Posted on 11/09/2004 4:12:20 PM PST by hemi dawg
What about Minnesota, Wisconsin, upstate NY, and Illinois for farm subsidies and don't even get me started on the New England Dairy Compact.
Until Cong Istook took over the Chairmanship of a Committee, Texas, OK, and other Western States paid the federal gasoline taxes and got back less than 50 cents on the dollar with those NE states getting back a lot more than they paid in for gasoline taxes. Western states except for the far West Coast have been paying more into the Feds then they get back for years while places like NYC were bailed out.
O'Donnell and the liberals can "stuff it!"
Let these guys rant. The way they keep dissing the red states will insure that a Democrat (especially Hillary) won't take these states again for YEARS! I'd tell them to shut up..but the more they talk and the more insulting they are, the better able the red states can see the truth: that Liberals want POWER and have no respect for "the little people" they are always championing.
but PhD and Graduate working students went for Kerry..
The lowest and the highest --> Kerry
2 Middle ---> Bush
"The District of Columbia’s Special Status Though not comparable as a state, the District of Columbia is by far the biggest beneficiary of federal spending: In 2003 it received $6.59 in federal outlays for every dollar its taxpayers sent to the U.S. Treasury.
“The District’s share of federal largesse amounted to $60,109 for every man, woman and child,” said Moody. “That’s more than ten times the national average.”
The District of Columbia is about as "Blue" as you can get, without turning "Indigo"!
But, generally speaking, it does look like "Blue States" pay more in taxes and "Red States" are the site of a lot of federal spending. This is for a variety of reasons explained in the article.
Among other things, military bases tend to be located disproportionately in "Red States". And THAT is for a variety of reasons including that the "Blue States" don't WANT military bases. Recall the "bloody murder" screaming by New Yorkers about the Staten Island "Home Port"! (I say let 'em defend themselves against the Rooskies and maurading Canadian Indians!)
But....according to the dims, the Republican party is the party of the "rich", so aren't they shooting down their own arguement?
Oh yeah, they are the Kerry party, the flip-floppers, who can't stay on message
First of Every Month in Baltimore: Grocery stores packed, some people in ckeckout line with carts loaded with filet mignon and shrimp that they pay for with "Independence" Cards. Bars packed. Everyone happy. Streets littered with Gov't manila envelopes.
Looks like the Blues are supporting the Reds:
http://www.taxfoundation.org/sr124.pdf
As far as I know, the biggest contributors to the disproportionate amount of Federal spending in "Red" states are farm subsidies, military spending, and Indian reservations in rural states.
(And I sure HOPE that somebody who's doing brain surgery is very, very smart!)
LOL Yeah, right. First off, I'm an Independent, not a "Buchananite." But most "Buchananites I know are very Conservative...you know, personally responsible, anti-Nanny state individuals. The ignorance is really showing. Just another attempt to smear Conservatives and I suppose many here will buy it.
Blues don't "support" Reds. Business is done in "Downtown", USA. It doesn't mean business owners vote Blue.
New Jersey is an interesting case to me since I live there. It is the most conservative state in the country when it comes to taking Federal money (it takes less per $ than any other state).
It has several military installations (Fort Dix, McGuire AFB, Lakehurst, Picatinny Arsenal, Naval Surface Warfare, Warren Grove Bombing Range) which account for some funding and five National Parks (Delaware Water Gap, Morristown Historical, Liberty, Gateway, Edison), two National Areas (Coastal Heritage Trail, Pinelands Reserve), there are two currently proposed National "Areas" (Highlands & Crossroads of the American Revolution). It has several Interstate highways (I-80, I-280, I-287, I-78, I-278, I-95, I-295) but two of its major highways are seperately toll funded (NJ Turnpike, Garden State Parkway). It has two International airports but I believe both are funded by other means than Federal $$$$ I think the Elizabeth/Newark seaport does recieve some Federal funding. I do not know how much Federal money goes into agricultural subsidies for the state but it could be a significant amount.
New Jersey does a pretty good job of paying its own way and not relying on Federal $$$$.
the vast majority of blue votes come from large central cities, where living off of welfare is quite common.
Once again we see that if you want to know the truth just take what liberals say and turn it upside down.
"We will take things away from you for the common good" - Hitlery
O'Donnell is looking at voters and NOT at taxpayers.
Figures don't lie, liar's figure. When broken out at a macro level (state-by-state) the assertion may appear valid. When viewed at a more refined level (county-by-county) the assumption is all wet. Simply set your sample level to best support your opinion and start cranking the numbers.
That's why I feel, once again, that the Democrats have stolen the terms of the debate. We should be talking about Red and Blue counties instead of Red and Blue states.
Alas, that battle has already been lost to the Democrats. They are simply much better in the arena of public debate. It's a good thing they don't have any salable ideas, because they sure are good salesmen.
If true, some of this comes from road construction projects. They tend to take place in rural areas, while the urban areas are already developed. Also, the Blue states tend to have higher tax rates, higher state spending, and more wealthy people, so there is less slack for the feds to pick up there.
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