'The West needs to understand it is inevitable: Islam is coming back' An opening salvo

The Guardian ^ | nov 11 04 | The Guardian

[Cutterjohnmhb]

Faisal al Yafai talks to Britain's most radical Islamic group, banned across the Middle East, about faith, defiance and the future.

The east London hall echoes to the sound of the speaker's voice: "They want us to redefine Islam to fit the agenda of the west," he intones, and the audience murmurs. "Islam is going to be political, no matter how hard they try. Islam itself is political. Allah has not remained silent when it comes to political matters."

[Cutterjohnmhb]

The call to re-establish the caliphate, the single Islamic state that existed for a millennium and a half, until the end of the Ottoman empire in 1924, forms the thrust of the group's message. But its call for Muslims to be strong is not just political; it is also religious: "Secularism has failed the world" declares a Hizb poster.

This is a wake up call to Europe, EU voted this week to ban a Political party. This party, will overcome any other EU party as a voting block in the parliment soon.

[xJones]

EU voted this week to ban a Political party. This party, will overcome any other EU party as a voting block in the parliment soon.

The EU banned a political party?

[Cutterjohnmhb]

My bad I had EU on my Mind it was athe Belgian High Court , Sorry bout that http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1276784/posts

[Restorer]

The call to re-establish the caliphate, the single Islamic state that existed for a millennium and a half, until the end of the Ottoman empire in 1924, forms the thrust of the group's message.

The united caliphate, if you stretch things, lasted from 632 to no later than about 800. The Muslim world has never been united since.

So the caliphate had a considerably shorter lifespan than the US has had so far.

Not that this is probably how the Islamists recount their history.

[Cutterjohnmhb]

Despite recent moves by the group to open itself up - in March this year, for the first time, Hizb announced the nine people on its executive committee - it remains difficult to join it. Before membership, supporters must be invited to join a study group. Patel dismisses the idea that these study groups brainwash supporters: "If you call brainwashing the imparting of ideas and discourse based on those ideas, then I'm afraid that's what it must be. But fortunately we're not in the business of brainwashing."



Thats ok, They'll learn better from their masters it seems, You know the more you look at it, It does look like a cult.

[USF]

Ahh, the EUro Koranimals are out in force again... like the EUro and Pakistani Al Mujaharoun Mujihadmorons, they blame Islams current backwardness, weakness, and failures on Muslims that have lost their faith, their direction, and belief in the way true Islam should be practiced in the Salifist sense. The way they see it, they want to return to the "Golden Age Of Islam" by forcing a return to the 7th century practices, and not tolerating "biddah" (innovations)...

"They want us to redefine Islam to fit the agenda of the west,"

- alluding to the fact that Islam and democracy may be incompatible...

"Islam is going to be political, no matter how hard they try. Islam itself is political. Allah has not remained silent when it comes to political matters."

- A clue or two here for some of the Dutch that think Islam is a "race" and others who think it should be defended as a "religion."

[USF]

- alluding to the fact that Islam and democracy may be incompatible...

Make that: alluding to the fact that Islam and democracy may NOT be incompatible

[lady lawyer]

True, they do outnumber us. But I guess that's why God made atom bombs.

[steplock]

sounds like a 'call to arms' to me! Let's get it on!

[Noachian]

The problem with muslims is that every time Islam raises its head, and starts a fight with the West, they get the crap beat out of them in the long run.

[USF]

Muslims view on why they must forgo the desire of this life, and embrace death:

The enemy is not too powerful - the Muslims are too weak.

Not since the time of the Prophet (PBUH) has there been such wide spread aggression against Muslims.

Thauban reported that the messenger of Allah said: "It is near that the nations will call one another against you just as the eaters call one another to their dishes." Somebody asked: "Is this because we will be few in numbers that day?" He said: "Nay, but that day you shall be numerous, but you will be like the foam of the sea, and Allah will take the fear of you away from your enemies and will place weakness into your hearts." Somebody asked: "What is this weakness?" He said: "The love of the world and the dislike of death." (Abu Dawud)

With unprecedented aggression against our brothers and sisters throughout the globe, the Muslim Ummah continues for the most part keeps their heads in the sand. Do not be deceived. The enemies of Islam are speaking very clearly.

http://www.jihadunspun.com/articles/20030911-ashes.to.light/ashes2light10.html

Alternate translation at:

http://www.khilafah.com/home/lographics/category.php?DocumentID=7532&TagID=1

[bayourod]

"The leader of the group, a 28-year-old IT consultant called Jalaluddin Patel,"

Patel is a name that translates into "landlord or host " in India. People with the surname Patel have been buying and building so many hotels and motels in America that within the industry, motels are being called patels.

I won't stay at one if I know it's owned by a Patel.

[MissAmericanPie]

Like "The Mother of all Wars", or "American Infidels will never leave Iraq alive"? They sure do alot of talking and posturing, until the fighting starts that is. Then they are reduced to throwing a few expletives over their shoulder as they run away, or craw from under rocks grabbing Marines by the ankles and begging.

[Recovering Ex-hippie]

When will the Muslims ever learn?
It's not their religion or their politics that dooms them to failure. It's their weird headgear!

If Faisal really wants to win this global war its time for him to call the guys on "Queer Eye for a Straight guy" and get a makeover!

[Cutterjohnmhb]

Although reluctant to talk about his own background, it is clear his upbringing was comfortable and not particularly political - he says his father knows he is involved with Hizb but doesn't know he leads it. "He will now."

Nice bit of info thanks,It's not uncommon for a secretive organizations to have legit interest to launder money and hide people. Perhaps Saudi or a gulf state.

[sheik yerbouty]

Islam is in need of radiotherapy.

[docman57]

Dear Ragheads, Keep talking just a bit more,
We've got your co-ordinates, we've got the range, just need to adjust for windage a wee bit......

[PhilipFreneau]

Cache your ammo. Prepare for the inevitable.

[hineybona]

Secularism has failed the world" declares a Hizb poster.
Bet the jerkoff who put up that poster owns a computer , Nike sneakers , some sort of CD player and a cell phone..FRAUDS THE LOT OF THEM !!!!!!!!!!1

[USF]

Bet the jerkoff who put up that poster owns a computer , Nike sneakers , some sort of CD player and a cell phone..

Islamic parasites. They use technology and tools that their own backward culture can not create, partly due to superstition hindering intellectual advancement and oppressing the women and minorities that would make up a significant contribution to their workforce, and then ultimately using this basic gift of kuffar technology to destroy everything else they are too backward to create or build themselves. Just like the 9/11 hijackers.