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5,000 Year-Old Artifacts (Found) Near Texas Coast
Washington Post ^ | 11-13-2004 | lynn Brezosky

Posted on 11/14/2004 2:33:59 PM PST by blam

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To: blam

Yes! The Solutreians and the same spear points as Clovis.


21 posted on 11/14/2004 3:49:04 PM PST by Siobhan (Where is there justice in the gate...)
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To: blam

Ojibwa carry DNA that is only found in a minority population in Europe as I recall -- you no doubt have that information at your fingertips, blam.


22 posted on 11/14/2004 3:50:33 PM PST by Siobhan (Where is there justice in the gate...)
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Cabeza de Vaca was shipwrecked on the Texas coast (probably Galveston Island) in 1528 and survived to write an account of his experiences. The Indians of that era seem to have led a wretched existence and were often hungry. A couple of tribes had the custom of killing their newborn daughters, and acquiring wives by buying women from other tribes.


23 posted on 11/14/2004 3:58:24 PM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: blam

BTTT


24 posted on 11/14/2004 3:59:38 PM PST by Fiddlstix (This Tagline for sale. (Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: Siobhan
"Ojibwa carry DNA that is only found in a minority population in Europe as I recall"

Probably related to the Red-Paint-People who have recently been connected to the Scandanavian countries.

25 posted on 11/14/2004 4:08:38 PM PST by blam
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To: blam

South Padre Island...Great camping on the beach! Did that last spring.


26 posted on 11/14/2004 4:28:01 PM PST by Sertorius (A hayseed with no greek and dam^ proud of it)
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To: blam

Whatever her age, Clinton would like to date her!


27 posted on 11/14/2004 4:42:25 PM PST by RAY (They that do right are all heroes!)
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"South Padre Island...Great camping on the beach! Did that last spring."

Lived in Texas for 20 years, went there once. I usually went east to Alabama or Florida for the beach scene, much better beaches.

28 posted on 11/14/2004 4:53:43 PM PST by blam
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"The people living in America prior to 6,000 years ago were different people than the people we (today) call American Indian/Native Americans."

Just curious but why wouldn't these Paleo-Americans be the Native-Americans (or Indians) grandparents ?


29 posted on 11/14/2004 5:51:30 PM PST by sawmill trash (We interrupt the regularly scheduled tagline to bring you this special tagline. 4 MORE YEARS !!!!)
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To: blam; FairOpinion; Ernest_at_the_Beach; SunkenCiv; 24Karet; 3AngelaD; 4ConservativeJustices; ...
Finally, the GGG ping. Sorry for today's volume, but I'm finally able to catch up. Good point Blam about the nomenclature.
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30 posted on 11/16/2004 11:15:15 AM PST by SunkenCiv ("All I have seen teaches me trust the Creator for all I have not seen." -- Emerson)
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To: blam

During my short stay in Corpus we spent a lot of time hunting small critters and fishing - found mastodons literally dripping out of river banks.
There's a lot of old stuff out there and 35 or so years ago there was darn little being done about it.

Probably same to be said about the immediate off-coast regions but they are so sandy that only sonar would work.


31 posted on 11/16/2004 3:12:44 PM PST by norton
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"Just curious but why wouldn't these Paleo-Americans be the Native-Americans (or Indians) grandparents ?"

They were a different race of people...there may have been some 'mixing' though.

First Americans

32 posted on 11/16/2004 3:43:18 PM PST by blam
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Are there any sketches or pictures of these artifacts? Some of the best points I have ever found came from up river from this spot, on the Mexican side.


33 posted on 11/16/2004 3:50:42 PM PST by Ditter
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"Are there any sketches or pictures of these artifacts?"

Sorry, haven't seen any. Keep your eye on the Houston Chronicle for updates on this story.

34 posted on 11/16/2004 3:54:43 PM PST by blam
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To: Verginius Rufus

Bull-headed fellow, wasn't he?


35 posted on 11/16/2004 4:04:24 PM PST by Old Professer ( War too often becomes personal; we inure ourselves to the abstract and audit too lightly)
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That's Cabeza de Vaca, not Cabeza de Toro...

There's a fairly new Penguin edition of Alvar Nun~ez Cabeza de Vaca, Chronicle of the Narvaez Expedition.

Ilan Stavans in the introduction comments that the surname, literally meaning Cow's Head, is one of the stranger surnames in literary and cultural history. Supposedly it dates back to an ancestor's exploit in 1212 at the battle of Las Navas de Tolosa...the ancestor used a cow's skull to mark a path which allowed the Christian forces to escape destruction.

Stavans calls the story "probably apocryphal" since it is not recorded until much later. So the cow's head story is probably b.s.

Cabeza de Vaca seems to have been a pretty decent guy, at least in comparison to most of the early explorers of the New World.

36 posted on 11/16/2004 5:28:01 PM PST by Verginius Rufus
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Some people are "Ainu" retemtive.


37 posted on 11/16/2004 9:09:32 PM PST by Henchman (BORK SPECTER. Email your friends and relatives. PLEASE do it now!)
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"Some people are "Ainu" retemtive."

Perhaps even you and me, huh?

38 posted on 11/16/2004 9:49:30 PM PST by blam
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To: blam

. . . it was an absentee vote for Al Gore.


39 posted on 11/16/2004 9:50:01 PM PST by smonk
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