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'The West Needs to Understand It Is Inevitable: Islam Is Coming Back'
The Guardian ^ | November 11, 2004 | Faisal al Yafai

Posted on 11/10/2004 5:21:45 PM PST by quidnunc

Talking to Britain's most radical Islamic group, banned across the Middle East, about faith, defiance and the future

The east London hall echoes to the sound of the speaker's voice: "They want us to redefine Islam to fit the agenda of the west," he intones, and the audience murmurs. "Islam is going to be political, no matter how hard they try. Islam itself is political. Allah has not remained silent when it comes to political matters."

The speaker is a member of Hizb ut Tahrir, the most controversial Islamic group in Britain today. Critics have called for the group to be banned, as it is in Germany, while supporters hail it as the saviour of the Muslim community. Hizb — the name means Party of Liberation in Arabic — is banned throughout the Middle East, and three British men are in jail in Egypt accused of propagating its views. In Uzbekistan, thousands of Hizb members are in jail, and a Russian thinktank has compared the group to al-Qaida.

Eighteen months ago, the group briefly appeared in the public eye when the wife of Omar Sharif, the Briton who launched a failed suicide-bomb attack in Tel Aviv, was found to have leaflets from the group in her home. Hizb ut Tahrir also has a presence on university campuses, where it has been accused of anti-semitism.

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(Excerpt) Read more at guardian.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Editorial; Extended News; Politics/Elections; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: europeanmuslims; hizbuttahrir; jihadineurope; wakeup
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1 posted on 11/10/2004 5:21:45 PM PST by quidnunc
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To: quidnunc
Islamonazi swatter:


2 posted on 11/10/2004 5:25:25 PM PST by 45Auto (Big holes are (almost) always better.)
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To: quidnunc
"Islam is going to be political, no matter how hard they try. Islam itself is political. Allah has not remained silent when it comes to political matters."

Very well. That being the case, and the "political" nature of Islam being that it seeks only to expand its empire, we in the West reserve the right to fight against political Islam, i.e. Islamist imperialism.

"Political" Islamists need to understand that. It is inevitable.

3 posted on 11/10/2004 5:25:32 PM PST by Dr. Frank fan
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To: 45Auto

Hmmmm. That doesn't look like the California-legal neutered variety.


4 posted on 11/10/2004 5:26:31 PM PST by .38sw
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To: quidnunc

5 posted on 11/10/2004 5:27:03 PM PST by bikepacker67 ("This is the best election night in history." -- DNC chairman Terry McAuliffe 11/2/04 8pm)
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To: quidnunc

You have crossed a tragic threshold and your misbegotten idiocy will be systematically and entirely eradicated. All that might remain will be regarded as acts of fools...mere nuisance.


6 posted on 11/10/2004 5:28:35 PM PST by CBart95
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To: 45Auto

Very nice.


7 posted on 11/10/2004 5:28:47 PM PST by eagle11 (Conservatives are Red, Liberals are Blue.....let's come together so we can....?)
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To: quidnunc

I would not even house break a dog with the pages of the offal Guardian....Its leftist stench continues to stain the journalistic world.


8 posted on 11/10/2004 5:29:45 PM PST by democrats_nightmare
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To: bikepacker67

That was a mean picture to post. I am lacking meat substances tonight.


9 posted on 11/10/2004 5:29:48 PM PST by HungarianGypsy (Envision getting off your hippie butt and getting a job.)
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To: Dr. Frank fan

I'm glad they've defined Islam as political, can we consider them a military target?


10 posted on 11/10/2004 5:30:00 PM PST by eagle11 (Conservatives are Red, Liberals are Blue.....let's come together so we can....?)
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To: Dr. Frank fan

I have a close friend from India where he had the dubious fortune of observing muslims for decades. His favorite phrase? "There are no moderates." I agree with him.


11 posted on 11/10/2004 5:30:09 PM PST by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
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To: quidnunc
"Islam is going to be political, no matter how hard they try. Islam itself is political. Allah has not remained silent when it comes to political matters."

I guess that is why GWB has 4 more years to darken the sky with their ashes......

13 posted on 11/10/2004 5:30:43 PM PST by dirtbiker (Solution for Terrorism: Nuke 'em 'till they glow, then shoot 'em in the dark!)
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To: quidnunc

Say the word allah breath.


14 posted on 11/10/2004 5:31:04 PM PST by leadpencil1 (Theo Van Gogh = Archduke Franz Ferdinand. Let the dominos fall.)
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To: quidnunc

Islam needs to understand that there are countless millions who are prepared to make Muslims die on their feet- for we will not live on our knees.


15 posted on 11/10/2004 5:32:00 PM PST by ClearBlueSky (Whenever someone says it's not about Islam-it's about Islam. Jesus loves you, Allah wants you dead!)
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To: eagle11

When do I get to launch something, huh? I wanna launch a missle, c'mon daddy you promised, kenni,kenni,kenni please?!


16 posted on 11/10/2004 5:32:44 PM PST by wildcatf4f3 (out of the sun)
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To: ClearBlueSky

Say..when was the gatling gun invented???


17 posted on 11/10/2004 5:33:05 PM PST by samadams2000
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To: HungarianGypsy
That was a mean picture to post. I am lacking meat substances tonight.

What??? you're carnally impaired?

18 posted on 11/10/2004 5:33:11 PM PST by bikepacker67 ("This is the best election night in history." -- DNC chairman Terry McAuliffe 11/2/04 8pm)
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To: quidnunc

I believe that the historical collective memory and guilt of the crimes of the Nazi holocaust as perpetrated by white europeans on a defenseless subculture in the name of state security will be the West's Achilles' heal that will be exploited by the left to facilitate islamization of the West and shame the soon to be occupied western nations into eventual social/cultural/political submission. And yes, Islam does mean submission.


19 posted on 11/10/2004 5:34:15 PM PST by SpaceBar
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To: quidnunc
We don't want to "redefine" Islam....we want it to end. Politically if possible...by force if necessary. And your fellow worshipers have made it necessary to use force. Hold on to your camel Ahkmed that sound you hear is a MOAB going off. But look at the bright side...you have a new "holey" site. Lotsa holes for you Ahkmed...lotsa holes.
20 posted on 11/10/2004 5:34:29 PM PST by JediForce (To gloat or not to gloat ? That question is far to easy to be on the Global Test. GLOAT ! :-))
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