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Left-Wing Buchananites(Is it true that you red-staters are living off the public dole?)
Best of the Web Today ^ | November 9, 2004 | James Taranto

Posted on 11/09/2004 4:12:20 PM PST by hemi dawg

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To: jackbill

Upon reflection, a case might be made that the institution of the US Senate accounts for some of the differential. Certainly THE SOUTH has historically had all Democrat Senators, and it was under their rule that the red state spending patterns were established.

Some numbers maven would have to correlate the relative over/under representation with federal spending.

Or maybe high population staters are just more willing to bribe low population staters to allow blue state favorite sons to be in positions of power.


81 posted on 11/09/2004 6:02:05 PM PST by hlmencken3 (Think good and it will be good!)
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To: anonsquared

Thanks for the link. I am still amazed at how ridiculous the left is acting on this. Do they actually think bad mouthing the red states is the way to win the next election? Do they think the Red States are going to so easily forget the insults??

For a group of people who are supposedly smarter they are sure acting dumb.


82 posted on 11/09/2004 6:04:01 PM PST by trashcanbred (Anti-social and anti-socialist)
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To: trashcanbred

>>For a group of people who are supposedly smarter they are sure acting dumb.<<

Key word: Supposedly.

Couldn't agree with ya more!


83 posted on 11/09/2004 6:21:45 PM PST by AJS
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To: hemi dawg

I'm still trying to figure out what Buchanan has to do with this. He always opposed income transfer and big government. He was a constructionist who relied on the Constitution in his support of tariffs, on the theory that a government that had to live off tariffs would be small enough to be harmless.


84 posted on 11/09/2004 6:38:07 PM PST by George W. Bush
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To: hemi dawg

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1275894/posts


85 posted on 11/09/2004 7:01:46 PM PST by BenLurkin (Big government is still a big problem.)
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To: hlmencken3
Upon reflection, a case might be made that the institution of the US Senate accounts for some of the differential. Certainly THE SOUTH has historically had all Democrat Senators, and it was under their rule that the red state spending patterns were established.

Some numbers maven would have to correlate the relative over/under representation with federal spending.

Or maybe high population staters are just more willing to bribe low population staters to allow blue state favorite sons to be in positions of power.

There are lots of explanations for the map.

First, check out Maryland and Virginia. Government employees in the suburbs of DC. Then the farm states - farm subsidies (ethanol and etc.).

Then the states that have a lot of Native Americans - with their subsidies. Not many Indians in Manhattan or the Bronx.

Then states that have large defense suppliers. The data doesn't address how this money is spread through subcontracts to all of the other states.

Then states that have large military installations. Most of them are in the red states. Then consider where most of our veterans and military retirees come from. Not generally from downtown NYC or San Francisco.

And that's just a start.

86 posted on 11/09/2004 7:05:30 PM PST by jackbill
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To: hemi dawg

It's true, however little of that aid is requested, rather most of it is forced on us through threats to cut off other Federal funding such as highway funds.


87 posted on 11/09/2004 7:07:43 PM PST by RightWhale (Destroy the dark; restore the light)
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To: hlmencken3

Check this one out:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1275894/posts

Seems that the states that get the most federal funds are also the states that give the most to charity.


88 posted on 11/09/2004 7:08:50 PM PST by jackbill
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To: hemi dawg

I'd guess that most of us are paying our alloted taxes so that makes it fair. Hasn't that been the mantra for the Dems>Fairness?

Well, we pay our fair share then--and the rich states pay their fair share.

As far as benefits, have the Dems ever said that the wealthy ought to get their fair share of taxes back in the way of benefits? I don't think so.


89 posted on 11/09/2004 7:19:21 PM PST by wildbill
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To: Jeff Head
Bravo Sierra...it is actually the other way around IMHO. Inner cities, represented by the DNC, eat up the lion's share.

I could actually buy it, but it's a trick statement. The Red states tax "subsidies" are, for the most part, originally intended to benefit the Blue. With farm programs, you keep their food cheap. The highway money paves the roads connecting the blue areas and the retired blues (Social Security and Medicare) frequently infec... I mean migrate to the Red states warmer climes.

90 posted on 11/09/2004 7:31:44 PM PST by Axenolith (This space for rent.)
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To: Wonderama

It seems to me that the democrats tried seccession once before.


91 posted on 11/09/2004 8:01:44 PM PST by abigkahuna
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To: hlmencken3
Wow. We are down to 52 cents for every dollar. It used to be something like 67 cents. And still the NJ Democrats in Washington vote against tax cuts...
92 posted on 11/09/2004 8:37:08 PM PST by Question_Assumptions
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To: hemi dawg

Most of the wealthy in the blue states live in red counties....


93 posted on 11/09/2004 11:01:13 PM PST by Ol' Sparky
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To: hemi dawg
Blue states pay a disproportionately high share of federal taxes, while red states receive a disproportionately high share of subsidies.

I'd like to see the same analysis by individual voter or precinct. Exit polls showed that the republicans won the over 50k per year voters.

94 posted on 11/09/2004 11:22:56 PM PST by staytrue
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To: hemi dawg
A little off topic, (actually, totally off topic), but look:

It's a Hemi Dog!

95 posted on 11/09/2004 11:32:51 PM PST by BikerTrash (Enough already with the carnival freak show...bring back COOL!)
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To: drc43

Billions of dollars continue to be confiscated from all US taxpayers because the affluent left in Boston won't own up and pay. It's a stupid plan. Why is traffic going to be better by burying the same volume underground in a tunnel that leaks?

Even Ted Kennedy doesn't want to hear about the Big Dig anymore because it means he gets no more freebies out of the Senate.

Boston harbor remained a mess for years because PeeWee Dukakis couldn't bring himself to clean it up by billing the people who made it dirty.


96 posted on 11/10/2004 4:25:18 AM PST by saveliberty (Liberal= in need of therapy, but would rather ruin lives of those less fortunate to feel good)
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To: xkaydet65

Wow! Excellent information! Thank you.


97 posted on 11/10/2004 4:26:44 AM PST by saveliberty (Liberal= in need of therapy, but would rather ruin lives of those less fortunate to feel good)
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To: hlmencken3
Those numbers include military bases in the tax expenditures don't they?
98 posted on 11/10/2004 5:48:19 AM PST by nonkultur
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To: BikerTrash

super-cool photo! Thanks! I want that Dawg!!


99 posted on 11/10/2004 6:39:17 AM PST by hemi dawg
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To: hemi dawg

If I'm not too behind the times, I believe agriculture is the number one industry in America. And the majority of that industry is in the red states.

In addition to feeding the blue states, excepting of course their truffles, caviar, imported French wines, and certain smelly cheeses, we also help feed a considerable portion of the world with our surplus agricultural production..

Furthermore, agricultural commodities are the backbone of our exports. Without them, the import/export balance of trade would be insupportable. Most of the trade that passes through our coastal ports and through the blue enclaves along our rivers is produced in the red states.


100 posted on 11/10/2004 8:39:34 AM PST by wildbill
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