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Low profile for German Koran challenger
Swiss Info ^ | November 11, 2004 | Tom Heneghan, Religion Editor

Posted on 11/11/2004 1:18:36 PM PST by Nachum

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This guy isn't long for this world.
1 posted on 11/11/2004 1:18:36 PM PST by Nachum
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For example, he says the Koranic passage promising men "virgins" in heaven -- often cited as a supposed incentive for male suicide bombers -- really used a word for "white raisins".

...hmmm...now where have I heard something about white raisins, lately?

2 posted on 11/11/2004 1:23:14 PM PST by weenie (This is a war between the forces of good and evil. Humans are only pawns.)
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To: Nachum

The islamo-nuts will find him and kill him too.

There is not talking with there murderers...


3 posted on 11/11/2004 1:24:08 PM PST by dinok
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To: dinok

I don't think so...

And I am waiting for the book...


4 posted on 11/11/2004 1:25:17 PM PST by Pitiricus
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To: Pitiricus

72 virgins? no no, you misunderstood, you get 72 white raisins, I am sorry that they are hot as hell!


5 posted on 11/11/2004 1:30:05 PM PST by RolandBurnam
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I've always said that the reason why their will be no reforms in Islam is because of their belief that the Koran is straight from God and therefore ANY challenge to its "teachings" is sacrilegious. In other words, fanaticism as far as the eyes can see...


6 posted on 11/11/2004 1:31:53 PM PST by rpage3
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To: weenie

"His work recalls that of German Biblical scholars of the 19th century, who changed Christians' understanding of their scriptures by uncovering their multi-layered history."

I hope it doesn't. The 19th century Higher Criticism movement among German scholars was as intellectually bogus as they come. It's been exposed; there are no "multiple layers".


7 posted on 11/11/2004 1:36:23 PM PST by mikeus_maximus
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To: weenie

She flashed through my mind as I read it as well.


9 posted on 11/11/2004 1:41:03 PM PST by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: Nachum
Hmmm . . . his work would seem to lend linguistic credence to the theories of theologians who see Nabataean influences in Islam.

The Nabataeans were an Arabic people who lived on the eastern borders of the Jews. They spoke Aramaic and they were allies of the Romans.

Their religion was apparently a mixture of Arab paganism with tinges of Judaism and Christian influences as well.

If the Koran shows as heavy an Aramaic influence as this guy suggests, it makes it pretty likely that the Koran is just cobbled-together fragments of eclectic Nabataean religious texts.

Just as many Jewish texts are written in a blend of Aramaic and Hebrew using Aramaic script, the Koran could be a blend of Arabic and Aramaic in Arabic script.

This would explain the thousands of words and phrases in the Koran that are obscure and that have provoked endless commentary.

It would also explain why the Koran is so disorganized and shuffled. It is the least coherent, in terms of narrative structure, of any major Near Eastern text.

10 posted on 11/11/2004 1:41:26 PM PST by wideawake (God bless our brave soldiers and their Commander in Chief)
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To: Nachum

Islam is today's repository of totalitarianism. Communism is pretty much dead as an ideology. Socialism is alive and well, but currently isn't engaged in totalitarianism.

Only Islam is currently executing people for publishing ideas.


11 posted on 11/11/2004 1:41:58 PM PST by js1138 (D*mn, I Missed!)
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To: mikeus_maximus

(There are...)


12 posted on 11/11/2004 1:48:39 PM PST by Pitiricus
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To: mikeus_maximus
As everyone knows, criticism is an important part of the exploration of any idea or religion or philosphy.

The absolute prohibition of criticism by Islam has deprived it of any vibrancy.

But of course there is a good reason Islam prohibits criticism. The Prophet must have known Islam could not withstand careful examination.

"Here is the truth...but it must never be examined in the light of day...it must be spread by the sword...and once accepted, a person can leave it only under penalty of death."

Yeah, Mohammed had much confidence in the natural durability of his truth. What kind of truth is it that is afraid of the light of day?

13 posted on 11/11/2004 1:57:10 PM PST by weenie (This is a war between the forces of good and evil. Humans are only pawns.)
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"My Muslim friends tell me that many people will jump on this book."

Uh...you mean...they know that you're the author?

14 posted on 11/11/2004 2:06:58 PM PST by Savage Beast (9/11 was never repeated--thanks to President Bush!)
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To: Nachum

On the Net: Answering Islam, A Christian-Muslim Dialog and Apologetic.
http://answering-islam.org.uk/index.html

See my tagline for link to The Life of Muhammad. A biography of the 'prophet' published in 1913.


15 posted on 11/11/2004 2:07:29 PM PST by Fred Nerks (Understand Evil: Read THE LIFE OF MUHAMMAD free pdf. See FRED NERKS for link)
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To: Nachum

I pray that Daniel Pipes has a bodyguard.


16 posted on 11/11/2004 2:08:48 PM PST by dinasour (Pajamahadeen)
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To: Nachum
SCENES WE'D LIKE TO SEE

Terrorist in Hell: "I blew myself up for what, 72 raisins? Aaarrgghhh!"

17 posted on 11/11/2004 2:33:29 PM PST by TexasRepublic (Praise the Lord and pass the ammunition!)
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...hmmm...now where have I heard something about white raisins, lately?

You must have been reading the Koran. Althought maybe it has something to do with either Ketchup or with naturepathic home remedies. Of course in the good old days they just got drunk. (wink, wink, Mrs. Kerry)

18 posted on 11/11/2004 3:44:35 PM PST by Robert357 (D.Rather "Hoist with his own petard!" www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1223916/posts)
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To: wideawake; Nachum; MarMema; Destro; eluminate

Thanks for posting this. We have to dissiminate the information about the Syro-Aramaic Reading of the Koran especially next year when an English translation appears.

Here is an academic book review:

Christoph Luxenberg (ps.) Die syro-aramaeische Lesart des Koran; Ein Beitrag zur Entschlüsselung der Qur'ansprache.

http://syrcom.cua.edu/Hugoye/Vol6No1/HV6N1PRPhenixHorn.html


19 posted on 11/28/2004 10:57:14 AM PST by AdmSmith
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To: AdmSmith

Sorry, I can not spell dissiminate =>disseminate


20 posted on 11/28/2004 11:00:56 AM PST by AdmSmith
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