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Japan Navy Mobilized After Mystery Submarine Spotted
Yahoo ^ | George Nishiyama -- Reuters

Posted on 11/10/2004, 1:46:26 PM by Michael Goldsberry

TOKYO (Reuters) - The Japanese navy was mobilized on Wednesday for the first time in five years after an unidentified submarine was spotted in waters off Japan.

The intrusion was brief and no warning shot was fired, the government said, but the mobilization was a rare display of the country's military capability, long constrained by a pacifist constitution.

A navy P3C patrol plane spotted the submarine near the Okinawa islands, 1,600 km (1,000 miles) southwest of Tokyo, in an area close to another series of islets at the heart of a territorial dispute between Japan and China.

A second P3C plane, at least two Japanese destroyers and a helicopter were dispatched to the area, Japanese media said.

Media reports said Tokyo believed the submarine belonged to the Chinese navy, but government officials said they were still trying to confirm its nationality.

"It is regrettable. It is certainly not a good thing that an unidentified submarine entered our country's territorial waters," Prime Minister Junichiro Koizumi told reporters.

Media reports said that the order to the navy to mobilize -- giving it powers to fire in self-defense or forcibly change the submarine's course -- was issued more than three hours after the intruder was spotted and after it had left Japanese waters.

It is possible the submarine was having trouble, Kyodo news agency said, quoting navy officials.

Kyodo said the navy had spotted two vessels of the Chinese navy on Friday in the area near where the submarine was seen. One was designed to rescue submarines and the other to tow ships.

The last time the navy was mobilized was in 1999 when a suspected North Korean spy ship violated Japanese waters.

The Japan Coast Guard is in charge of the security of the country's coastline and waters, and the navy is ordered into action only when the government perceives a threat to lives or a security beyond the powers of the Coast Guard to handle.

CHILLY RELATIONS

Japan's top government spokesman, Hiroyuki Hosoda, said a Japanese navy patrol plane continued to track the submarine.

Media reports said it was heading toward the Chinese coast.

Relations between China and Japan are chilly.

China, occupied by Japan in the 1930s and 1940s, is upset by Koizumi's annual visits to honor war dead at a Tokyo shrine and the two countries have a long-running dispute over the Senkaku Islands in the East China Sea, some 200 km (124 miles) northwest of the area where the submarine was found.

The islands, known in China as the Diaoyu Islands, are controlled by Japan but also claimed by Taiwan.

Tokyo and Beijing are also at odds over a Chinese gas field project in a disputed part of the East China Sea, where Chinese research and naval ships have repeatedly entered Japan's exclusive economic waters without prior notice.

China criticized Japan's defense ministry on Tuesday over a discussion paper outlining scenarios under which Chinese forces might attack Japan, saying it revealed a lingering Cold War mentality.

Wednesday's incident comes just two weeks after Japan hosted an international maritime exercise aimed at stopping the spread of weapons of mass destruction. Officials made it clear they were most concerned about North Korea (news - web sites).

Apart from China, other navies in the area with submarines include North Korea, South Korea (news - web sites), Taiwan and Russia.

Earlier on Wednesday, South Korea's military said it had sent three warning messages to North Korea after a North Korean patrol boat briefly crossed their disputed maritime border.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News
KEYWORDS: asw; orion; p3c; submarine
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1 posted on 11/10/2004, 1:46:26 PM by Michael Goldsberry
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To: Leapfrog

I'm sure the Chinese will lodge a complaint while swearing the sub was not their's.


2 posted on 11/10/2004, 1:48:13 PM by AppyPappy (If You're Not A Part Of The Solution, There's Good Money To Be Made In Prolonging The Problem.)
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To: Leapfrog; AmericanInTokyo; TigerLikesRooster
We are now taking bets the nationality of the sub:

North Korean
Chinese
Add to list

3 posted on 11/10/2004, 1:48:35 PM by jriemer (We are a Republic not a Democracy)
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To: jriemer

Well, we count Canada out. We've all seen their subs in action lately.


4 posted on 11/10/2004, 1:49:58 PM by ChuckShick (He's clerking for me...)
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To: Leapfrog
Mad Man, Mad Man, Mad Man!
Torp away, Now, Now, Now!
5 posted on 11/10/2004, 1:50:15 PM by grobdriver
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To: jriemer

I'll take china for $10.


6 posted on 11/10/2004, 1:51:03 PM by Fierce Allegiance (Stay safe in the "sandbox" Greg!)
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To: jriemer
We are now taking bets the nationality of the sub:

North Korean
Chinese
Add to list

I'll take PLAN, with some covering action on NK :-)

7 posted on 11/10/2004, 1:51:13 PM by steveegg (Use the nuclear option in the Senate, Frist.)
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To: Leapfrog

Thats all it takes for something bigger than we want to errupt. Keep them damn U boats away from Japan. The US cannot afford a two front war at this time.


8 posted on 11/10/2004, 1:51:31 PM by ruready4eternity (Carpet Bomb FALLUJAH!)
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To: Leapfrog
BANZAI! BANZAI! BANZAI!
9 posted on 11/10/2004, 1:51:44 PM by P8riot (A gun is just a substitute for a penis, so when attacked by a mugger one should pull out a..........)
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To: Leapfrog
Its about time the jappers started taking responsibility for their defense...
10 posted on 11/10/2004, 1:51:54 PM by aspiring.hillbilly
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To: ruready4eternity

I say Chinese , but this wil be swepth under the rug as a troubled sub off course. Hey it's the old retired British Subs bought by Canada, Someone get some help in there!


11 posted on 11/10/2004, 1:53:22 PM by ruready4eternity (Carpet Bomb FALLUJAH!)
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To: Poohbah; hchutch

250-decibel ping :-)


12 posted on 11/10/2004, 1:53:45 PM by steveegg (Use the nuclear option in the Senate, Frist.)
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To: jriemer
Mongolia? Bolivia? ahhhh, Switzerland
13 posted on 11/10/2004, 1:53:45 PM by chilepepper (The map is not the territory -- Alfred Korzybski)
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To: aspiring.hillbilly

There was a reason why Japan was carefully defanged after WWII - they were entirely too good at warfare.

Well, they have had a chance to detoxify from the effect of their 1930s militarism. So yes, they should rearm.


14 posted on 11/10/2004, 1:56:29 PM by agere_contra (You are worthless ... Alec Baldwin ...)
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To: Leapfrog

The Japs need to change their constitution
(sorry pop I know you wouldn't like me saying this after Pearl Harbor and Bataan and all)


15 posted on 11/10/2004, 1:57:01 PM by joesnuffy ("The merit of our Constitution was, not that it promotes democracy, but checks it." Horatio Seymour)
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To: Leapfrog

The good news is that their ASW skills look pretty sharp.


16 posted on 11/10/2004, 1:58:05 PM by wildcatf4f3 (out of the sun)
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To: jriemer

India


17 posted on 11/10/2004, 1:58:07 PM by bert (Peace is only halftime !)
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To: ruready4eternity

The Japenese martime Self Defense Force is in fact the third of fourth, I forget which, largest navy in the world. Their ships are the equivalent of ours and use many of the same systems. IE they are more then capable to protect their home waters.


18 posted on 11/10/2004, 2:01:27 PM by TXBSAFH (Never underestimate the power of human stupidity--Robert Heinlein)
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To: Leapfrog

Japan doesn't have a "navy", it has a self defense maritime association ;-)


19 posted on 11/10/2004, 2:01:33 PM by Cronos (W2K4)
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To: Leapfrog

Heh that's in my back yard here on Okinawa.


20 posted on 11/10/2004, 2:02:06 PM by ONETWOONE (onetwoone)
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