Posted on 11/15/2004 8:34:50 AM PST by NormsRevenge
Oh my goodness, another one of those drooling, emotional ranters at the "DemonRats" gimmie a break. The GOP controls the Governor's mansion, the House, the Senate, and the Presidency. Why don't you spin me another tale about the Democrat Boogie man preventing all these wonderful GOP warriors from doing what they want. Time to put down the KoolAid glass and start thinking.
John is an antiChristian zealot and they're both social liberals, however; Who is proposing the latest round of indirect-Amnesty again? That would be R-Bush. Who is responsible for stopping the roundups in Temecula and preventing them from restarting? That would be R-Hutchinson. Who is responsible for NO illegal employing businesses from being prosecuted? That would have been R-Ashcroft (we'll see what this new token latino attorney general does, keep your fingers crossed Steven).
The biggest opposition to enforcing the borders is within the Republican party, because they have tremendous campaign contributions from businesses that employ them and save tremendously by not hiring Americans. Its CHEAP LABOR, when in doubt, follow the money.
The Republican Party's matra is to stick Americans with the bill by MAXIMIZING PROFITS, SOCIALIZING COSTS.
This sums it up. The Republicans who facilitate illegal immigration are essentially the same as Ante-Bellum Democrats, who were beholden to the peculiar institution of slavery. Like illegal immigration, slavery reduced labor costs. And labor costs are a powerful heap of interest.
You mean when did I stop beating my wife?
If this is the intellectual brainpower apologist for proillegal cheap-labor Republicans have, Americans have reason to celebrate in the coming decade. I just hope the Tijunaization of American cities isn't complete after being sold out for 3 decades.
But no, you preferred to attack Bill Jones and David Dreier for not supporting shooting immigrants on sight
I can't believe I'm even bothering to respond to such an emotional post, but to be clear didn't attack Bill Jones, I voted for him. Waste of time, but I did, he failed all on his lonesome, maybe if they run and even more liberal Republican next time they'll be able to win.
I was guessing husband, but whatever ....
Seriously though, to think that in a land blessed with a gay bar to every conservative and 1000 liberals for every gay bar that people actually spend time attacking one of the conservatives for not being pure enough .... what the f.....
Inferring a conservative freeper is a racist and spouse beater...
Look who is "eating their own".
There is no response you could have given, except a cute quip. Your post was 100 percent BS.
Hey no fair, injecting reason in a perfectly good emotional temper tantrum :-)
Trying to act like you were being funny calling me a racist and implying I want to shoot mexicans? Not buying it, you were totally innappropriate.
to think that in a land blessed with a gay bar to every conservative and 1000 liberals for every gay bar that people actually spend time attacking one of the conservatives for not being pure enough
If that were true, how in the world did propositions outlawing Gay marriage, property tax hikes, benefits to illegals the list goes on and on get passed in this state? Because the GOP doesn't reach out to this state's vast numbers of conservative independents. They assume, wrongly like you, that the state really is a land of fruits and nuts and trys to out Dem the Dems, which is precisely how as the rest of nation goes completely for the GOP, this state still sits with Dems like Boxer winning landslide victories despite popularity ratings below 50%.
Don't give me this conservative "enough" nonsense. On immigration there are a handful of Republicans who are "conservative" the rest are actively working against native Americans. One seat wouldn't have mattered in this past election, and it would have sent a powerful message to Washington desperately in need of a wakeup call.
bttt
I'll be interested to see if such a candidate emerges. Challenging a powerful incumbent from one's own party doesn't go over well. If you succeeded in knocking him off without the blessing of the party bigwigs, you'd be an outcast within the caucus, you'd have a hard time getting your bills passed, and you'd have to run for reelection with your own resources.
"God forbid anyone mobilize to defeat the Sanchez sisters, or Boxer, or ..."
OR, as the story below illustrates what millions of people are going through on a daily basis and trying to get across to you.
http://www.democratherald.com/articles/2003/04/09/news/oregon/state03.prt
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Esparza pleads guilty to killing nun
KLAMATH FALLS (AP) - Maximiliano Silerio Esparza pleaded guilty Tuesday to charges that he raped two nuns and killed one of them as they walked and prayed on a bike path last September.
Esparza, 33, was sentenced to life in prison without parole for the murder of Sister Helen Lynn Chaska, 53. He got another 10 years for the attempted murder of the surviving nun, and 15 years for raping the women.
In return for his guilty plea, Esparza avoided a possible death sentence.
In a statement, Edwin Caleb, the Klamath County district attorney, said he offered the plea for several reasons, including the surviving nun's religious convictions. Caleb said he didn't want to force the nun to testify.
"The most obvious reason is the certainty that this monster will be in jail for the rest of his life and never get the opportunity to offend again," he said.
Police say Esparza rode a train from Portland to Klamath Falls about a week before the attack. He visited a strip bar and then attacked the nuns early on a Sunday morning as they prayed on the downtown bike path.
Esparza head-butted one of the nuns, then raped them both while controlling them with the rosary beads around their necks, police said.
Chaska - who went by the name Sister Helena Maria - was strangled by her own beads, according to an autopsy. She was a nun with the Bellevue, Wash., Immaculate Heart of Mary, a small order unaffiliated with the Roman Catholic Church.
Several months before the attack, Esparza was detained and let go by U.S. Border Patrol agents in New Mexico even though he had spent three years in California prisons and had once been deported.
The agents did turn up an old drug charge in Oregon, but Multnomah County passed on extraditing him. The warrant was apparently the only evidence of Esparza's criminal past that surfaced during the checks.
Once Oregon declined to extradite, Esparza was treated like any other undocumented Mexican and was dropped off at the border.
Waaaaah, waaaaah, throw a political temper tantrum, elect a Democrat, and hope Republicans pay attention to your sorry ass. Give me a break!!
How about stop being such a baby and work to beat a DEMOCRAT.
I have heard SO MUCH CRAP from California conservatives, just pure stupidity like the California Republican Assembly endorsing Tony Strickland for US Senate -- oops, guess he didn't even end up running, and endorsed Bill Jones -- and now stupid stunts like this, looking at Dreier and Sanchez and deciding DREIER is the one don't like.
You people are long on chromosomes and short on IQ, I tell ya, but at least your clowning keeps the Democrats rolling in the aisles .....
What part of "inappropriate" did you fail to comprehend?
How about stop being such a baby and work to beat a DEMOCRAT.
You are so brilliant. You're talents are being wasted posting on an old thread on FR, you need to be on cable news as a commentator with such revolutionary concepts.
and endorsed Bill Jones
Yeah, working hard to beat a Democrate, how did that work out? After all you're the one ranting about how gay CA is. Republicans go their 30% registered like me, but the conservatives that--here's something for when they call you to go on the news to commentate--DON'T LIKE AND DON'T TRUST REPUBLICANS aren't voting for weak kneed guys that have an R in front of their name.
I have heard SO MUCH CRAP from California conservatives
I have enjoyed in every one of your posts, from the "eating your own" contradiction, to trying to shine me on to attack Dems....by personally insulting me, to this where you accuse me of whining, and then turn around and throw a tantrum about the CRA and a bunch of other nonsequitars to get some things off your chest....as if I'm supposed to console your whining? Agree with you? After you've been such a completely unlikeable dickhead? Another contradiction:that I am the one low on IQ.
Dreier had the worst record on immigration of any Republican in either the House or Senate, he's been there way too long, and the GOP was going to pick up more seats in the House this election any how, it would have been a powerful message to send him home for the future of the GOP. Oh well, I guess if we keep beating on the minority party that is shrinking every election cycle. That strawman is serving us well. Brilliant.
Even radical ZPG groups like Americans for Better Immigration don't stoop to such hyperbole. http://grades.betterimmigration.com/testgrades.php3?District=CA&VIPID=96
You are so brilliant.
You're taking orders from a couple of guys named John and Ken, so don't even pretend you have any intellect to speak of.
Even radical ZPG groups like Americans for Better Immigration don't stoop to such hyperbole.
Now what part of "had" don't you understand? Yes, his grades on there have gone up, certainly unrelated to any pressure applied to him the polical human sacrafice because he was above reproach. Now back in the summer, he had an '8' on that same site, the lowest in either branch of Congress.
You're taking orders from a couple of guys named John and Ken
I take orders from no one, most especially jerks who's primary method of persuasion is insulting and continually contradicting themselves.
I'd love it if they were syndicated -- much more sane than Michael Savage (IMO) and they really get into what they believe -- I'm not in California any longer, but I've always liked these guys and do catch them on the internet (KFI640).. First they went after ASA Hunchinson and he sent his boss to complain to Clear Channel about their email/FAX/phone call campaign so then they started the firing campaign -- one Dem and one Republican. Every Candidate but two (one each party) came on the station to take calls and the two that refused were offered up for sacrafice.
They aren't a morning show. They are an afternoon show and have a large following.
Looks to me like the Dems keep getting elected because Californian's keep VOTING for them... if people had gotten behind the guy going after Boxer he might have pulled a Thune in California... he really didn't lose by that much considering no one ever heard about him.
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