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Health minister warns that Canada cannot be 'the drug store of the United States'
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Posted on 11/10/2004 7:18:49 PM PST by maui_hawaii

BOSTON - Canada's health minister said Wednesday that his country "cannot be the drug store of the United States" - a warning that comes as several states are pushing to buy low-cost prescription drugs north of the border.

"It is difficult for me to conceive of how a small country like Canada could meet the prescription drug needs of approximately 280 million Americans without putting our own supply at serious risk," Health Minister Ujjal Dosanjh said in prepared text for a speech at Harvard Medical School.

Business has been booming for Canadian Internet pharmacies that take orders from Americans looking to buy Canadian drugs made less expensive by government price controls. Busloads of Americans cross the border to take advantage of Canadian drug prices that can be as much as 80 percent lower in some instances, according to a congressional study.

Dosanjh said Canadian health officials have found no evidence so far of shortages in Canada, but he predicted potential problems down the road if demand increases.

"To me it is a matter of common sense that Canada cannot be the drug store of the United States," he said. "Neither American consumers nor Canadian suppliers should have any illusions otherwise."


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1 posted on 11/10/2004 7:18:49 PM PST by maui_hawaii
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To: maui_hawaii

Don't you love it when a plan comes together?!


2 posted on 11/10/2004 7:19:34 PM PST by zzen01
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To: maui_hawaii
Health Minister Ujjal Dosanjh

Ujjal what?

3 posted on 11/10/2004 7:22:10 PM PST by xJones
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To: zzen01

Heh heh.


4 posted on 11/10/2004 7:22:25 PM PST by 383rr (Those who choose security over liberty deserve neither-)
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To: maui_hawaii
Already, overwhelmed Canadian mail order pharmacies are shipping unregulated Russian and Indian medicines to meet demand, medications that cannot legally be sold in Canada due to dreadful quality and purity. They are being transhipped from the West Indies.

Caveat Emptor.

5 posted on 11/10/2004 7:23:16 PM PST by FormerACLUmember (Free Republic is 21st Century Samizdat)
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To: xJones

Indian name. Canada has a large Indian minority and they're doing quite well, politically at least.


6 posted on 11/10/2004 7:24:14 PM PST by AM2000
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To: zzen01

I was thinking the exact same thing.


7 posted on 11/10/2004 7:25:19 PM PST by maui_hawaii
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To: maui_hawaii
This person is either ignorant or dealing with some other problem. I suspect the latter. Because all these drugs are US drugs in the first place. We ship them up there, but they have a price cap on them. So our consumers want to buy them.

The US consumer currently subsidizes the Canadian's drugs because our consumers pay higher prices to offset the loss of profits the drug companies have to deal with in Canada due to the price caps. If all US consumers start purchasing from Canada then there is nobody left here in the US to subsidize the Canadian system.
8 posted on 11/10/2004 7:26:01 PM PST by Arkinsaw
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To: FormerACLUmember
Aren't most of these drugs American made already?

doesn't it just kill you to have to go begging to Canada for drugs that we manufacture here.....it does me.....

9 posted on 11/10/2004 7:26:18 PM PST by cherry
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To: maui_hawaii
Yeah, This is the calculus that I could not understand, by the Left. If Canada were to become a source of 'scrip drugs for the US, the dynamic created would actually increase Canadian prices and not lower US prices. Come on, think about it. Pharmaceutical execs aren't stupid.
10 posted on 11/10/2004 7:26:25 PM PST by RedLightBob (God is smiling on US)
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"It is difficult for me to conceive of how a small country like Canada could meet the prescription drug needs of approximately 280 million Americans without putting our own supply at serious risk," Health Minister Ujjal Dosanjh said in prepared text for a speech at Harvard Medical School.

:-} I've been saying the same thing for quite some time now. Canada's pharmeceutical industry is a 5 billion dollar industry, Americas is about 135 billion. Neither the numbers or the workings of markets adds up. Its a joke.

11 posted on 11/10/2004 7:28:45 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: maui_hawaii
I dont see how 280 million americans can keep carrying 30 million Canadian free loaders on our defense budget.
12 posted on 11/10/2004 7:29:07 PM PST by cynicom (<p)
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To: FormerACLUmember

It doesn't matter if the drugs are any good. It doesn't even matter whether anyone is developing new drugs. All that matters is that they are cheap and affordable.


13 posted on 11/10/2004 7:29:09 PM PST by Larry Lucido
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But if demand went down for drugs in the US (because so many Americans were buying them in Canada) wouldn't that cause prices to go down in the US? All it would take is one company to buckle and sell their drugs at a lower price. Competitors would follow.


14 posted on 11/10/2004 7:30:12 PM PST by BikerNYC
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To: cherry

Yes, Canada makes very little in the way of its own medications, extorting most of them at below market rates from US manufacturers. I wonder if we are going to see an Atlas Shrugged response from US Pharma.


15 posted on 11/10/2004 7:32:07 PM PST by FormerACLUmember (Free Republic is 21st Century Samizdat)
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To: Larry Lucido
It doesn't matter if the drugs are any good. It doesn't even matter whether anyone is developing new drugs. All that matters is that they are cheap and affordable

You were sarcastic, but you just gave a pretty good definition of brain dead Marxism.

16 posted on 11/10/2004 7:34:16 PM PST by FormerACLUmember (Free Republic is 21st Century Samizdat)
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To: BikerNYC

I am not so sure. Besides "competition" is limited by way of patents which last for effectively 20 years.


17 posted on 11/10/2004 7:38:44 PM PST by RedLightBob (God is smiling on US)
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To: maui_hawaii

I would like to know if the people in Canada who purchase prescriptions have the right to sue the drug manufacturers if something untoward happens to them after taking the meds. If they DON'T, then I understand completely why meds are so much cheaper in Canada; the vendor doesn't have to bear the cost of malpractice lawsuits like those in the US that have driven some drugs completely off the market and made others horridly expensive.


18 posted on 11/10/2004 7:45:20 PM PST by SuziQ (Bush in 2004-Because we are Americans!!!!)
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But if demand went down for drugs in the US (because so many Americans were buying them in Canada) wouldn't that cause prices to go down in the US? All it would take is one company to buckle and sell their drugs at a lower price. Competitors would follow.

The price in the USA is what the drug company wants to charge, based on their revenue needs (for profit and R&D), and the competitive climate for that drug. US companies decide if they want to sell a decent amount of a drug to Canada, knowing that a lower price is demanded. As long as the variable product costs and some of the normal overhead allocation is covered, companies are willing to meet the demanded price. If not, some foreign company will do so.

As an earlier poster mentioned, you may not be getting what you think you bought from Canada, and there are many drugs from suspicious origins. It is NOT that you are only getting the US manufactured drug. The US companies might not sell to Canada over certain amounts, if they think that the drugs are coming back to the states in large numbers. Then the Canadians will require proof of resedency to get their drugs. There is no free lunch.

19 posted on 11/10/2004 7:46:40 PM PST by DmBarch
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It has seemed obvious to me for a while now that Canada could NEVER supply ALL of the USA with the quantities of drugs they would need if these plans took off.

The FLU vaccine as an example... With Canada's entire population only ONE TENTH of the USA, they might have ordered enough of the vaccine for their own needs, but probably no more than 20% OVER their needs. And 20% of Canada's population would only be 2% of the US population.

Now if just a few border states like WA, MN, MI, NY try to get a portion of their drug needs from Canada, there might be enough. Make it a nationwide operation and they will quickly run out. The US drug companies KNOW how much Canada needs for their own citizens. They're not going to let them be middlemen to undercut their own sales in the USA.

Its more likely the drugs being sold mail-order to the USA will then largely be counterfeits made in Pakistan or Sudan.

20 posted on 11/10/2004 7:47:01 PM PST by Future Useless Eater (FreedomLoving_Engineer)
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