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'We have let things slip, and let extremists live under our noses'
The Telegraph ^ | nov 14 04 | Elizabeth Day

Posted on 11/14/2004 2:52:30 AM PST by Cutterjohnmhb

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To: Cutterjohnmhb
We have been too tolerant," says Joyce de Witt, 39, an office worker from Diemen, a town south of Amsterdam. "We need tougher immigration policies. For 20 or 30 years, we have let things slip and let extremists live under our noses.

Nonsense. Tolerance will solve all your problems. Just ask any liberal. So use more of your famously legal drugs, buy some of your famously available hardcore porn, kill some old people, and enter into a homosexual "marriage". Things will turn out just fine. Really.

61 posted on 11/14/2004 6:46:04 AM PST by Semi Civil Servant (This space for sale.)
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To: Semi Civil Servant

dont see the connection between leagle pot and sex and the Moslem problem


62 posted on 11/14/2004 6:50:18 AM PST by hineybona
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To: hineybona

"Few muslims are pro US that live here..." Why do they come here (probably to try to eventually take over)


63 posted on 11/14/2004 6:53:19 AM PST by DooDahhhh
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To: Cutterjohnmhb
"Islam is a peaceful religion."

Saying it doesn't make it so!

64 posted on 11/14/2004 6:57:12 AM PST by airborne (God bless and keep our fallen heroes.)
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To: Cutterjohnmhb

When the tolerant are tolerant of the intolerant the tolerant shouldn't be suprised when the intolerant stop tolerating them.


65 posted on 11/14/2004 6:58:31 AM PST by RtWngr
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To: Cutterjohnmhb

I hope we see the irony that we will be the Muslim and Mexican states of Azatlan in 10 years with our current politicians.


66 posted on 11/14/2004 7:01:31 AM PST by Indie (Ignorance of the truth is no excuse for stupidity.)
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To: gakrak

Islam is a pieceful religion...

It depends on what piece of the body they cut off.


67 posted on 11/14/2004 7:03:24 AM PST by gortklattu (check out thotline dot com)
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To: DooDahhhh

Listen to Osama ..He has many times mentioned "populating" areas ..especially Europe..Its the paln man , plain and simple.


68 posted on 11/14/2004 7:06:15 AM PST by hineybona
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To: RtWngr

Sounds like a John Kerry statement >


69 posted on 11/14/2004 7:07:14 AM PST by hineybona
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To: DooDahhhh

They were also brain washed. By education I mean a Western style education with something else offered than the Koran. Bin Laden is well educated he is also a religious nut. We have our own home grown varieties of that here. One can have an education and still be involved in a cult. One does not exclude the other. The ones who are used the most by the educated fundamentalists are those educated in madrassas (sp?) with no exposure to anything out their narrow world. I also think they intentionally keep these people poor because they can feed on there resentment. Witness the adoration of Arafat by the poor people there. They are willing to over look the fact he ripped them off. It's all his wife's fault in their minds. That fits perfectly with the Muslim fundamentalist belief that all women are evil. They can't see out side their narrow view because they do not even know another view exists. Anything not taught by their leaders is automatically evil.


70 posted on 11/14/2004 7:08:10 AM PST by foolscap
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To: Tripleplay

Having spent a lot of time in Holland, it was apparent that the Dutch became lazy and let the immigrants do the heavy lifting. Now, they are paying the price.


71 posted on 11/14/2004 7:12:57 AM PST by hgro
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To: Terpfen

The celebs are too spread out--would have to be Malibu.


72 posted on 11/14/2004 7:31:28 AM PST by Mamzelle (Nov 3--Psalm One...Blessed is the man...!)
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To: hineybona
Societies with weak or deteriorating moral boundaries are vulnerable to the barbarians at the gate.
73 posted on 11/14/2004 7:58:24 AM PST by Semi Civil Servant (This space for sale.)
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To: trentonrevolution
Historically, the states of the southwest have had a large percentage of the population being of Hispanic descent.

There's a huge difference between having a large percentage of English-speaking American citizens of Hispanic descent and having a large percentage of illegal immigrants, many of whom speak only Spanish.

74 posted on 11/14/2004 8:09:54 AM PST by Bob
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To: Bob

Thanks for that bit of common sense!


75 posted on 11/14/2004 8:37:13 AM PST by truthkeeper (Yeah, I have a 1998 signup date. So?)
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To: Cutterjohnmhb
My Dutch friend now 61 years old said that "growing up in Holland you knew that many of your peers would be forced to live abroad when they were grown because it was a small country". I don't think at the time that immigration was figured in. If their immigration policy's had been tighter all these years there might have been room for the Dutch in their own homeland after all.
76 posted on 11/14/2004 8:45:26 AM PST by Ditter
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To: Cutterjohnmhb

If there was a silver lining to nations like Poland being behind the Iron Curtain, it's that as a result, they were spared from the same fate of having mass influxes of Muslim immigrants. I can only hope that now they are part of the EU, they won't be forced to change their immigration policies. Somehow I don't think the Poles will be as "tolerant" as the Dutch towards the Muslims.


77 posted on 11/14/2004 8:51:24 AM PST by dfwgator (It's sad that the news media treats Michael Jackson better than our military.)
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To: Tripleplay

"Sound familiar?"

Yes, to many of us.


78 posted on 11/14/2004 10:01:47 AM PST by AuntB (Most provisional ballots are from voters not eligible to vote!!! Ask a poll worker!)
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To: hgro

"Having spent a lot of time in Holland, it was apparent that the Dutch became lazy and let the immigrants do the heavy lifting. Now, they are paying the price."

Do you see the same problem happening here with the cry of "Americans won't do the hard labor jobs,we need more illegals"?


79 posted on 11/14/2004 10:12:23 AM PST by AuntB (Most provisional ballots are from voters not eligible to vote!!! Ask a poll worker!)
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To: Chaguito

Darfur isn't against infedils, it's against black muslims, if it were against infedils (like southern Sudan) it would go on for 20 years and no one would say a word, (like the 2 million Christians and Animists killed in southern Sudan). Want to give them an assignment, there's the spot, or Nigeria or Eritria.


80 posted on 11/15/2004 5:29:46 AM PST by jb6 (Truth = Christ)
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