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Parents have to teach their kids at home, imagine that?
Hendersonville Times News ^ | 11/13/2004 | Mandy Bisland

Posted on 11/13/2004 4:04:54 PM PST by Marinefamilyx3

To The Editor: I have a daughter in first grade in Henderson County schools. She gets off the bus at 4 p.m., dinner around 5:30, and bath/bed by 8 p.m.

That in itself is a busy enough night. But she has spelling words (writing 10 words five times each), reading a book (first grade, 100 words), nursery rhyme, memorization goals.

Where does family time, playtime, or just sit and stare time go? And then there are families with multiple children in school. And you can forget it if they participate in Scouts, dance, sports. There's just no time!

We spend at least 1.5 to two hours a night on homework. My child is 6 years old! With barely enough patience to sit through an episode of Pokemon.

I can't blame the teachers. Sorry, but I can't. The schools are overloaded, the classrooms at capacity. And then you throw in the language barriers, and various learning disabilities, and the teachers aren't able to do their jobs.

So we're having to do it at home. There has got to be something that can be done within our schools to get this problem under control.


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To: Gabz

I agree. And I am glad you pointed that out.
Homeschooling is not for everyone.

Just like me and cooking. It will never happen!!


41 posted on 11/13/2004 4:58:11 PM PST by borntobeagle
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To: the Real fifi

Why do you think your laissez faire attitude towards helping the child do work is appropriate?

Secondly, there IS such a thing as too much homework.



42 posted on 11/13/2004 5:01:05 PM PST by thinkingman129 (questioning clears the way to understanding.)
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To: shellshocked
In public schools children can barely read by then.

In SOME public schools this may be true - but not all.

Painting all public schools with such a broad brush is the same thing as saying any parent who doesn't homeschool shouldn't be a parent.

There are good public schools and there are also parents not equipped to homeschool. I should know because my daughter is in the former because I am the latter.

43 posted on 11/13/2004 5:01:23 PM PST by Gabz (Thank a Veteran today............and every day)
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To: Gabz; borntobeagle

I have terrific respect, with a few reservations, for those who wish to homeschool. I don't want to. Call me selfish or what you will, but my kids go to an outstanding school (one of the teachers was nominated Oklahoma Teacher of the Year this last month.)

They both have perfect attendance and are straight A students. They participate in the Science Fair (Blue ribbons every time) with projects that THEY thought up and we helped them with. They are happy, popular kids who get to be around people of many different backgrounds. Additionally, we get to debunk the junk they hear at times.

They have gone to Private schools (Montessori) in the past and I will take PS anytime.

Everyone needs to do what is right for their kids. PS is fine for mine.


44 posted on 11/13/2004 5:01:34 PM PST by annyokie (If the shoe fits, put 'em both on!)
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To: notpoliticallycorewrecked

Isn't it a shame that the only solution is homeschooling?

Wouldn't it be more appropriate for homework to be scaled back?


45 posted on 11/13/2004 5:01:53 PM PST by thinkingman129 (questioning clears the way to understanding.)
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To: borntobeagle

LOL!!!!!!!! there are folks that think I live to cook.

My daughter excels in reading and math in part because she helps me in the kitchen - reading recipes and measuring ingredients. Granted it adds time to recipes, but that doesn't matter.

I may not be homeschool caliber - but that doesn't mean I don't teach.


46 posted on 11/13/2004 5:04:07 PM PST by Gabz (Thank a Veteran today............and every day)
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To: Marinefamilyx3
will be dropped for some kind of sane national education policy

We shouldn't have a national education policy at all. It's unconstitutional.

47 posted on 11/13/2004 5:04:21 PM PST by Tax-chick (First we had all the money, then we got all the votes, now we have all the fun!)
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To: jocon307

My son is in third grade, and I've been shocked at the amount of homework he's had the last two years (less this year, surprisingly). I remember that when I went through school fourth grade was the year we all dreaded because we knew the fourth graders had homework. First through third had no homework.

But maybe that's why I'm dumb enough to vote for Bush ;-}


48 posted on 11/13/2004 5:06:17 PM PST by SittinYonder (Tancredo and I wanna know what you believe)
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To: borntobeagle
Re your #20

Say what you will, government school in NC are among the worst.

I believe there are three things basic to a good elementary education.

1.A teacher fully comptent in her art....If teaching math...she/he should know it backwards and forwards.

2. A proven curriculum, tried and true, and not some new experiment from the NEA like new math and phonetic spelling.

3. dicipline in the classroom.

I am told that in the schools here in Western NC, item 3. is assured and one teacher friend from an exceptional public school system in the N.E and now subbing here said she had never seen such polite children as here in the mountains.

The other two issues seem hopeless....

Look to the over 100 year stranglehold of democrats in Raleigh state government for the answer.

49 posted on 11/13/2004 5:09:04 PM PST by squirt-gun
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To: Gabz

I've tried the cooking in kitchen for learning. It didn't work too well for me or my children. We made a BIG mess, and I confused myself!! Why do we need teaspoons anyways?? LOL. Once again, it reaffirmed the message that mommy does not cook!

We use tape measures endlessly, though. Always measuring this, that, or the other. And my girls can come to good estimates of how much paint we need to paint a room.

Your cooking talents are always welcomed here!!


50 posted on 11/13/2004 5:11:05 PM PST by borntobeagle
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To: Gabz

I find it pitiful that the answers generally fell into two categories:

1. Homeschool

or

2. Stop whining and put up with it.

Neither one is very democratic, and begs a question:

This is only of a few who has chosen to speak up, and state that homework is unreasonable for man (most?) public school students. Homework is not the panacea, and it is not the solution to sagging scores, UNLESS the student is not achieving much in school. THOSE students (the under-achievers) probably are not going to learn more at home, because their parents probably cannot (or will not) help them much at home. So, a person speaks up and is given two NON choices.

Why isn't a choice or a suggestion proposed such as below?

Across our nation, district(s) or teacher(s) need to consider altering the amount or type of homework.

It is an absolutely serious matter, because the masses are suffering under the public education 'rule'. Without reasonable answers for the many (many will never homeschool for a multitude of reasons), the masses will suffer. If the masses suffer, so will the nation. We, as a nation, will pay for the poor education which is built upon burdensome unreasonable homework.


51 posted on 11/13/2004 5:11:35 PM PST by thinkingman129 (questioning clears the way to understanding.)
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To: annyokie
Additionally, we get to debunk the junk they hear at times.

Ain't that the truth!!!!!

Like your kids, mine is in an outstanding school as well..........the district we moved to was the major reason we chose to move to this part of Virginia from Delaware.

Everyone is not the same, except in that they make their decisions based upon what they believe is in the best interest of their own children. (alright, not everyone does that, but you know what I mean)

No village is needed - just parents who are paying attention.

52 posted on 11/13/2004 5:18:32 PM PST by Gabz (Thank a Veteran today............and every day)
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To: squirt-gun
Did you apply the lapse in intelligence to the child of the original poster or the teacher?

I may have misunderstood, but it sounded like you said this about the child.

I'm am from a state similar to yours, we are at the bottom of the list in Public Education, Democrat controlled until 2 years ago.

Discipline is not going to happen in PS until people realize it isn't a dumping ground for children while the parents are out working.

Not all schools are bad. But they are all overly regulated and sensitized.
53 posted on 11/13/2004 5:18:48 PM PST by borntobeagle
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To: Destro

Very affluent? Get real. Homeschooling is much cheaper than public school education. And I am a single parent, doing it all by myself.


54 posted on 11/13/2004 5:20:49 PM PST by ican'tbelieveit
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To: inquest

How do you do that [vouchers] without putting government in control of homeschooling?

When the vouchers law is passed, make it unconditional, and make it so that aspect of it could never be changed.


55 posted on 11/13/2004 5:23:16 PM PST by Eccl 10:2 (Pray, pray, pray that we as a people are deserving of godly leaders.)
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To: Destro

Many homeschoolers are not affluent!


56 posted on 11/13/2004 5:23:50 PM PST by dawn53
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To: borntobeagle

My husband is forever looking for his tape measure, because our daughter loves to measure things!!! She helped measure the windows with me for curtains. I haven't gone so far yet as to allow her near the fabric with scissors!!!

I'll make a deal with you - I'll send you some fool proof recipes if you can tell me how much paint I need for a project!!! I always either under or overestimate - and usually by a long shot. It's time for me to get the painting gear out again around here.


57 posted on 11/13/2004 5:24:38 PM PST by Gabz (Thank a Veteran today............and every day)
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To: Destro
Not really, we live on less than $50000 a year, have five kids, and homeschool. We take yearly fun trips, go all over the country, and have no debt except house payments. It can be done if you are willing to budget. We probably don't eat out as much as the average family, and we shop great sales to keep the kids properly clothed and decent looking. The kids have no idea that we are a below average income family.
It can be done, probably much easier than you think. It is also a blast and so much easier on the kids. All the kids but the oldest (6th grade) are done by lunch. All excel in testing. Plus they learn more and can participate in the extra curricular activities where they can really get social skills.
This is our 6th year. Our whole family loves it.
58 posted on 11/13/2004 5:27:19 PM PST by floydian7
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To: Destro
Homeschooling applies to a very small and very affluent segment of the population

It also applies to the segment of the population that will downgrade their lifestyle to make this a possibility. My daughter is homeschooling and she is far from affluent, living on a minister's pay.

59 posted on 11/13/2004 5:27:59 PM PST by MontanaBeth (NEVER FORGET)
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To: thinkingman129
"Across our nation, district(s) or teacher(s) need to consider altering the amount or type of homework."

With all due respect, how about teaching the children when IN school instead of sending it home? When my girls were in school, they had learned everything about Kwanzaa, learned songs about Hanukkah, celebrated Earth day, collected aluminum can tabs for recycling, and learned a little Spanish.

But Math, English, and Reading were sent home as homework.

When you tire of fighting the PTA and the NEA, you take it into your own hands. Democratic doesn't work here, I do not have enough years of educating my children to fight the system. Therefore, I and many others will continue to pull out until the public education system wakes itself up.
60 posted on 11/13/2004 5:29:55 PM PST by borntobeagle
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