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Personal Response to TYPICAL ANTI-GUN article in Arizona Republic
November 10, 2004 | CSADOC

Posted on 11/10/2004 10:50:55 AM PST by DocH

I tried to post the anti-gun article, titled "Don't relax, assault weapons are near you - Alleged plot case puts high-powered issue in spotlight" located at , but due to copyright complaints, it is not allowed. If you have missed the anti-gun bleating of the left during the election cycle, go to the above url and read this drivel. Then, do as I did and write this anti-gun GOOFBALL a "nasty gram". Here is the letter I wrote him...

Dear Mr. Thomason, I just read your article, "Don't relax, assault weapons are near you" online. Since democrats figured they'd best refrain from trashing guns, gun owners, and our 2nd Amendment during an important election cycle in order to have ANY hope of winning ANY office; and since the so-called "Assault Weapons Ban" was allowed to sunset due to its ineffectiveness at doing ANYTHING other than harassing and inconveniencing law-abiding citizens (it had absolutely NO impact on crime and criminals), I have come to expect a dearth of articles supporting gun control in any of its many forms. Thank you for reminding me that an irrational enemy of our 2nd Amendment freedoms is still out there, lurking about and ready to continue the incremental march towards licensing, registration, and eventual confiscation. You are also guilty of trying to revive and spread the same old, tired anti-gun LIES and DISTORTIONS as your ilk has for YEARS. You TRY to suggest that this miscreant, Dugan, had easy access to the weapon he acquired BECAUSE we don't have the the so-called "Assault Weapons Ban" anymore. The FACT is, that the Clinton semi-auto ban was a largely COSMETIC ban that affected the manufacture, sale, and ownership semi-auto firearms with certain features, AND that these type of weapons owned or manufactured BEFORE the ban went into effect were allowed to be owned and purchased. In other words, the very type of rifle that Dugan acquired, could have been acquired through legal means EVEN IF the ban had been renewed. Used weapons of this type were available ALL DURING the TEN YEARS the ban was in effect, and new ones with minor cosmetic modifications (allowed and PERFECTLY LEGAL under the law) could have been legally purchased by any qualified buyer during this time period.

Additonally, you demonstrate your ignorance on this issue by stating that these type of weapons are "high-powered" and "powerful enough to rip through bulletproof vests worn by most police officers." The VAST MAJORITY of these type of firearms, including the one you describe in your article, are NOT "high-powered", and in FACT, are less powerful than the average DEER HUNTING RIFLE found in MILLIONS of homes around the country (most of these also are capable of greater accuracy since they have rifle scopes mounted on them). The 7.62 x 39, and 5.56 x 45 cartridges (as used by many armed forces in the world) are actually in the MIDDLE of the power and range spectrum. In FACT, the 5.56 NATO round used in our troops M16 and M4 weapons is called the .223 Remington in the civilian world. Being a .22 caliber round, it is not considered sufficient enough to be used for DEER hunting in many states. As far as being able to pierce a policeman's vest, almost ANY rifle round can do that, and in fact, this FACT has been used in a disingenous effort by anti-gun liberals in congress to try and BAN a whole class of rifle (read that HUNTING) rounds. Fortunately, knowledgeable PRO-GUN & PRO-2nd Amendment congressman, lobbyists, industry reps, and citizens like me that make up the NRA see through these types of anti-gun ploys and shut them down as quickly as possible.

While the ignorance of the left-wing media on gun issues is somewhat understandable, your blatant misrepresentations that can not be attributed to ignorance, are beyond the pale. You CONTINUE to try and fool the public into believing that a SEMI-automatic weapon, of the type that Dugan had (a ROMARM), is the SAME "type of weapon used in many military arsenals, including those of terrorists, according to news reports". News reported by who? The left-wing media has been LYING about guns and gun owners for DECADES, so if your reporting is from them, or worse, from the likes of the Brady Bunch (formerly known as Handgun Control, Inc.) or the Violence Policy Center, then you are just spreading LIES and DISTORTIONS. I beliveve it was The Million (they OBVIOUSLY can't count) Mom March who recently had a campaign to renew the SEMI-AUTO ban by using a graphic of Usama Bin Laden with his ACTUAL, FULLY-AUTOMATIC AK-47 assault rifle. And it was ABC Nightly News that, during a report on the SEMI-AUTO ban, showed audio and video of the North Hollywood bank robbers firing FULLY-AUTOMATIC weapons. LIES and PROPAGANDA designed to turn public opinion to support Clinton's useless (from a crime fighting perspective) and 2nd Amendment infringing semi-auto ban.

Also, you, and your ilk, continue to bring up Columbine for its EMOTIONAL impact on this issue. This is a CHEAP, DISGUSTING, and DISINGENUOUS use of a tragedy to help further your anti-gun agenda. Fortunately, your attempts to push more gun control on the law-abiding citizens of America is doomed to fail. Unlike Canada, Australia, and Mediocre (formerly Great) Britain, the American people are NOT knee-jerk, reactionary WIMPS when it comes to our traditions, rights, and way of life. An unfortunate, extremely RARE tragedy involving firearms (such as Columbine) will NOT sway us into diminishing or removing our 2nd Amendment RIGHTS. Just as a terrorist attack would not sway us into voting for weaklings, appeasers, or pacifists (as they did in Spain), an occasional tragedy involving the misuse of firearms by a criminal, terrorist, or crazed individual will NOT result in AMERICANS rejecting their 2nd Amendment RIGHTS in part or in full.

Lastly, as a former active duty Marine involved in the training of Marine reservists (for a total of 4 1/2 years of my 12 years on active duty), MANY of whom were police officers (on both coasts, I had Marines that served as police officers/deputies with the L.A.P.D., L.A.Sheriffs Dept., Atlanta P.D., and Macon, GA P.D., to name a few), I KNOW that MOST rank and file STREET cops support the RIGHT of law-abiding citizens (INCLUDING themselves when they are off-duty, or when they quit or retire) to keep and bear these type of firearms. If there is ANY support for a ban like this, it is mainly from inner-city police chiefs who have been appointed by left-wing, anti-gun mayors. These big city chiefs are NOT the average cop on the beat, but are mere liberal politicians and admin types (pencil pushers, desk jockeys, etc.) with badges and guns. I am glad that you did include, in your article, the opinion of the Gilbert police department on these wepaons and the 2nd Amendment. This is the opinion of the VAST MAJORITY of police officers that make a real difference in our communities, NOT that of the left-wing chiefs and union thugs.

- "Doc" Atlanta, GA


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: assaultweapons; banglist; gun; secondamendment
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1 posted on 11/10/2004 10:50:56 AM PST by DocH
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To: DocH

what link above?


2 posted on 11/10/2004 10:54:54 AM PST by SFC Chromey (13 months in Iraq and of COURSE I voted for BUSH!)
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To: DocH; .45MAN; backhoe; FreedomPoster; Vigilantcitizen; humblegunner; Eaker; HairOfTheDog; ...

Excellent screed - you *rock* Doc!


3 posted on 11/10/2004 10:57:16 AM PST by dansangel (Thank You GOD for answering our prayers!)
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To: DocH

Here's the link to the original article:

http://www.azcentral.com/news/columns/articles/1110gr-thomason10Z6.html


4 posted on 11/10/2004 10:57:54 AM PST by Atlas Sneezed (Your Friendly Freeper Patent Attorney)
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To: SFC Chromey

Sorry, I had the link in the body of my message, and it got stripped away when I posted. Must have something to do with the copyright complaints of Arizona Republic that did not allow me to post the article in the first place.


5 posted on 11/10/2004 10:59:10 AM PST by DocH (Release ALL your Navy records AND your private journal Kerry!)
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To: dansangel; DocH

Bravo! Take no prisoners.


6 posted on 11/10/2004 10:59:30 AM PST by backhoe ("We met at Dawn- and destiny Prevailed...")
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To: Beelzebubba

Thanks for properly posting the link Beelzebubba.


7 posted on 11/10/2004 10:59:55 AM PST by DocH (Release ALL your Navy records AND your private journal Kerry!)
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To: dansangel

Thanks dansangel.

If I had more time I could really bust his balls, but I'm doing my best, with limited time, to keep these anti-gun, anti-2nd Amendment, anti-freedom, anti-AMERICAN bastards on the RUN, and I'm hoping other American Patriots (of the type that are on Free Republic) will do the same.

By the way, as a former Marine, OOHRAH, Semper Fi, and Happy Birthday to all of my fellow Marines, ESPECIALLY those putting it all on the line for all of us right now.


8 posted on 11/10/2004 11:03:58 AM PST by DocH (Release ALL your Navy records AND your private journal Kerry!)
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To: DocH

BTTT


9 posted on 11/10/2004 11:05:05 AM PST by Fiddlstix (This Tagline for sale. (Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: backhoe

Thanks backhoe. A take-no-prisoners attitude is all these bastards understand.


10 posted on 11/10/2004 11:05:26 AM PST by DocH (Release ALL your Navy records AND your private journal Kerry!)
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To: DocH

Thank *you* for your service to our country and your continued war against the gun-grabbers.

I think you did a *superb* job of "busting his balls" - LOL!

Happy Birthday to our wonderful U.S. Marine Corps!


11 posted on 11/10/2004 11:07:43 AM PST by dansangel (Thank You GOD for answering our prayers!)
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To: DocH; Travis McGee
Excellent.

Doc, have you read Freeper Travis Mcgee's novel "Enemies Foriegn and Domestic"?

Click here for info.

12 posted on 11/10/2004 11:09:34 AM PST by Vigilantcitizen (#40)
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To: DocH

Way to keep those matches burning between their toes!


13 posted on 11/10/2004 11:10:45 AM PST by SFC Chromey (13 months in Iraq and of COURSE I voted for BUSH!)
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To: DocH

Having every tenth word CAPITALIZED really does NOTHING for your writing and makes it look STUPID and IMMATURE.


14 posted on 11/10/2004 11:11:16 AM PST by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: DocH
"Don't relax, assault weapons are near you."

Yep. There's two of them downstairs in my gunsafe right now.

15 posted on 11/10/2004 11:15:47 AM PST by elmer fudd
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To: Vigilantcitizen

Thanks, and yes, I've read it, and similar books, "Unintended Consequences", and "Patriots, Surviving The Coming Collapse". All motivating books regarding supporting and actually DEFENDING our 2nd Amendment rights.


16 posted on 11/10/2004 11:18:49 AM PST by DocH (Release ALL your Navy records AND your private journal Kerry!)
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To: FreedomCalls

I don't really care for your grammer coaching, or what you, or anyone else THINKS about my level of maturity. I am a 47 year old man that is reasonably smart (123 GCT score on ASVAB, some college, school of hard knocks for 12 years in USMC),votes intelligently and served his country in an active duty combat MOS in the Marine Corps.


17 posted on 11/10/2004 11:24:04 AM PST by DocH (Release ALL your Navy records AND your private journal Kerry!)
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To: DocH
Thank you for taking this terribly misinformed/uninformed man to task for his illucid rant! All of us must take action when we see these things appear in print.

Thanks also for your service to our country--and happy birthday to the USMC!


18 posted on 11/10/2004 11:25:53 AM PST by basil
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To: FreedomCalls

And YES, I KNOW it's "grammar", vice "grammer". Get a life.


19 posted on 11/10/2004 11:26:45 AM PST by DocH (Release ALL your Navy records AND your private journal Kerry!)
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To: basil

Thanks for the great comments. Also, thank YOU for YOUR service in the SAS!


20 posted on 11/10/2004 11:31:39 AM PST by DocH (Release ALL your Navy records AND your private journal Kerry!)
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