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To: fr11
The "rubes" are the ones that want to argue an unprovable theory is fact. Any theory of how the world was created is doomed to remain a theory since it is scientifically unprovable. It then becomes a question of philosophy rather than science. If you desire to have a world view devoid of a spiritual dimension you will gravitate to the theory of evolution or some other theory like it.
Of course it is silly to say creationism is the opposing theory if the argument is scientific. Creationism can only be an opposing theory if the argument is philosophical.
I imagine all of this will be settled when God appears and reveals how he created the universe anyway. After all, he was the only one who was there at the time, thus the only one capable of fulfilling the scientific requirement of observation.
9 posted on 11/12/2004 5:13:07 AM PST by Ricanator (rubic's3)
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To: Ricanator

Read my post #7 if you really want to know what the word "theory" means in science.


12 posted on 11/12/2004 5:15:59 AM PST by RadioAstronomer
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To: Ricanator

> I imagine all of this will be settled when God appears and reveals how he created the universe anyway.

And boy won't people be surprised when that god is Zeus...


22 posted on 11/12/2004 6:24:18 AM PST by orionblamblam
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To: Ricanator
Any theory of how the world was created is doomed to remain a theory since it is scientifically unprovable.

We cannot go back into time and see how the world was created. But scientific theories make predictions that can be verified. For example, the theory of evolution includes the observation that all life has descended from a common ancestor. This was clear to Charles Darwin and his contemporaries, who reached this conclusion by studying the anatomy of living things. Now if life really did descend from a common ancestor, when the technology to sequence genes became available, it would be expected that the genetic information would confirm the family trees inferred from older studies of anatomy. This is precisely what happened: species understood to be more closely related usually happen to have more similarities in their genes -- down to inconsequential "spelling errors" in the genes. This, therefore, is a prediction by the theory, which was then verified.

Personally, I have no problem believing in a God who created life using evolution: we have a world with life that is resilient and adaptable, which has sculpted itself into the myriad beautiful forms we see today.

23 posted on 11/12/2004 6:24:23 AM PST by megatherium
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To: Ricanator
Any theory of how the world was created is doomed to remain a theory since it is scientifically unprovable.

Hi Rube. You've just proved the articles point. Evolution has absolutely zero to do with "how the world was created".

Creationionists are the albatross around the neck of conservatives like Gay Marriage people are for the liberals.

29 posted on 11/12/2004 6:37:15 AM PST by narby (WE are now the Mainstream - Enjoy)
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To: Ricanator
Any theory of how the world was created

Evolution has absolutely nothing to do with how the world was created.

Sort of hard to have a debate when one side of it doesn't even have the foggiest idea of what is being debated.

36 posted on 11/12/2004 6:59:35 AM PST by Strategerist
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To: Ricanator
Any theory of how the world was created is doomed to remain a theory since it is scientifically unprovable

What makes you say that?

If you desire to have a world view devoid of a spiritual dimension you will gravitate to the theory of evolution or some other theory like it.

Nonsense. The TOE, like every other scientific theory, in no way covers spiritual issues. That's an area that science leaves to priests and rabbis.

After all, he was the only one who was there at the time, thus the only one capable of fulfilling the scientific requirement of observation.

Question for you: If you see footprints in the snow, can you logically conclude that somebody walked through there previously? Following your logic, you can't. Also, following your logic, OJ did not murder his wife and her boyfriend because nobody actually saw him do it.

51 posted on 11/12/2004 7:23:27 AM PST by Modernman (Giving money and power to government is like giving whiskey and car keys to teenage boys. - P.J.)
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To: Ricanator
The "rubes" are the ones that want to argue an unprovable theory is fact.

It is fact that populations exhibit changes in allele frequencies. The Theory of Evolution is an attempt to explain these frequencies.

Any theory of how the world was created is doomed to remain a theory since it is scientifically unprovable.

You demonstrate a fundamental lack of knowledge with respect to the scientific process generally, and the Theory of Evolution specifically.

Can you even state the Theory of Evolution that you attemp to argue against?

171 posted on 11/12/2004 2:20:14 PM PST by Condorman (Changes aren't permanent, but change is.)
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