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Grover Norquist, a strategist close to the administration, contended that the war reduced Mr. Bush's majority by 6 percentage points to 51 percent of the vote.

Mr. Bush now has two years to "solve Iraq" to protect Republican candidates at the midterm elections, he said.


His suggestions: withdrawing United States troops to safe citadels within Iraq or by "handing Falluja over to the Iraqis and saying, 'It's your headache.' "

This is the rational solution to a non-problem.
Why should we care if Iraqis kill each other in tribal squabbles? They've been doing it for centuries.

1 posted on 11/08/2004 9:37:30 AM PST by tpaine
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Why should we care if Iraqis kill each other in tribal squabbles?

So you're cool with the Iranian- and Syrian-backed thugs taking over in Iraq? Get real.

2 posted on 11/08/2004 9:39:06 AM PST by Prime Choice (Hey-hey! Ho-ho! Arlen Specter's gotta go!)
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For mercy sake, format your Profile Page!!! Sheesh.


3 posted on 11/08/2004 9:40:48 AM PST by lafroste (gravity is not a force, dangit)
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In other words, it is all about the JOOOOOOOOOOOS!

Same old garbage from Wahabbi-stooge Norquist and Friends.

4 posted on 11/08/2004 9:40:57 AM PST by montag813
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It has nothing to do with altruism. It's a defense war in the enemy's territory.


5 posted on 11/08/2004 9:41:05 AM PST by Mi-kha-el ((There is no Pravda in Izvestiya and no Izvestiya in Pravda.))
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This story is grat chowder for the true believers that are French and waiting to surrender to Democrats. I wish you subversive trolls would go away.


6 posted on 11/08/2004 9:42:38 AM PST by Tempest (Click on my name for a long list of press contacts)
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Paul Weyrich

Very disappointing to see the ailing Weyrich join this crowd. Two years ago he slammed Norquist, now he joins him. Sad to see such little faith by some veterans on our side.

8 posted on 11/08/2004 9:43:02 AM PST by montag813
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How long have you been posting here? And you believe something the NY Times writes about intramural squabbles within the conservative movement? The only time the Times notices the antiwar right is when they think they can act as a wedge against the GOP.


9 posted on 11/08/2004 9:43:13 AM PST by dirtboy (Tagline temporarily out of commission due to excessive intake of gin-soaked raisins)
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t, your FR Profile Page exploded! Yikes!


10 posted on 11/08/2004 9:43:30 AM PST by 7.62 x 51mm (• veni • vidi • vino • visa • "I came, I saw, I drank wine, I shopped")
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"..Richard Viguerie, dean of conservative direct mail, thought he knew who was to blame: the neoconservatives, the group associated with making the case for the invasion of Iraq..."

Didn't work out that way did it?

11 posted on 11/08/2004 9:44:01 AM PST by Anti-Bubba182
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I think Grover just married an Arab girl recently. That might have something to do with his views, either as cause or effect.


13 posted on 11/08/2004 9:46:11 AM PST by Capriole
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This is the same Grover Norquist who sold out US national security for personal profit? If he's against the war, that's another reason for me to be for it.


14 posted on 11/08/2004 9:46:21 AM PST by thoughtomator (The Era of Old Media is over! Long live the Pajamasphere!)
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This could be a good discussion, if the hyper 'me-too" types don't start dog-piling after the lead "you're a Dem" type poster.

I'd really appreciate a calm, rational discussion of the subject, without knee-jerk hysteria. But then I'd also like to be able to hold my breath for 15 minutes without passing, but I give that much of a chance either.:)

15 posted on 11/08/2004 9:46:38 AM PST by xJones
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Richard Viguerie must still be miffed that Judicial Watch's lawsuit against Dick Cheney for his energy task force records got laughed out of court. Bitterness and embarrassment are poor motivators.


16 posted on 11/08/2004 9:47:50 AM PST by asgardshill (Bad Liberal - No Kool Aid)
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please, if you have one ounce of dignity, dont post crazy things like this, while our armed forces are FIGHTING to WIN, in Iraq, maybe even dying, in this mighty battle there today...
you are busy with your simple solutions, while these folks are busy battling for freedom from terrorism...
where DO YOU COWARDS COME FROM?? if you KNOW, please GO BACK..


17 posted on 11/08/2004 9:48:13 AM PST by ArmyBratCutie ("Four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:soap, ballot, jury, ammo in this order!")
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The anti-war paleocons lost last Tuesday. We are fighting the war on terror in Iraq, and we simply cannot allow the country to be taken over by radical Islamists.

Bush knows what he's doing. He's not going to weenie-out to appease a small gaggle of Weyrich's followers.

18 posted on 11/08/2004 9:49:17 AM PST by sinkspur ("It is a great day to be alive. I appreciate your gratitude." God Himself.)
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Proponents of the war, however, argued that Mr. Bush would not have won re-election without it because Americans did not want to change the commander in chief.

Sounds like this is as close as one is going to get for the neocons to admit why they wanted to go to war in the first place, to help get Bush re-elected.

19 posted on 11/08/2004 9:52:52 AM PST by Ron H. (Amnesty. The one major single issue that surely will split apart the Republican party!)
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Oh this is rich, the New York Times loves the Buchanan Brigade all of a sudden.


22 posted on 11/08/2004 9:56:50 AM PST by jpl (The tribe has spoken, now for goodness sake, get a life.)
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The solution is a viable represntative democracy in Iraq. ANYTHING else is defeat.

Well, not anything. We could shoot their leaders, slaughter the Sunnis and the followers of Sadr, convert the survivors to Christianity and turn Iraq into our base to attack the terrorist supporting nations in the rest of the ME. To me this seems like the best long-term solution, but for some reason, only bloodthirsty ogres like me seem to like it.


29 posted on 11/08/2004 10:01:52 AM PST by Little Ray (I'm a reactionary, hirsute, gun-owning, knuckle dragging, Christian Neanderthal and proud of it!)
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(sigh)

You had to go and praise Grover Norquist.

I lost all respect for him (and anything else he has to say) on the day he wept aloud for open borders and amnesty for illegals, at CPAC.

Figures the NY TImes would like him...


30 posted on 11/08/2004 10:01:55 AM PST by hellinahandcart
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The anti war Conservative still does not see this in the terms of the cold war... the problem is these are not independent pockets they all part of a larger problem and must be view in-total be they do inter-support each others ...

What we are seeing are what left of the alternative and political propaganda weapon systems birthed and developed by the Soviet Union during the cold war this includes the anti war left, the rouge stated and the terrorist networks operating under and alternative agenda
32 posted on 11/08/2004 10:04:37 AM PST by tophat9000
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