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Prominent Muslim lauds van Gogh slaying, blesses murderer
The Copenhangen Post ^ | November 11, 2004

Posted on 11/13/2004 3:43:58 PM PST by kupia_kummi

There was little sympathy to be found for Dutch filmmaker Theo van Gogh on a Danish internet forum posting by Danish Muslim pundit Omar Shah. Commenting on last Tuesday's killing of van Gogh on a closed Internet forum, Omar Shah reportedly wrote: ‘Too bad that he (van Gogh) no longer has the pleasure of practicing his perverse artwork, or rather Alhamdullilalh (Thank God). May Allah swt (the Almighty) grant his  'murderer' sabr (patience in hard times).’ The translation of the above text was courtesy of daily newspaper Kristeligt Dagblad.

Dutch police have arrested several individuals with known ties to an Islamic extremist group in connection with Theo van Gogh's murder. The director was believed to have been targeted by the group after making a controversial film about the maltreatment of women in Islam.

Imam Fatih Alev runs the Danish Association of Cybermuslims (DFC), which administrates the closed mailing list that forwarded Omar Shah's remarks to some 300 online forum guests around the country.

(Excerpt) Read more at cphpost.dk ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: holland; terror; theovangogh
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These people are sick !
1 posted on 11/13/2004 3:43:59 PM PST by kupia_kummi
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To: kupia_kummi

Those people are sick and stupid!


2 posted on 11/13/2004 3:45:38 PM PST by AmericanMade1776
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To: kupia_kummi

It is posts like this that will help us all understand the nature of Islam. Thank you, thank you, thank you.


3 posted on 11/13/2004 3:45:44 PM PST by ReadyNow (When you see the eye, expect a lie!)
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To: kupia_kummi

Religion of Peace?


4 posted on 11/13/2004 3:45:50 PM PST by elizabetty
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To: elizabetty
islam is a cult.... a blood cult someone in MSM has called it a religion .......
5 posted on 11/13/2004 3:46:45 PM PST by Gibtx (Pajamahadien call to arms.....)
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To: kupia_kummi
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6 posted on 11/13/2004 3:48:13 PM PST by Fiddlstix (This Tagline for sale. (Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: kupia_kummi
I hope the Mossad or some other black team is keeping a list of such people as this Omar Shah. They need to start disappearing ,one after another. Sooner the better.
7 posted on 11/13/2004 3:50:15 PM PST by injin
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To: Fiddlstix

They hate the West. Why are they here ?


8 posted on 11/13/2004 3:50:24 PM PST by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: kupia_kummi

i think a lot of people here arent being completely honest in their positions on islam. i dont appreciate being called a troll for expressing an opinion i believe is shared by most people here. we are on one side and muslims are on the other side. this includes the ones we are helping in iraq and afghanistan. there will be no peaceful palestinian state and we will likely be at war with iraq and afghanistan in 20 years if they arent still fighting a civil war there after we leave.

i support bush and the war in iraq but we are wasting our time, soldiers lives and money trying to make muslims into civilized people. its not worth it.


9 posted on 11/13/2004 3:52:25 PM PST by CaptainAwesome2
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
They hate the West. Why are they here ?

To force us to become like them.

10 posted on 11/13/2004 3:52:40 PM PST by stboz
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To: CaptainAwesome2

Whats his address????? I think he needs a little...protest.


11 posted on 11/13/2004 3:53:08 PM PST by samadams2000
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

Because they're financed by the European welfare state.


12 posted on 11/13/2004 3:53:14 PM PST by Kulturkaempfer
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
They hate the West. Why are they here ?

I've asked the same question.

13 posted on 11/13/2004 3:54:22 PM PST by Fiddlstix (This Tagline for sale. (Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

Dhimmitude:
Convert, submit or die.

Religion from Hell.....


14 posted on 11/13/2004 3:55:49 PM PST by Wizski
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To: kupia_kummi

Note how the Imam is more concerned about the journalists reporting the musings of the imbecile rather then really condemning the said imbecile.


15 posted on 11/13/2004 3:57:01 PM PST by nothernlights
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To: kupia_kummi

They are sick and dangerous. We better make protecting our borders, deporting illegal aliens, and prosecuting smugglers and enables our first priority.


16 posted on 11/13/2004 3:57:40 PM PST by Dante3
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To: kupia_kummi

Can someone help me. What about van Gogh's artwork was perverse? Did he depict in his paintings what Arafat did with his bodyguards?


17 posted on 11/13/2004 3:58:48 PM PST by Sir Clancelot
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To: injin

"...start disappearing..."

!!!


18 posted on 11/13/2004 3:59:57 PM PST by truth_seeker
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To: CaptainAwesome2
"... its not worth it."

Unfortunately, we simply have to try. That sucks because our son's and daughter's very lives are on the line.

I think that you are right, but I pray that you are wrong!

19 posted on 11/13/2004 4:05:06 PM PST by Radix (The best Tag Line that I ever saw was so good because just as it was getting interesting it suddenly)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
They hate the West. Why are they here ?

They represent an Islamic Fifth Column. They're living in Western countries in order to work from within to destroy us. The Liberal "enemy within" in Western countries are doing their worst to weaken our resolve to preserve our culture. They are as dangerous as the Islamic Trojan Horse that's within our gates.

20 posted on 11/13/2004 4:15:26 PM PST by Free ThinkerNY ((((Stand and Fight the Traitorous Left))))
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To: Radix

This is a job for a true professional. someone like Chad Clanton.


21 posted on 11/13/2004 4:16:01 PM PST by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: kupia_kummi
Fantastic, I love it when these haters. speak the truth so that all of us can see why Muslim children turn out so bloodthirsty. A big difference from what your local pastor or vicar would say. Wake up Europe!!! Your time is short.
22 posted on 11/13/2004 4:21:51 PM PST by Cutterjohnmhb
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
"They hate the West. Why are they here ?"

To infiltrate, spread, and force changes upon us.

24 posted on 11/13/2004 4:35:02 PM PST by TheCrusader ("the frenzy of the Mohammedans has devastated the Churches of God" - Pope Urban II, 1097 A.D.)
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To: kupia_kummi

I hope the Mohammedan vermin keeps voicing its opinion loudly and clearly. The silent majority is switching from indifference to active listening. It's time the all of use realize that "Islam" is a primitive, dangerous, reactionary ideology of hate and idiocy.


25 posted on 11/13/2004 4:41:20 PM PST by Kurt_D
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To: Atigun

Rifle deer season opened in Missouri this morning. A few of the lads will improve on their shooting skills. This is good.


26 posted on 11/13/2004 4:44:11 PM PST by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: kupia_kummi

This Imam would fit right in with the ACLU. He'd be one of their heroes. Islam is nothing but a death cult.


27 posted on 11/13/2004 4:45:23 PM PST by BucksCountyBushman
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To: kupia_kummi
I love this line on thinking...he's mad it's a huge story,because we take it out of context..We don't understand, the teacher was just trying to teach his subjects his wizened and reasoned position on why murder is holy (sick)against any who do not share their views..thats Muslim or non- Muslim, makes no difference to haters.



Daily newspaper Jyllands-Posten asked Fatih Alev if he found it irritating that remarks such as Omar Shah's so frequently occasioned heated debate in the Danish media.

‘It irritates me that journalists gets tips on something that was said on a mailing list and make a huge story out of it. People on the mailing list might have pressed Omar for answers on his position on violence, and gotten some insight into the intentions behind what he wrote that way. Anyone can join the mailing list,’ said Alev.
28 posted on 11/13/2004 4:47:11 PM PST by Cutterjohnmhb
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To: CaptainAwesome2

The historical analysis for this WOT would be the Japanese in WWII. We developed the ultimate weapon and then when the choice was a million US dead or 2X A-bombs on Japanese cities, we made the right decision. We will do it again and it will be the right decision.


29 posted on 11/13/2004 5:00:28 PM PST by iopscusa (El Vaquero)
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To: kupia_kummi

Predictable.


30 posted on 11/13/2004 5:01:07 PM PST by F16Fighter
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To: TheCrusader

They hate the West. Why are they here ?"
To infiltrate, spread, and force changes upon us.

Among the changes are:
No more sex in the movies; no more movies period, and perhaps no more sex period (you have to blowup yourself first before you can have sex with the "virgins", remember?).
No more public indecent exposure (attn:Madonna, Diaz, Barrymore, etc.;all women to wear the ever fashionable black head-to-toe)
No more multiple partners(attn: Madonna, Diaz, Barrymore,etc.)
No more Bev Hills and Sta. Monica beachfront mansions (just caves).
No more wild sex parties (just wild sex orgies with the Islamofascist leaders and their bodyguards; attn: Affleck, Damon, DiCaprio,etc.)
In other words, no more Hollywood as we know it. And yet, these egocentric and materialistic cry-babies are blind to the growing threat of Islamofascism to western democracy.
They believe Pres Bush ,the "neocons", and the religious Right, NOT THE TERRORISTS, to be the enemy. Unbelievable!


31 posted on 11/13/2004 5:42:35 PM PST by citizencon
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To: CaptainAwesome2

I live in Norway, and I was not overly surprised when an instructor at my local gym commentred to me just before the electioons that he thought President Bush was an idiot. That is pretty much orthodoxy over here. But, he went on, "Bringing democracy to the muslims, He should have flattened the whole darned country." More and more people are getting fed up.


32 posted on 11/14/2004 2:07:24 AM PST by Eurotwit
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To: Eurotwit

Most rational people view the world problems as you do . I know I do.I live in the states in Northern Alabama . The latest battle in Iraq would have been better served if we had destroyed the town back to the stone age rather than risk one American life. It was not worth one of our lives. I am a former pilot in US Air Force in the cold war in 1950's and we prevented WW3 by being very active and ready to strike on perhaps one day's notice.
The world would have been much different if we had struck but we did PREVENT the BIG war.


33 posted on 11/14/2004 5:58:45 AM PST by southland (Dan rather cost kerry the electiion today!!)
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To: Eurotwit
Is it true, there have been incidents of muslim violence against Norwegians by Islamic reasons.
34 posted on 11/14/2004 6:06:54 AM PST by Haro_546
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To: Free ThinkerNY

"The Liberal "enemy within" in Western countries are doing their worst to weaken our resolve to preserve our culture. They are as dangerous as the Islamic Trojan Horse that's within our gates."

Well said and I agree with you 1000%. The liberal left is basically working WITH the terrorists and they are all working to destroy our way of life (and some are working to destroy us and our children).


35 posted on 11/14/2004 6:08:06 AM PST by LibSnubber (liberal democrats are domestic terrorists)
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To: kupia_kummi

The phrase "Digging their graves with their tongues" comes to mind.


36 posted on 11/14/2004 6:10:22 AM PST by najida (How much wood could a wood chuck chuck if he lived in a Blue State? None, he'd break a nail.)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
"They hate the West. Why are they here ?"

They're here to either convert or kill you.

37 posted on 11/14/2004 6:19:27 AM PST by blam
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They hate the West. Why are they here ?

They are here to convert the Infidels of the West to Islam. It's their job (which is an excellent translation of jihad. This Jihad or "job' or "duty" is a central pillar of Islam). They are Muslims. Those Infidels who are intractable must be killed or enslaved. That's their job, too.

A moderate Muslim also believes that the Infidel must be converted and that all society must be eventually governed by Sharia. What makes them "Moderate" is that word "eventually." In the meantime, the "Moderates" are required to support those whose vision of jihad is more immediate and /or violent. The "Moderates" are Muslims and they have their job (their jihad), too.

A Muslim is not allowed to prevent another from following through with his Jihad. If an Infidel or two, or two hundred thousand, or 2 million, is killed in the process, TS.

This why you see very little reaction in the Muslim world against the terrorists. The "Moderates" keep quiet and contribute whatever support they can. They are required to do so. They are Muslims.

38 posted on 11/14/2004 6:42:15 AM PST by Kenny Bunk
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To: kupia_kummi

It's always good to see prominent Muslims speaking out about terrorism. Especially on 'closed forums' where they think the infidels won't see what they are saying.


39 posted on 11/14/2004 6:56:15 AM PST by spodefly (I've posted nothing but BTTT over 1000 times!!!)
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To: Haro_546

There has been some overt acts like the shooting of the head of the publishing company who published "Satantical Verses". The publisher did survive the assasination attempt. I man mistaken for a journalist who had made fun of Islam was severely molested by a gang of Pakistan youth.

However, mostly there have been a large numbers of murders, stabbings and gang rapes perpetrated by muslims against non-muslims. If their reason was islamic? Who knows? Many of the rapes probably are related to Islamic reasoning I would venture to guess.

Just during this Ramadan, a young girls was found murdered in her dormitory room by a Somali man. And a few days ago a 15 year old girl was abducted by one Iranian and three Kosovo Albanians and gang raped for hours in my little town. This August, a Somalian man went berserk on a tram and stabbed several people, killing one boy who was blind, and thus was unable to get away.

Personally I have been beaten up by a gang of Kosovars, and a close friend of mine was raped by a Somali. Such events are too commonplace to even warrant mentioning.

Add to this that the good doctor Zawahiri tends to pop up from time to time in is tapes and threaten Norway, there is a lot of anger and resentment building up.


40 posted on 11/14/2004 6:58:24 AM PST by Eurotwit
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To: Gibtx
islam is a cult.... a blood cult someone in MSM has called it a religion

Won't get any argument from me, nor from Joe Farah of WorldNetDaily. My personal fear is that not many people, including our key leaders, are not following his attempted lead on this or his research on the underlying support behind the scenes from countries like Saudi Arabia and others.

I guess they're (our leaders in charge) are just trying to hold everything together, knowing that they are amongst us in significant numbers also.

41 posted on 11/14/2004 7:41:09 AM PST by SlightOfTongue
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To: kupia_kummi

...and Muslims wonder why the Dutch people are becoming wary of them?


42 posted on 11/14/2004 7:43:12 AM PST by FourPeas (By gnawing through a dike, even a rat may drown a nation. ~Edmund Burke)
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To: Eurotwit

sounds like a smart guy. sooner or later we are going to have to deal with the fact that we have lost thousands of american lives, hundreds of billions of dollars and countless hours on putting together a democracy that wont last.


43 posted on 11/14/2004 7:43:32 AM PST by CaptainAwesome2
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To: Eurotwit

And if I understand correctly, the translators of the "Satanic Verses" were assassinated.

You're notes are rather helpful. We have a large Somali community and we've gotten along somewhat cordially.

My post is long, so if you don't read it all or have problems understanding it; that's ok.

Soccer/Football is a big sport in Norway, this is where I have met some Somalians from. On this level they are fine. I've come across them working at the Airport. Again, in this situation, they have been alright.

My post is a bit long, excuse me. I wonder if Norway and Holland and other European countries might see the Moslems that have migrated live in more isolation and that more radical thinkings and ideas might be more possible? Out of the 80 or 90,000 that are in Minnesota, possibly a handful, maybe as small as 2 or 3 have been shown to have been involved in terrorism.

I did not need to understand Somalian, I feel one day I was out at the airport shortly after the invasion of Iraq and one man, with the Moslem type of beard was pretty adamant in a conversation they were having and I just knew they must have been speaking about the war.

Many of them are taxi drivers; one day out at the airport, the taxi parking lot they drive into, all of those taxis were being searched.

On a bit of the other side of the coin, I know that in the past 16 months, one Somali store owner and two Somali taxi drivers have been murdered and it all points to Inner City hoodlums having done this.

Forgive me for a rather long post, but it is interesting to compare similarities and differences in this. I like to give all people the benefit of the doubt but obviously here, one must be extra cautious because much is at stake.


44 posted on 11/14/2004 8:53:36 AM PST by roadrunner96 (Don't sleep at dawn!)
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To: roadrunner96

bump to read later


45 posted on 11/15/2004 3:24:41 AM PST by libs_kma (USA: The land of the Free....Because of the Brave!)
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To: kupia_kummi

Unfortunately (and I hate to say this) it will take another 9/11 for us to wake up and see that these Muslim/Islamists/murderers of children need to be exterminated like cockroaches.


46 posted on 05/27/2005 4:42:02 AM PDT by Riptides
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To: kupia_kummi
href="http://blog.bearstrong.net/001501.html">Bjørn Stærk blog - Omar Shah defends van Gogh murder
... Danish Muslim pundit Omar Shah defends van Gogh murder in mailing list: "Too ... Here is another article that Omar Shah wrote after his hate-posting was ...
blog.bearstrong.net/001501.html - 31k - Cached - Similar pages

47 posted on 05/27/2005 4:44:46 AM PDT by dennisw (He writes everything's been returned which was owed...)
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Bjørn Stærk blog - Omar Shah defends van Gogh murder
... Danish Muslim pundit Omar Shah defends van Gogh murder in mailing list: "Too ... Here is another article that Omar Shah wrote after his hate-posting was ...
blog.bearstrong.net/001501.html - 31k - Cached - Similar pages

48 posted on 05/27/2005 4:45:20 AM PDT by dennisw (He writes everything's been returned which was owed...)
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To: kupia_kummi

Ah, but to liberals and leftists everywhere, it is fundamentalist Christians who are to be feared most.


49 posted on 05/27/2005 4:46:31 AM PDT by twntaipan (Take Back the Senate from the Appeasement Seven)
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To: kupia_kummi

The EuroWeenies will treat the Islamofacist the same way they treated Hitler!


50 posted on 05/27/2005 4:48:16 AM PDT by TexasCajun
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