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Immigration: The New Third Rail
frontpagemagazine.com ^ | November 9, 2004 | Michael Reagan

Posted on 11/09/2004 3:44:38 AM PST by ovrtaxt

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Created: Tuesday, November 09, 2004, at 17:21:42 EST
Do you agree with Secretary of State Colin Powell that millions of illegal aliens in the United States should be given legal status?
Yes
  11%
506 votes
No
  89%
3967 votes
Total: 4473 votes
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61 posted on 11/09/2004 6:23:55 PM PST by dcwusmc ("The most dangerous man, to any government, is the man who is able to think things out for himself.)
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To: DallasMike
I'm not sure about the negaitve financial impact--the Texas economy would crumble if all illegals suddenly disappeared overnight.

You are correct. Down here on the border the first to crumble would be H.E.B. the giant food chain in Texas. They probably would take a huge loss without the food stamps, WIC, ect. cards from the illegals. You taxpayers pump in over a billion a year down here. More than 75% of ALL the health care is paid for by the government. One of our hospitals advertise that there are 8,000 babies a year born at that hospital. The OB floor is only 32 beds. Guess who pays for all of this.

62 posted on 11/09/2004 6:32:09 PM PST by texastoo (a "has-been" Republican)
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To: newzjunkey

Thanks for the link. I didn't read any of the articles as they make me sick.


63 posted on 11/09/2004 6:35:51 PM PST by texastoo (a "has-been" Republican)
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To: SierraWasp
Much of the border is in that pathetic condition.

Parts of San Diego County has a "real" barrier as part of "Project Gatekeeper" but once you get into the high desert area, it ends and that's where they cross and the "coyote" smugglers leave their migrants to die. We've got water stations, we pay for billboards in Mexico but the "Latino community" still blames us for these deaths which happen each year to do exposure either freezing to death or dehydrating in the heat.


64 posted on 11/09/2004 6:37:42 PM PST by newzjunkey (San Diego, Kleptocrasy by the Sea. -- VOID the Illegal Mayoral "Election")
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

¡Gracias, señor por el ping-o! Voté para mantener América libre de los ilegales.

Do you agree with Secretary of State Colin Powell that millions of illegal aliens in the United States should be given legal status?

Yes 11% 517 votes

No 89% 4030 votes

Total: 4547 votes


65 posted on 11/09/2004 6:51:26 PM PST by getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL (lib­·er·al - noun: ¹A person who is so open-minded that their brains have fallen out)
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To: FITZ

Nope, it was and is an article of faith with almost all labor unions that unfettered immigration is bad for the American labor movement because it will depress jobs.

The farm workers union wasn't even formed back then. But by the time Chanvez came along, they were too close to the immigrants to take a stand against them.


66 posted on 11/09/2004 6:51:35 PM PST by wildbill
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To: newzjunkey
Linked from stoptheinvasion, this is on my FReeppage:


67 posted on 11/09/2004 6:55:32 PM PST by getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL (lib­·er·al - noun: ¹A person who is so open-minded that their brains have fallen out)
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To: newzjunkey

"Secretary of State Colin Powell said Tuesday that President Bush will place a high priority in his second term on granting legal status to millions of migrants who live illegally in the United States.

Powell spoke at the inaugural session of the U.S.-Mexican Bi-National Commission, which annually brings together top officials from both sides to discuss a range of cross-border issues. Powell was joined here by five other members of Bush's Cabinet.

"The president is committed to comprehensive immigration reform as a high priority in his second term, and he will work closely with our Congress to achieve this goal," Powell said, with delegations from both sides in attendance at a Foreign Ministry auditorium. " (Source: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/news/archive/2004/11/09/international1147EST0542.DTL )

And some people wonder why many of us were loathe to vote for Bush!


68 posted on 11/09/2004 6:59:40 PM PST by dcwusmc ("The most dangerous man, to any government, is the man who is able to think things out for himself.)
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub
RE: Do you agree with Secretary of State Colin Powell that millions of illegal aliens in the United States should be given legal status?
Yes 11% 524 votes
No 89% 4088 votes
Total: 4612 votes

DONE


69 posted on 11/09/2004 7:01:25 PM PST by Seadog Bytes (Benedict Arnold was ALSO a 'war hero'... before he became a Traitor!!!)
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To: wildbill

The labor unions came about after massive immigration in the mid 1800's. Before that time, Americans weren't much attracted to labor unions. Even now we aren't --- union membership is about 10% of the labor force compared with Mexico's union membership of over 70%.

Chavez was against the bracero program and the UFW even went to the border to stop Mexicans from coming over.

The only ones benefitting from very cheap labor are the owner --- but the taxpayers suffer most of all because we have to subsisdize this cheap labor with free health care, education, housing subsidies and a lot more.


70 posted on 11/09/2004 7:16:13 PM PST by FITZ
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To: ovrtaxt

That's what I was just saying last night. "Immigration, the new third rail."


71 posted on 11/09/2004 7:27:36 PM PST by television is just wrong (Our sympathies are misguided with illegal aliens.)
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To: ovrtaxt

And what REALLY pisses me off is the politicians who are are so short sighted that they simply REFUSE to deal with the problem!


72 posted on 11/09/2004 7:28:33 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (God is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

73 posted on 11/09/2004 7:53:44 PM PST by getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL (lib­·er·al - noun: ¹A person who is so open-minded that their brains have fallen out)
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

Thanks for the ping!


74 posted on 11/09/2004 7:56:32 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: FITZ
For some reason he believes he has far greater say than the lowly American people he despises so much.

Since Fox has the ear of George, and George is of like mind he does have a far greater say than the American People...of course you already know this.

In his eyes the average American is just as pathetic as the average Mexican he wishes to rid his country of.

Hard to fault Fox here in a way. He sees how easy it is to lead our own politicians around by the nose and notices that we the people keep on reelecting them no matter how much they sell us out and rightfully concludes We are Weak. And within Mexico's culture of corruption the weak are to be stomped into the ground.

This all is a far cry from the days prior to 1970 when Mexico trembled in fear of its northern ultra super power neighbor and would never dream of attempting to meddle in OUR AFFAIRS. In those days Mexico very much respected America.

Today Mexico's politicos swarm all over America setting up Consular Offices (read Trojan Horses), lobbying our politicians, joining Open Border PACs, infiltrating our media etc. etc. etc. All this to influence our political process to the benefit of Mexico and its thoroughly rotten political class. In word and deed they have nothing but contempt for us.

It's no secret. America is the World's Biggest Sucker.

75 posted on 11/09/2004 8:58:05 PM PST by WRhine
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To: WRhine

Bush acts like he is Fox's bitch. Sorry to be so blunt but that is how I see it.

Ever wonder why around 80% of the country wants something done about this issue yet neither party will even discuss it?

If the FTAA passes in January as planned, then God help us!


76 posted on 11/09/2004 9:02:45 PM PST by Liberalism=MentalDisorder
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To: georgiabelle
I wonder if they could find 10 million pi$$ed off non-paying taxpayers?

Oh in that case the Ruling Fed/Gov would most certainly find everyone of the 10 million PO'd non-paying taxpayers, arrest them, fine them, jail them, asset seizure them until every penny plus penalites are paid. Priorities you know.......

77 posted on 11/09/2004 9:04:43 PM PST by WRhine
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To: georgiabelle
I wonder if they could find 10 million pi$$ed off non-paying taxpayers?

Oh in that case the Ruling Fed/Gov would most certainly find everyone of the 10 million PO'd non-paying taxpayers, arrest them, fine them, jail them, asset seizure them until every penny plus penalites are paid. Priorities you know.......

78 posted on 11/09/2004 9:04:47 PM PST by WRhine
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To: Liberalism=MentalDisorder
Ever wonder why around 80% of the country wants something done about this issue yet neither party will even discuss it?

It's not part of the Beltway Party Agenda. The leadership of both Beltway Parties want Open Borders, One Way Crony Trade deals and near Unlimited Immigration. Any aspiring candidate that wants to be on the "inside" and have a future in their party must embrace this treason or become irrelevent. Corruption rules the roost in DC these days.

79 posted on 11/09/2004 9:17:55 PM PST by WRhine
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub; B4Ranch

Tonk, I'm so glad to see you campaigning on these threads.


80 posted on 11/09/2004 11:32:46 PM PST by risk
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