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Radical Islam Appears to Be Spreading
ap ^ | 11-14-04 | BRIAN MURPHY

Posted on 11/14/2004 12:26:17 PM PST by No Blue States

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To: weegee
But we do not have control over their education, meanwhile the madrassas continue to churn out more radicals.

Maybe elections and freedom in Iraq could have a positive impact on the overall problem.

Maybe people with freedom, jobs and money would rather enjoy living life as opposed to killing and to die for allah. I have much to learn on the subject, just speculating.

41 posted on 11/14/2004 1:44:29 PM PST by No Blue States
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To: weegee
Good that someone is helping them to make that transition.

That is certainly a positive step...but it sounds a lot like pulling up weeds one at a time from a thousand acre farm.

Like Churchill said:

A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants.

Well, it looks like the truth is about to put its pants on...one way or another.

42 posted on 11/14/2004 1:54:04 PM PST by weenie (Islam is as "dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog." -- Churchill)
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To: No Blue States
We have no say in their education, true, but we can put pressure on them to be tolerant of other faiths and permit freedom of religion in their nations.

There is no global interest in this (the left does not mind the oppression of people in Islamic nations but is fearful of Christians in elected office in America) but the only way to be able to crack down on violent muslims is to out them. The only way to convert muslims away from Islam is to permit the open practice of other faiths.

Nobody said this was going to be easy or quick but it is NECESSARY for safety around the globe. The 21st Century Crusades do not have to be fought violently but there should be no reluctance to push back. The end goal is the same; the erradication of this death cult that made a serious stab into Europe hundreds of years ago.

Imam today still believe that slavery is legal (and cannot BE outlawed as it is permitted by the Koran). Slaves must be seized in jihad though and doled out in an Islamic terroritory (thus the distinction that Islam IS a political system and not strictly a religion).

Spain was a Western Islamic capital although it is no longer. I WILL NOT see them stake out more empires in the West.

43 posted on 11/14/2004 1:54:34 PM PST by weegee (WE FOUGHT ZOGBYISM November 2, 2004 - 60 Million Voters versus 60 Minutes - BUSH WINS!!!)
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To: No Blue States

It's called infiltration. It happened while the rest of us weren't even aware that it was happening (which means they had a plan). Muslims are now in every country in the world. How do you fight the enemy when he is everywhere and in all countries? The thing to do would be to stop it NOW. Deport all Muslims from all countries. That's the only sane thing to do. But, of course, we won't. No country will. And so, the future looks pretty bleak.


44 posted on 11/14/2004 2:00:02 PM PST by my_pointy_head_is_sharp
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To: No Blue States
Saudi Cleric on American Democracy, Globalization, and Haircuts

10/25/2004

The following are excerpts from an interview with Saudi cleric Saleh Al-Munajid

Interviewer: The Muslims are unhappy with democracy because of its form in Western societies. Liberty and human rights make some Muslims angry. Why does this term make them angry?

Saleh Al-Munajid: If you compare Un-Islamic regimes, some of them would be bad and the others would be worse. It is a known fact. For instance, if you compare between a tyrannical, evil, oppressing regime and Western democracy – which is better? Western democracy is better. But is it our dream come true? No!

Take the issue of elections, for instance. What do you think of a voting system like the American one that gives a physician, an intellectual, an astronaut, an intelligent person and the head of the family, a vote that has the same weight as the vote of an ignorant, a fool, an idiot, an imbecile, a hippy, a bum, an unemployed man, who has no diploma, culture, or brains. What is this?!

Interviewer: What should we do then? This globalization influences (Muslim) identity and imposes the English language, for example. Should we resist this globalization? Must we reject this globalization altogether?

Saleh Al-Munajid: Globalization stems from our religion. Allah sent Muhammad out of mercy. He sent him for all mankind. Therefore, it is our duty to globalize the world around Islam and call the world to join Islam: "you may warn the Mother of Cities and those around her." This means the entire world. This religion was sent to the entire world. Globalization, in principle…

Interviewer: We are the source of globalization.

Saleh Al-Munajid: We are the source of it. The problem is that globalization now comes from the others to us. Therefore, we are being globalized, and not globalizing others. We want to turn the tables.

My brother, there is the crab haircut, the lion haircut, the mouse haircut… They didn't leave out a single haircut. Nowadays, we hear amazing things. It's no longer just the barbershop chair. They are leisure salons and coiffure – coiffure which is explicitly for men. They dye hair and put on makeup, as the viewer had mentioned, and there is the third sex, and the fourth... Westernization is very clear. Today when a young man leaves a barbershop you can't tell which planet or country he came from, because of the haircuts and makeup. Some leave the barbershop with hair that looks like a thorn-bush, others look like a jinn. Allah said about the Zaqoum tree (in hell) that it looks like the heads of demons, and this young man's head also looks like the head of demons. This is Westernization and the loss of identity.

45 posted on 11/14/2004 2:00:13 PM PST by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: No Blue States

Let them try that in an American red state. Unlike the blue states, we're armed.


46 posted on 11/14/2004 2:01:38 PM PST by Uncle Vlad
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To: TexKat
Excellent post...I have been seeing snippets from that interview for weeks yet, til now, had not seen it in whole.

...thx

47 posted on 11/14/2004 2:05:28 PM PST by weenie (Islam is as "dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog." -- Churchill)
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To: No Blue States
Time for "moderate" Moos (if such critters really exist) to go shopping for a new death-cult, because this one's going away.

Either Allah dies or civilization dies; that's becoming clearer each year. These 7th-century morons are unable to get a clue about anything beyond their own brainwashing. Either they stop their crap, or it's Crusades 2.0; I don't think they're going to stop.

48 posted on 11/14/2004 2:06:32 PM PST by Hank Rearden (Never allow anyone who could only get a government job attempt to tell you how to run your life.)
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To: No Blue States

I highly urge you to read "The Prophet of Doom," available to read free on the net or to purchase at Amazon.com. It is very telling and examines/evaluates Islam and where 'the prophet' stole and manipulated writings from the Talmud and the Bible. Islam only wants one thing: elimination of the Jews (Israel). The U.S. and her allies are the only nations in the way. Old Europe, except for Britain, and who knows how long Tony Blair can stand against the tide, is dead. The European Union will emerge (the 10 original lead members + others) stronger as they have embraced secularlism and socialism. The signs are here, the signs are here. Thank God Bush is in office, and we will FIGHT!


49 posted on 11/14/2004 2:09:58 PM PST by nuclady
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To: No Blue States
the Nov. 2 slaying of Van Gogh, whose work included harsh commentary against traditional Islam

Yeah, shining a light on the sub-human treatment of women by the extremist element of Islam is harsh commentary according to the AP. Yeah, whatever....

50 posted on 11/14/2004 2:10:25 PM PST by Libertarian444
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To: No Blue States

So for all the idiots who said 9/11 happened because we "deserved it" should obviously think again. This is heppening all around the world and people better wake up.


51 posted on 11/14/2004 2:15:59 PM PST by trashcanbred (Anti-social and anti-socialist)
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To: Gucho

There are some surveys that show that 10% of muslims identify themselves as islamists. So that would up the number tenfold.

There are 4 kinds of muslims:

`1. Murderers/terrorists - These are the soldiers of islam, the ones who go out and do the bidding of the clerics, who teach hatred in the schools.

2. Enablers - These are the muslims who finance terrorists, who finance madrassas, who provide fake documents, who provide shelter and transport.

3. Apologists - These are the muslims who say that the terrorist acts were justified because everyone treats muslims so badly.

4. Deny-ers - These are the muslims that deny that muslims commit terrorist acts and claim that islam is a religion of peace.

99.999% of muslims fit into these categories. The few who do not fall in these categories are too insignificant to make a difference. This is all part of an orchestrated effort to present islam as a religion when in fact it is a terrorist cult intent on destroying all that is not muslim.


52 posted on 11/14/2004 2:22:03 PM PST by ArmedNReady (Islam, the cancer on humanity.)
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To: No Blue States
China used to be my main concern, now it is the spread of this disease called Radical Islam.

China's in the catbird seat.

We're praising the "religion of peace", and China's singin' "I wanna be aroun' to pick up the pieces".

53 posted on 11/14/2004 2:24:13 PM PST by iconoclast (Conservative, not partisan)
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To: No Blue States

Islam needs reform and more non-Arabic influence. It is too Arab oriented. To read the Koran, you have to know Arabic and not everyone speaks it. Many Muslims probably have never read the Koran. Sadly, Adolf Hitler and Joseph Stalin are probably very happy about this.


54 posted on 11/14/2004 2:27:42 PM PST by Ptarmigan (Proud rabbit hater and killer)
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To: weenie
Excellent post...I have been seeing snippets from that interview for weeks yet, til now, had not seen it in whole.

Says it all does it not.

55 posted on 11/14/2004 2:31:15 PM PST by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: iconoclast
China's in the catbird seat.

But China is about to get right in the middle of things if they cut a deal with Iran for oil.

I wouldn't let go of worrying over China just yet.

Once China is in Iran, any action by Israel or the US to stop the development of nuclear weapons could be seen as an attach on the interests of China.

56 posted on 11/14/2004 2:31:49 PM PST by weenie (Islam is as "dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog." -- Churchill)
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To: No Blue States

Nukes...a sure cure against radical Islamist extremism...


57 posted on 11/14/2004 2:32:51 PM PST by Lurking2Long
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To: TexKat

Yup.


58 posted on 11/14/2004 2:32:51 PM PST by weenie (Islam is as "dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog." -- Churchill)
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To: weenie

Make that a "k" in attach


59 posted on 11/14/2004 2:34:11 PM PST by weenie (Islam is as "dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog." -- Churchill)
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To: TexKat
Thanks, Ive heard of Memri and bookmarked them. The movie clip was chilling. thanks for the link. As for what I think, we must kill them before they kill us. They leave us no alternative.

Sorry for the delay, I drove home from work.

60 posted on 11/14/2004 2:41:15 PM PST by No Blue States
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