' ambitions, not the focus of them." The implication is that if they were principled emissaries of a political cause, the ambition to do big things for America would override all others. Instead, they have focused on themselves and consequently have made the American political landscape itself "a lower and lesser thing."

They have "behaved as though they are justified in using any tactic in pursuit of their goals," including illegality, deception, libel, threats and "ruining the lives of perceived enemies . . . " They believe, she continues, "they are justified in using any means to achieve their ends for a simple and uncomplicated reason. It is that they are superior individuals whose gifts and backgrounds entitle them to leadership." They do it for themselves; for the continuance of Them.

But the fact is they all do it. The missionaries of the big progressive causes, the Steinems, the Irelands, the Michelmans, the Friedans, and Hillary Clinton herself, were all willing to toss their feminist movement overboard to give Bill Clinton a pass on multiple sexual harassments, and on a career of sexual predation that reflects his utter contempt for the female gender.

Indeed, the Clinton-Lewinsky defense-accord which the feminists signed onto, can be regarded as feminism's Nazi-Soviet Pact. Their calculation was both simple and crude: If Clinton was removed, Hillary would go too. But she was their link to patronage and power, and they couldn't imagine losing that. Their kind was finally in control of the White House, and the conservative enemies of their beautiful future were not.

Almost a decade earlier-in the name of the very principles they so casually betrayed for Clinton-the same feminists had organized the most disgraceful lynching of a public figure in America's history. Despite fiercely proclaimed commitments to the racial victims of American persecution, they launched a vicious campaign to destroy the reputation of an African American jurist who had risen, unblemished, from dirt-shack poverty in the segregated south to the nation's highest courts. They did it knowingly, cynically, with the intent to destroy him in his person, and to ruin his public career.

Has there ever been a more reprehensible witch-hunt in American public life than the one organized by feminist leaders who then emerged as vocal defenders of the White House lecher? Was there ever a more sordid betrayal of common decency than this collective defamation-for which no apology has or ever will be given?

What was the sin Clarence Thomas committed to earn such punishment? The allegation-that he had talked inappropriately ten years before to a female lawyer and made her uncomfortable-appears laughable in the post-Lewinsky climate of presidential gropings and borderline rapes that the same feminists have sanctioned for their political accomplice. Thomas' real crime, as everybody knew but was too intimidated by the hysteria to confirm at the time, was his commitment to constitutional principles they hated. They hated these principles because the Constitution was written for the explicit purpose of preventing the realization of their socialist and egalitarian dreams.

Peggy Noonan is right. The focus of Hillary Clinton's ambition is not her country. But it is not just herself either. It is also a place that does not exist. It is the vision of a world that can only be achieved when the Chosen accumulate enough power to change this one.

That is why Hillary and Sid Blumenthal, her fawning New Left Machiavelli, call their own political philosophy the politics of "The Third Way." This distinguishes it from the "triangulation" strategy Dick Morris used to resurrect Bill Clinton's presidency. Morris guided Clinton, in appropriating specific Republican policies towards a balanced budget and welfare reform as a means of securing his re-election. Hillary Clinton was on board for these policies, and in that sense is a triangulator herself. But "triangulation" is too merely tactical and too morally crass to define a serious political philosophy. Above all, it fails to project the sense of promise that intoxicates the imaginations of self-styled "progressives." That is why Hillary and Sid call their politics "The Third Way."

"The Third Way" is a familiar term from the lexicon of the left with a long and dishonorable pedigree in the catastrophes created by messianic socialists in the 20th Century. It is the most ornate panel in the tapestry of deception I described at the beginning of this essay.

In the 1930s, Nazis used "The Third Way" to characterize their own brand of national socialism as a equidistant between the "internationalist" socialism of the Soviet Union and the capitalism of the West. Trotskyists used "The Third Way" as a term to distinguish their own Marxism from Stalinism and capitalism. In the 1960s, New Leftists used "The Third Way" to define their politics as an independent socialism between the Soviet gulag and America's democracy.

But as the history of Nazism, Trotskyism and the New Left have shown, there is no "Third Way." There is the capitalist, democratic way based on private property and individual rights-a way that leads to liberty and universal opportunity. And there is the socialist way of group identities, group rights, a relentless expansion of the political state, restricted liberty and diminished opportunity. The Third Way is not a path to the future. It is just the suspension between these two destinations. It is a bad faith attempt on the part of people who are incapable of giving up their socialist schemes to escape the taint of their discredited past.

Is there a practical difference in the modus operandi of Clinton narcissism and Clinton messianism? I think there is, and it is the difference between "triangulation"-a cynical compromise to hang onto power until the next election cycle, and "The Third Way"-a cynical deception to ensure the continuance of Us, until we acquire enough power to transform everyone else. It is the difference between the politics of getting what you can, and the politics of changing the world.

A capsule illustration of these different political ambitions can be found in the book Primary Colors , which describes, in thinly veiled fiction, Bill Clinton's road to the presidency. Primary Colors is an admiring portrait not only of the candidate, but of the dedicated missionaries-the true believing staffers and the long-suffering wife-who serve Clinton's political agendas, but at the price of enabling the demons of self.

These staffers-political functionaries like Harold Ickes and George Stephanopoulos-serve as the flak-catchers and "bimbo eruption"-controllers who clean up his personal messes and shape his image for gullible publics. But they are also the idealists who design his message. And in the end, they enable him to politically succeed.

It is Primary Colors' insight into the minds of these missionaries that is revealing. They see Clinton clearly as a flawed and often repellent human being. They see him as a lecher, a liar and a man who would destroy an innocent person in order to advance his own career. (This is, in fact, the climactic drama of the text). Yet through all the sordidness and lying, the personal ruthlessness and disorder, the idealistic missionaries faithfully follow and serve the leader.

They do it not because they are themselves corrupted through material rewards. The prospect of fame is not even what drives them. Think only of Harold Ickes, personally betrayed and brutally cast aside by Clinton, who nonetheless refused to turn on him, even after the betrayal. Instead, Ickes kept his own counsel and protected Clinton, biding his time and waiting for Hillary. Then joined her staff to manage her Senate campaign.

The idealistic missionaries in this true tale bite their tongues and betray their principles, rather than betray him. They do so because in Bill Clinton they see a necessary vehicle of their noble ambition and uplifting dreams. He, too, cares about social justice, about poor people and blacks (or so he makes them believe). They will serve him and lie for him and destroy for him, because he is the vessel of their hope.

Because Bill Clinton "cares," he is the vital connection to the power they need to accomplish the redemption. Because the keys to the state are within Clinton's grasp, he becomes in their eyes the only prospect for advancing the progressive cause. Therefore, they will sacrifice anything and everything-principle, friends, country-to make him succeed.

But Bill Clinton is not like those who worship him, corrupting himself and others for a higher cause. Unlike them, he betrays principles because he has none. He will even betray his country, but without the slightest need to betray it for something else-for an idea, a party, or a cause.* He is a narcissist who sacrifices principle for power because his vision is so filled with himself that he cannot tell the difference.

But the idealists who serve him-the Stephanopoulos's, the Ickes's, the feminists, the progressives and Hillary Clinton-can tell the difference. Their cynicism flows from the very perception they have of right and wrong. They do it for higher ends. They do it for the progressive faith. They do it because they see themselves as having the power to redeem the world from evil. It is that terrifyingly exalted ambition that fuels their spiritual arrogance and justifies their sordid and, if necessary, criminal means.

And that is why they hate conservatives. They hate you because you are killers of their dream. Because you are defenders of a Constitution that thwarts their cause. They hate you because your "reactionary" commitment to individual rights, to a single standard and to a neutral and limited state obstructs their progressive designs. They hate you because you are believers in property and its rights as the cornerstones of prosperity and human freedom; because you do not see the market economy as a mere instrument for acquiring personal wealth and political war chests, to be overcome in the end by bureaucratic schemes.

Conservatives who think progressives are misinformed idealists will forever be blind-sided by the malice of the left-by the cynicism of those who pride themselves on principle, by the viciousness of those who champion sensitivity, by the intolerance of those who call themselves liberal, and by the ruthless disregard for the well-being of the downtrodden by those who preen themselves as social saints.

Conservatives are caught by surprise because they see progressives as merely misguided, when in fact they are fundamentally misdirected. They are the messianists of a religious faith. But it is a false faith and a self-serving religion. Since the redeemed future that justifies their existence and rationalizes their hypocrisy can never be realized, what really motivates progressives is a modern idolatry: their limitless passion for the continuance of Them.


http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a39611fde5615.htm


31 posted on 11/07/2004 5:30:26 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: DustyMoment

They walked into a wall.


32 posted on 11/07/2004 5:31:00 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Timeout

I had to read that one a couple of times and it still didn't make sense.


33 posted on 11/07/2004 5:31:51 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cvengr
The election, IMHO, was about 30% too favorable for the liberal socialist agenda.

I agree and though relieved by the results I am still depressed that 48% of the American voters were willing to put a lying traitorous weasel who made life miserable for the Viet Vets and who helped enslave SE Asia as CIC of our armed forces
34 posted on 11/07/2004 6:08:27 AM PST by uncbob
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
This was supposed to be the presidential election in which those hip souls who dwell in the cybersphere would revolutionize politics . . .

That is EXACTLY what did happen, and the pajama-clad troops at Free Republic were in the vanguard!

35 posted on 11/07/2004 6:50:24 AM PST by madprof98
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