Posted on 11/08/2004 12:22:51 PM PST by Moose4
I agree.
All you have to do is to imagine the firestorm if, say, Brit Hume has said something like this about Clinton.
This is no longer just politics. This is serious.
I agree. One of the main attributes of Lincoln's adddress is its "religiousity," or certainly a spiritual sense that informs his thoughts and actions.
You know, I ain't the most religious guy on the block, but seeing all the anti-religious HATE and absolute DISGUST with the idea of God coming from the left, I am thinking more and more that our society may be on the verge of something very, very . . . significant. People with faith, versus people with a virulent hostility to faith.
I know which side I will stand on.
Boy, this is WAY over the top. The NYT advocating the
assassination of the President! - You're so right. As
much as we suffered the overbearing "Presidency" of the
decadent and debauched William Jefferson Blythe Clinton, I
NEVER saw or heard any such advocation of assassination as
I have seen in this situation. - These people are so afraid
that ABORTION will be curtailed in the least little bit, or
that PARTIAL BIRTH ABORTION won't make a comeback that they
are advocating MURDER OF A PRESIDENT in order to assure the
murder of babies on demand! GOD may not be as much on their
side as they imagine.
Yes, I can't believe it's sunk to this.
This should be thr number 1 story - what the times did.
Brit Hume will note it on the Grapevine section of his show, I bet.
Other than that, it will not be noted.
I DO hope the Secret Service is protecting against all who want to tear our government down . . . foreign and domestic.
Sickening.
Well, my take on it is that they are pushing it. They're pushing the AG, and daring them to do something about it. They can't wait to get something like this in court. They'll shop themselves a nice liberal judge, and get a ruling to go their way. All the time painting the administration a jack booted thugs. Mark my words.
i wouldn't stand anywhere near the people who say sh*t like this. the Almighty has never been known to miss.
How about we tell Drudge first? Then Fox. Fox doesn't like to be first with anything except news in wife-murder cases.
You are right on that one.
God is pleased W is in office....for 4 more years
Don't you know anything about constitutional succession?
Al Haig would become president.
;>)
...and the more I learn about Thomas Jefferson that more I realize what a political snake-in-the-grass the man was. He would feel quite comfortable in today's (post 11/2/04) Democratic party, quite comfortable indeed.
Pinch should be punched.
I had hoped the equivalent of classical Rome's Social Wars would pass America by.
In Rome's case, the left-wing lost, and conservatives(Sulla, et al) won. Even so, because of the reduction of politics to mere factionalism, with the resultant effect of all citizens being aligned in two opposing forces of 'amici et inimici', all Romans became either friends and enemies.
Neither Cicero nor anyone else could save the Republic once the belief in its Constitution disappeared. Only the outer forms of the Republic survived for a few declining centuries of Empire and decay.
I'm hoping that historical consciousness will save us from the same fate.
Imagine a letter written to the NYT, suggesting that only an act of God could stop the NYT. Especially one sent from, let's say a red state! We would hear all about those uneducated, violent, militia type persons living in the midwest.
URK! 'either friend OR enemy'.
That first part stuck out at me too, particularly since the reading of the Establishment Clause of the USC as 'separation of church and state' was really popularized after Jefferson's metahphor of a 'wall of separation' was referenced for the first time in the Reynolds v U S USC decision in 1878, well after the cite suggesting newspapers criticizing Lincoln in 1865 onthose grounds.
I can't say I am well schooled in the newspapers of Lincoln's era, except to say that I know that many were very critical of him of course, but that short blurb in this article really screams to be sourced somehow. Did any papers really use the 'separation' challenge to his speech in criticizing it?
Do newspapers employ competent editors? What editor in their right mind would let that slide since it is almost certainly a dubious conclusion (given the first prominent mention of the language of 'separation' in a USC case in 1878). That line screams for a footnote; taken as is, it's not very credible at all.
The fury of the left is somehow satisfying to me. As a Vietnam vet, I had to live through the '70s and '80s when my service was diminished and scorned by the left in media and academia where they all fled to after losing their attempt at revolution in the late 60's. This election has been the final wooden stake in their hearts. I am so glad that Kerry, the traitor, was finally defined honestly by the Swift Boat guys. I now feel that the country has finally said to us (as we all have been saying amongst ourselves these 30 years past) "Welcome Home!"
That remark immediately 'smelled.' I can't say for sure if its untrue or not, but I will say that it doesn't ring true at all and begs for a legit source.
People like Kerry and Fonda have plagued me since the 70s. I have such contempt for them that it's difficult to express it in words. This doesn't mean I hate them. It means that I, as a person who can generally understand where someone is coming from even if I disagree, cannot imagine how someone could sell out their nation the way these two and others did. They are beyond contempt. If these two were not guilty of treason, treason has no meaning.
I have never been a member of the military, but I can tell you I have been embarassed by what happend to you and other vets, for over thirty years no. While this will bring more closure to you than I, not by much my friend.
I will never forgive what was done to you, and the people who participated. No small amount of that feeling comes from my own lack of knowing what I could realisticly do to change what was done, or welcome you home myself. I wasn't as politically active those days, as I am now.
Welcome home. I love you folks.
These ar$sholes!I contacted the FBI and the Secret Service and reported this article to them.
It's in their hands now.
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