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Iran wants China its top oil importer [weaving war-time alliance web]
China Daily ^ | 11-07-05 | agencies

Posted on 11/07/2004 5:08:53 AM PST by CranberrySauce

Iran wants China to replace Japan as its biggest importer of oil and gas, Iranian Oil Minister Bijan Namdar Zanganeh was reported as saying here.

"Japan is our number one energy importer due to historical reasons ... but we would like to give preference to exports to China," Zanganeh was quoted as saying the China Business Weekly magazine.

"From the supply side, we have no difficulties (in making China the top energy oil importer from Iran)," the minister added.

Iran and China last week signed a preliminary accord under which China will buy 10 million tonnes a year of liquefied natural gas (LNG) for 25 years in a deal worth 100 billion dollars.

The memorandum of understanding also grants to Chinese oil giant Sinopec the right to exploit the Yadavaran oil field on a buy-back basis in cooperation with a major international oil company.

On Saturday, Chinese Foreign Minister Li Zhaoxing said in Tehran that Beijing opposed US efforts to refer Iran to the United Nations Security Council over its nuclear programme.

"It would only make the issue more complicated and difficult to work out," Li said during a news conference.

The United States accuses Iran of secretly trying to develop nuclear weapons under cover of its civilian atomic energy program and wants the UN watchdog International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) to take Iran before the UN Security Council when the IAEA meets in Vienna on November 25.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: china; iran; oil
On Saturday, Chinese Foreign Minister Li Zhaoxing said in Tehran that Beijing opposed US efforts to refer Iran to the United Nations Security Council over its nuclear programme.

"It would only make the issue more complicated and difficult to work out," Li said during a news conference.

Isn't that the idea?

1 posted on 11/07/2004 5:08:53 AM PST by CranberrySauce
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To: CranberrySauce
Whoa. That one made me sit up straight, and I suspect that there are a few souls in Tokyo who are having some real quiet discussions.

That's about the stupidest thing Iran could possibly do at this juncture, having pretty done much everything else: taunt a superpower, openly develop nukes, open develop missiles, yell insults at Israel, infiltrate the Iraqi border, and it makes me wonder if they haven't been adding a little extra lead to the water over there.

Iran needs Japan to be dependent on it, because respecting that dependency is one of the few things that could even slow the U.S. down on taking out Iran. If they remove that obstacle, well, hello Tehran.

The U.S. has already been suggesting to Japan to move to Libyan oil; this could seal that move.

Well, when you think you have seen a mad mullah max out the stupidity meter, here they go again. They might as well keep it pegged, because a ride like that is literally a once-in-a-lifetime event.

2 posted on 11/07/2004 5:31:13 AM PST by snowsislander
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To: CranberrySauce
Let's not fly off the handle here. There is a law of unintended consequences you know.

First off, you can't kill everybody. War has its purpose, but let us keep the goal in mind: defeating the islamo-fascists and securing the United States.

Suppose Iran and China develop strong trade relations. China needs the United States as an export market. Iran needs China as a reliable customer for its oil and gas. If they engage in mutually beneficial trade the standard of living in both countries improves. This alone gives both peoples a greater stake in a peaceful world. Just take China by itself. The "capitalization" of China has moderated the whacko Maoists who run the place. The very same thing may well happen in Iran.

Look. There are many possible outcomes. The Chinese and the Iranians may well be conspiring to rule the world through nuclear intimidation and terrorism. But the consequences of this for both nations would be obvious and it would not mean peace and prosperity.

On another level, whack-job Islamist nutballs and Chinese Communists are not going to be natural allies. Especially if they both are driven by competing visions of world hegemony. Let's wait and see how this plays out.

3 posted on 11/07/2004 5:56:40 AM PST by trek
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To: CranberrySauce

anything posted in the "china daily" needs to be taken with more than a pinch of salt -- it's as bad as Pravda was in the 60s


4 posted on 11/07/2004 7:30:38 AM PST by Cronos (W2K4)
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To: trek; CranberrySauce; sukhoi-30mki; CarrotAndStick

plus also the Iranis and Chinese forget that to get Iran's oil to China they got to pass by India, and you can bet the Indian navy will have each one of those convoys in it's sites ready to blast away if China tries anything funny on India's northern borders


5 posted on 11/07/2004 7:32:19 AM PST by Cronos (W2K4)
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To: Cronos

Slight problem-India is also a big importer of Iranian oil-a dependence that will only increase.It's also going to depend on where the Iranians would stand in an Sino-Indian conflict.& don't leave out Paki-land.


6 posted on 11/07/2004 7:40:29 AM PST by sukhoi-30mki
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To: Cronos

But this just isn't a speel of the governtment line. It is reporting an event that actually occurred.


7 posted on 11/07/2004 9:55:24 AM PST by CranberrySauce
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To: CranberrySauce
""It would only make the issue more complicated and difficult to work out," Li said during a news conference."

We agree on this one thing. It IS easier to just bypass the un. I guess the chicoms forgot we did that once, already.

8 posted on 11/07/2004 12:08:59 PM PST by monkeywrench
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To: trek

You sound like you work for the state dept.


9 posted on 11/07/2004 12:09:30 PM PST by monkeywrench
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To: monkeywrench
"You sound like you work for the state dept."

EEEEEKKKKKKKKKKK!

I shall cutoff off my blogging hands at once and retire to a cave.

10 posted on 11/07/2004 12:44:24 PM PST by trek
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To: trek

LOL!!! On second thought, you DO have a sense of humor...


11 posted on 11/07/2004 12:56:11 PM PST by monkeywrench
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To: Calpernia; Velveeta; Revel; lacylu; Donna Lee Nardo; callmejoe; appalachian_dweller

Ping


12 posted on 11/07/2004 5:37:47 PM PST by nw_arizona_granny (On this day your Prayers are needed!!!!!!!)
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To: nw_arizona_granny

Oh boy. As if we needed another kink in the U.S. - China relationship.

The IAEA will no doubt do nothing on November 25 or thereafter about pressing Iran's hands to the fire. All world bodies are impotent.

Ruth, we could really use you and others over at TM...


13 posted on 11/07/2004 5:59:56 PM PST by Donna Lee Nardo
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To: nw_arizona_granny

>>>Iran wants China to replace Japan as its biggest importer of oil and gas, Iranian Oil Minister Bijan Namdar Zanganeh was reported as saying here.

What happened with the Russian contracts? Is Russia distancing themselves with China?


14 posted on 11/07/2004 6:12:07 PM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Cronos

I believe the border problem between China and India is going to get settled. China has already fully settled all the border problems with Russia. They also settled with Vietnam, including martime borders. There are signs that China is healing its relationship with India. One of the most famous slogans that the Chinese Premier has conveyed to India was that China and India had been friends for 2000 years, which comprises of 99.9% of time and conflicted with each other for about 2 years, less than 0.1%. I suspect China and India will become close friends. However, the relation won't be more hostile as now for sure.

I don't think India (and any other country) will cut China's oil line, unless the US lead the way. This is the same situation as for Taiwan. If war breaks out between the two side along the strait and if the US won't involve, NO country will. Japan, south Korea, Philippine? they are all Mr. independable.


15 posted on 11/12/2004 12:21:38 AM PST by however1
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