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Arctic sea ice not melting: new research
CNEWS Science ^ | April 24, 2001 | By BOB WEBER

Posted on 11/08/2004 11:00:30 PM PST by Exton1

Arctic sea ice not melting: new research

By BOB WEBER-- The Canadian Press


 IQALUIT, Nunavut (CP) -- A Canadian scientist is pouring cold, unfrozen water on the notion that global warming is melting arctic sea ice like a Popsicle at the beach.

 Greg Holloway galvanized an international meeting of arctic scientists Tuesday by saying there is little evidence of a rapid decline of the volume of ice in the northern oceans.

 Despite breathless media reports and speculation of an ice-free Northwest Passage, he suggests that it's far more likely that the ice has just been moved around in the cycles of Arctic winds.

 "It's more complicated than we thought," said Holloway, a scientist with the Institute of Ocean Science in Victoria.

 The original theory was based on declassified records from the trips of U.S. submarines under the ice.

 Satellite pictures have clearly shown that the surface area of the ice has decreased about three per cent a year for the last 20 years.

 But the question was, How thick was it?

 The submarine data generated headlines and cover stories from the New York Times to Time Magazine when it seemed to indicate that ice volume had decreased by 43 per cent between 1958 and 1997.

 The evidence seemed good. There were only eight different voyages, but they had generated 29 different locations across the central Arctic where there were enough readings to make comparisons.

 Holloway, however, couldn't make that conclusion jibe with any of his computer models.

 "We couldn't understand how the reduction could be so rapid," he said.

 "My first thought was, What is it we don't understand?"

 Holloway knew that there was a regular pattern of sea ice being blown into the North Atlantic. He decided to examine if the wind patterns across the circumpolar North could have had something to do with the missing ice.

 Wind patterns blow across the Arctic in a 50-year cycle.

 At different points in the cycle, ice tends to cluster in the centre of the Arctic. At other points, the ice is blown out to the margins along the Canadian shorelines, where the subs were not allowed to go because of sovereignty concerns.

 When Holloway lined up the submarine visits with what he knew about the wind cycles, the explanation for the missing ice became clear: "The submarine sampled ice during a time of oscillation of ice toward the centre of the Arctic. They went back during a time when ice was oscillating to the Canadian side."

 Holloway had found the missing ice.

 "I believe it is most probably explained with the shifting ice within the Arctic locations," he said to applause from scientific delegates from Norway to China.

 If the submarines had made their first visit one year earlier and their return one year later, Holloway says they would have found no change in the thickness of the sea ice at all.

 Holloway cautions that his research doesn't force a total re-evaluation of the theory of global warming. Temperatures on average are rising around the world, he says.

 It does, however, deflate excitement about the possibility of an ice-free Northwest Passage.

 The chance of a year-round northern shipping route has thrilled commercial shippers, worried environmentalists, and concerned those worried about Canada's ability to enforce sovereignty in those waters.

 "At this time, we do not have the basis to predict an open Northwest Passage," said Holloway.

 It also calls into question some of the findings and recommendations of the International Panel on Climate Change, which accepted the 43 per cent hypothesis in its report to various governments.

 More data is coming in as further reports from American and British submarines are released. But the furore over the first results contains a lesson for both scientists and the public, Holloway says.

 "It's a very small amount of time and a very limited number of places those submarines could go," he said.

 "The cautionary tale to all this is the undersimplifying of a big and complex system."

 "Who know what's going on out there?"

 


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KEYWORDS: arctic; bias; climatechange; econuts; environment; globalwarming; icesheets; ipcc; seaice
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To: Seadog Bytes

ROFL! Thanks for the pings!


41 posted on 11/10/2004 12:38:25 AM PST by calcowgirl
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To: Exton1

I'll get excited about "global climate change" whenever somebody can point me to an epoch when global climate has ever remained constant, with no up or down trend, ever in the history of the planet. The only constant in global climate is that it changes.

The question should be: Is global climate changing in a postive or negative direction, from a human point of view, and if we are having an effect on it, are we speeding up or slowing down this change?

The question is not whether some change is happening... the question is: do we prefer the direction it is moving and is there something different we would prefer to do about it?


42 posted on 11/10/2004 12:52:32 AM PST by Ramius (Time? What time do you think we have?)
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To: Exton1

ping


43 posted on 11/10/2004 12:58:40 AM PST by Walkingfeather (q)
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To: timestax

bump


44 posted on 11/10/2004 4:13:30 PM PST by timestax
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To: timestax

Ice cold bump


45 posted on 11/10/2004 6:39:00 PM PST by woofie
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To: woofie
BRRrrrrrrrr !
46 posted on 11/11/2004 1:25:36 PM PST by timestax
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To: timestax

NOT melting


47 posted on 11/12/2004 11:02:09 AM PST by timestax
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To: timestax

PING


48 posted on 11/12/2004 1:35:42 PM PST by timestax
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To: timestax

bttt


49 posted on 11/13/2004 9:55:19 PM PST by timestax
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To: timestax

bump


50 posted on 11/14/2004 7:19:24 AM PST by timestax
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To: Exton1

Actually, I believe little of much research that is based on theory. I am beginning to think that the enviro's need to come up with all these 'Chicken Little' theories in order to make themselves feel relevant or they are in need of more 'Grant Money'.


51 posted on 11/14/2004 7:24:34 AM PST by Dustbunny (The only good terrorist is a dead terrorist)
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To: Dustbunny

I need grant money to do a study on the extent to which arctic sea ice has declined over the last 13,000 years.

The polar ice extent has moved north all the way from south of Chicago 11,000 BC to the arctic circle today. Something is going horribly wrong in the climate with massive global warming.


52 posted on 11/14/2004 7:38:50 AM PST by JustDoItAlways
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