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There Wasn't a Single Communist North Vietnamese Army Soldier inside a then Free South Vietnam
lzxray ^ | Nov 13, 2004

Posted on 11/12/2004 9:16:06 PM PST by Calpernia

Xray Day 1, 14 Nov 1965

Lead elements of the under strength 450 man 1st Bn, 7th Cavalry air assault into a small clearing in scrub jungle below the 2300 foot Chu Pong Massif. Within an hour, a fierce battle is underway between the American Air Cav troopers and the aggressive 9th Bn of the 66th Regiment of the Peoples Army of Vietnam - North Vietnamese Regulars. The American Commander, Lt. Col Moore, fighting on the ground with his men, is faced with three on-going tasks to be accomplished simultaneously:

* Shuttle in the rest of his men from 14 miles to the rear on 16 Huey helicopters
* Holding onto the clearing so that the Hueys can land and take off
* Carry the fight to the numerically superior force as far into the jungle as possible so as to control the edges of the clearing

It is quickly apparent that the enemy force is determined to overrun and kill every American on the field. The afternoon is consumed in a desperate fire-storm battle for survival in 100 degree heat for Moore and his men as the PAVN commander throws the 7th Bn of the 66th and a composite battalion of the 33rd Regt in a furious attack against the 7th Cavalry left flank and center. In the action, a 29 man Cavalry platoon is surrounded by 200 enemy. Employing massive air and artillery fire support, the disciplined Cavalrymen hold onto the landing zone clearing against 7-1 odds and cause the PAVN units to fall back and break contact by late afternoon. During the action, brave Huey pilots land their choppers under fire during the action to bring in ammo and water and carry out wounded. A reinforcing Cavalry company flies in just before dark.

During the fighting that day, the 1st Bn, 7th Cavalry is reduced to approximately 340 officers and men; none missing. PAVN casualties are much higher due to awesome American fire support; six enemy are captured and evacuated.

X-Ray Day 2

Before dawn, Moore orders his company commanders to meet him prior to an attack to rescue the still cut-off platoon. Before this meeting takes place, the PAVN launch a heavy attack which shatters the early-morning stillness like a huge explosion. The attack is carried out by the 7th Bn, 66th Regiment and the H-15 Main Force Viet Cong Bn.

C Company of the Cavalry Battalion bears the brunt of the assault and is soon involved in hand to hand combat. The right portion of D/1/7 is also struck. The code word "Broken Arrow" is sent out over the radio by the Battalion Forward Air Controller. Within minutes, all available fighter bombers in South Vietnam are headed for X-ray to render close air support to "an American unit in grave danger of being overrun". A 3 hour battle that features non-stop 105mm artillery (8" artillery also participated), aerial rockets, and determined American Infantrymen, results in Charlie Company holding it's ground in a stunning display of personal courage and unit discipline. But it pays a terrible price - no officers left and only 49 men unhurt. 42 officers and men killed; 20 wounded. Scores of slain North Vietnamese and their weapons litter the bloody battleground.

"An as their firin' dies away, the 'usky wisper runs, from lips that 'aven't drunk all day: The guns! Thank Gawd, the guns!"
- Rudyard Kipling

At noon, the 2nd Bn, 5th Cavalry marches into X-ray from a landing zone 2 miles east. Joining with the 7th Cavalry parent company of the cut-off platoon, it continues out unopposed, rescues it, and brings it back with all wounded and dead. Of the 29 man platoon, 9 killed and 13 wounded. When reached, the platoon, which had lost its Platoon leader, Platoon Sgt, and one Squad leader killed, had ammo left to fight with under the leadership of a 3 stripe "Buck Sergeant" Squad Leader (SGT Savage).

C Co 1/7 Cav survivors are replaced on line by the fresh B Co 2nd Bn, 7th Cavalry. The battalion now forms a strong perimeter and prepares for more action in the night. All American dead and wounded are evacuated.

Xray Day 3, 16 Nov 1965

The PAVN Commander, knows that he had severely weakened and damaged the defenders in the Charlie Co sector the previous morning. What he does not know is that a fresh company - B Co 2nd Bn 7th Cav, had taken over the position after that engagement. That company, unmolested the previous afternoon, had cut fields of fire, dug new foxholes, fired in artillery concentrations, carefully emplaced it's machine guns and piled up ammunition.

The PAVN assaults four separate times beginning at 4:22 AM. The last is at 6:27 AM. They are stopped cold, losing over 200 dead. B Co has 6 wounded. At 9:55 AM, a sweep outward is made which results in more enemy dead and the position secured.

At 10:40 AM, the 1st Bn, 7th Cavalry, having lost 79 men killed and 121 wounded is ordered back to the rear for reorganization. By 3:00 PM, 1/7 CAV had turned over X-ray to the 2nd Bn, 5th Cav and the 2nd Bn, 7th CAV and is flying back to the Camp Holloway airfield at Pleiku City.

At the conclusion of X-ray, the sister battalion of 1/7 CAV, 2/7 CAV, was ordered to march to Landing Zone Albany for extraction from the battle area and to get out of the beaten area for an impending B52 strike. The fight of 2/7 CAV at Albany is the next chapter of the Ia Drang Campaign.

Albany. Day 1, 17 Nov 65

A B-52 strike of 800 500 pound bombs (200 tons) is headed for the near slopes of Chu Pong Mountain above X-Ray early on 17 November scheduled to drop at 11:17 AM. To get out of the danger zone, both Cavalry Battalions are ordered out of X-Ray. 2/5 CAV leads enroute to the Artillery position at LZ Columbus. 2/7 CAV follows with orders to break off shy of Columbus and head for a small clearing 1.5 miles to the Northwest. 2/5 CAV reaches Columbus and goes into position without any problems. The head of the 2/7 CAV column captures two PAVN soldiers at 11:57 AM 100 yards east of Albany.

The battalion column stops while the prisoners are interrogated. The lead Company Commander, A/2/7, puts out observation posts. Weary troopers in the column, after over 50 hours without decent rest or sleep, sit down and take a break. Some light up cigarettes, some remove packs, radios, mortars, etc. Others lie down. Visibility in the 3-5 foot high grass is extremely limited.

Albany. Day 1, 17 Nov 1965

The 2/7 CAV Battalion Command Group and A Co 2/7 CAV reach Albany after interrogating the two PAVN prisoners. All Company Commanders are called forward and begin arriving at the clearing. The column is 550 yards long. C Company and A/1/5 put out flank security. PAVN soldiers of the fresh 8th Bn, 66th Regt (which had not seen action) deploy down the Northeast side of the column. Survivors of the 33rd PAVN Regiment deploy at the head of the 2/7 column.

Albany. Days 1-4, 17 - 20 Nov 1965

At 1:20 PM, PAVN mortar rounds explode in the clearing and down the length of the column of American companies followed by a violent assault which fragments the column into small groups.

When the firing begins, the Cavalrymen drop into the tall 3-5 foot high elephant grass where it is impossible for the soldiers of either side to identify friend or foe except at extremely close range. Within minutes, the situation becomes a wild melee, a shoot-out, with the gunfighters killing not only the enemy but sometimes their friends just a few feet away. When the firing begins, Captain George Forrest, commander of A Co 1/5 CAV (attached to 2/7 CAV), turns on his heels with his 2 radio operators, runs back 500 yards to his company and "circles the wagons". His two radio operators are killed beside him during that run.

For the next two hours, the battle roars. A-1E Skyraiders are brought in dropping napalm and 250 pound bombs which slow down the enemy actions, and the fire slackens. Artillery is brought in. By dark, B Co, 2/7 CAV had landed to reinforce Albany. There is now a small perimeter at Albany and one at the tail of the column. In between are American survivors being hounded and killed throughout the night. Also, in the night, a few isolated Americans escape and evade; trying to make it to the artillery position at Columbus.

When daylight breaks on the morning of 18 November, it is a quiet and tense battlefield. Survivors begin the grim task of recovering American dead from the intermingled bodies of both sides. One platoon leader describes the scene down the 2/7 column as "a long, bloody traffic accident in the jungle". Wounded and dead are evacuated.

By the 19th, evacuation of the wounded and dead is complete. On 20 Nov, after 3 days and nights on that bloody, hellish, haunted battleground, the survivors of 2/7 CAV are airlifted out. 403 PAVN dead are reported and an estimated 150 wounded. Total American casualties at Albany: 151 killed, 121 wounded and 4 missing in action. In April 1966, the remains of all 4 of the missing are recovered.


The first two Communist North Vietnamese Regular POW's of the Battle of IA DRANG fresh from LZ X-RAY are escorted from Helicopter to Helicopter at LZ FALCON by members of the HHC, 1/7 Cav. Associated Press Photographer is running to the right to get in front of them to take the picture that is in 'WE WERE SOLDIERS ONCE....AND YOUNG.' Shadow of me taking this picture is at lower left. I consider this Picture one of the best. Notice M-16 POW wounded knee on one of the POW's in the middle of the picture.


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To: Calpernia

LZ FALCON, a smiling and Victorious Lt. Col. Harold G. Moore newly extracted from LZ X-RAY, along with the 1/7 Cav, thanking the HHC Medical Aid Men for their work at LZ X-RAY.
21 posted on 11/12/2004 10:43:51 PM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Calpernia

LZ FALCON, Helmeted Lt. Col. Harold G. Moore thanking 1/7 Cav Battalion surgeon Capt. Robert Carrara for his valiant and heroic work at LZ X-RAY saving lives. S/Sgt Keeton is on the left. LZ FALCON Medical Aid Station 2nd Lt (?) on the right is the one who pronounced S-2 CPT Tom Metzger KIA after his extraction from Huey at Falcon fresh from X-Ray.
22 posted on 11/12/2004 10:45:15 PM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Calpernia

CPT Tony Nadal, Commanding CO. A, 1/7 Cav, at BONG SON, March/April 1966.
23 posted on 11/12/2004 10:47:05 PM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Calpernia

Sp/4 Ronnie Guyer standing in front of the closest thing to a Christmas Tree to be found on Christmas Day 1965 at 1/7th Cav HQ at An Khe
24 posted on 11/12/2004 10:49:11 PM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Calpernia; injin

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Here's a SANTA CLAUS Salute 2-U

http://www.lzxray.com/Ronnie3.jpg

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25 posted on 11/12/2004 11:06:23 PM PST by ALOHA RONNIE ("ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer/Veteran-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.lzxray.comi)
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To: ALOHA RONNIE
SALUTE
26 posted on 11/12/2004 11:07:48 PM PST by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (Never Forget)
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To: ALOHA RONNIE; Calpernia; The Sailor; grace522; kjfine; USAF_TSgt; darkwing104; txradioguy; ...

ALOHA RONNIE PICS and HISTORY FROM VIET NAM PING


27 posted on 11/12/2004 11:11:53 PM PST by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (Never Forget)
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To: Darksheare

ping


28 posted on 11/12/2004 11:14:57 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (Liberals Are INTOLERANT!)
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To: DJ MacWoW

This should be required reading for everyone;

http://www.mishalov.com/death_ia_drang_valley.html


29 posted on 11/12/2004 11:20:07 PM PST by Wooly
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub; Calpernia; ALOHA RONNIE; All

Thanks for the ping, Tonk!
Thanks for taking an interest in ALOHA RONNIE's site, Calpernia and posting this thread. I gather at the time you didn't know he's a FReeper?

I often find myself humbled by the folks I've met here over time. So many have done so much for our country over the years.

Tonk, Ronnie, and any other vets or active duty military folks who see this, I hope you know how much I appreciate your efforts. Thank you so much!


30 posted on 11/12/2004 11:36:24 PM PST by radu (May God watch over our troops and keep them safe)
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To: Calpernia

btt


31 posted on 11/12/2004 11:40:53 PM PST by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat)
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To: radu

" I hope you know how much I appreciate your efforts. Thank you so much!"


I would very sincerely like to second this ....
Thanks !


32 posted on 11/12/2004 11:44:52 PM PST by injin
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To: Calpernia

Hi, Calpernia:

It's amazing how little is known about Vietnam. I grew up during the War and enlisted in the AF as "Vietnamization" was in full swing.

Then wound up at Ton Son Nhut in 1975 to evacuate people out as tanks and trucks were streaming down "The Ho Chi Minh Trail" that looked surprisingly like a stretch of Interstate 495 as it entered Saigon (Never "Ho Chi Minh City"!!!) proper.

Between loading South Vietnamese children into C-130s and cargo strapping them to the floor. I spent my time doing "Hot Turns" (Pumping gas. Check for obvious damage. While fresh ammunition for the plane's guns. Kick the tires. Light the fires. The first one in the air is the Leader!) for AC-130 Gunships.

A very hectic, chaotic, crazy (Kicking our allies, the ARVN off airliners so civilians could get out) times.

Jack.


33 posted on 11/12/2004 11:50:56 PM PST by Jack Deth (When In Doubt.... Empty The Magazine!)
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To: injin

You're welcome.

And welcome to FR. :-)


34 posted on 11/12/2004 11:52:22 PM PST by radu (May God watch over our troops and keep them safe)
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

BTTT!!!!!!!


35 posted on 11/13/2004 3:01:29 AM PST by E.G.C.
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To: Calpernia

That's only 2, not an Army, so, the war was unnecessary...

Oh, Wait, that's what they said about THIS war....


36 posted on 11/13/2004 4:19:08 AM PST by RaceBannon (Arab Media pulled out of Fallujah; Could we get the MSM to pull out of America??)
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To: Calpernia
and haunted, by the war he mismanaged so badly.

I've always had a problem with that phrase especially in light of the book Deliction of Duty by H. R. McMaster. After Tet '68 which "America's Most Trusted Newsman" declared a loss for America, the citizens lost their will to carry on. In 1968 Nixon ran on getting out of Vietnam and supposedly had a plan for doing so. Nixon did extract us from Vietnam masterfully especially when you consider what a recent candidate for the presidency was doing at the same time. The Nixon led retreat got over 500,000 troops out and recovered most of POWs well before Siagons fall. That is not mismanagement in my view.

While the media likes to show pictures of the helicopter on top of the CIA building in Siagon or the one being pushed into the sea off the carrier. That occurred after Nixon had been chased from office and the RATs had gone back on the word of the US to provide air support if the NVA brought tanks into the south.

37 posted on 11/13/2004 4:28:39 AM PST by Jimmy Valentine's brother (Crush your enemies; see them driven before you and hear the lamentation of their women - Conan)
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To: Calpernia; ALOHA RONNIE

1965 - ALOHA RONNIE

He was a soldier once... and young.

39 years seems like yesterday.

NEVER FORGET


38 posted on 11/13/2004 4:34:53 AM PST by Jimmy Valentine's brother (Crush your enemies; see them driven before you and hear the lamentation of their women - Conan)
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To: Calpernia; ALOHA RONNIE

God Bless you and Aloha Ronnie. Thanks again for your courage and service.


39 posted on 11/13/2004 5:20:49 AM PST by vetvetdoug (In memory of T/Sgt. Secundino "Dean" Baldonado, Jarales, NM-KIA Bien Hoa AFB, RVN 1965)
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To: vetvetdoug

BTTT


40 posted on 11/13/2004 5:29:42 AM PST by international american (GOD BLESS OUR VETERANS! LAND OF THE FREE BECAUSE OF THE BRAVE!!)
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