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Safire to Step Down as Times Columnist
THE NEW YORK TIMES ^ | November 15, 2004 | By THE NEW YORK TIMES

Posted on 11/15/2004 1:05:31 PM PST by neverdem

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To: neverdem
William Safire's career proved above all else that all you need in order to have "civil" discourse with liberals is to be, yourself, a liberal. While he may have been conservative by NYT standards, he was, after all, a "Nixon-Republican." In other words, he was a liberal by word and deed.
21 posted on 11/15/2004 1:28:52 PM PST by stevem
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To: neverdem

Ann Coulter would be a good replacement....


22 posted on 11/15/2004 1:29:03 PM PST by Victor
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To: JennysCool
A victory for the nattering nabobs of negativism. Without him, the whole crew at the New York Times (except for David Brooks) will be an impudent corps of effete snobs.
23 posted on 11/15/2004 1:32:06 PM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: neverdem

Safire considered himself the moderate among the
Nixon speech writers. Buchanan was the conservative,
and I don't remember who the leftie was. But the
moderate in a moderate administration? Safire stood
out only because he worked on the times.


24 posted on 11/15/2004 1:35:08 PM PST by RWCon
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To: neverdem

I wish they got rid of Nicholas Kristof, Fox Butterfield(He might be gone), Paul Krugman, and Dowdy instead.


25 posted on 11/15/2004 1:36:28 PM PST by Dan from Michigan ("No time for losers, cause we are the champions...of the world!!!")
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To: neverdem

I don't blame him. With a flagship like the NY Times, it's a bit downgrading to be with the likes of Rather at CBS.

He has a refutation to protect.


26 posted on 11/15/2004 1:38:19 PM PST by El Oviedo
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To: RWCon

Since the liberal press is saying that Colin Powell is leaving because he is too liberal for this ultra conservative administration, can we say Safire is leaving the NYT because he is too conservative for this ultra liberal newspaper?


27 posted on 11/15/2004 1:38:25 PM PST by bigeasy_70118
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To: neverdem

Well this will open up a spot from James Carville, much better fit for the NY Times then Safire.


28 posted on 11/15/2004 1:42:37 PM PST by jpsb (MAN)
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To: neverdem
Whether you agreed with him or not was never the point," Mr. Sulzberger said. "His writing is delightful, informed and engaging."

I don't think Pinchy bothers to read his own newspaper.

29 posted on 11/15/2004 1:46:32 PM PST by Rummyfan
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To: jpsb

Trouble is Carville cannot read or wright LoL LoL


30 posted on 11/15/2004 1:48:14 PM PST by theriotcat
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To: Dan from Michigan

Fox Butterfield appears to be at the national desk still writing mostly about crime and gun control. I just ran his name through the Times search.


31 posted on 11/15/2004 1:50:57 PM PST by neverdem (Xin loi min oi)
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To: theriotcat

If the Times wasn't just a bunch of leftist, elitest snobs, I would almost feel sorry for them. But remembering what a great news paper the Times used to be in the 50's and even 60's, 70's. All I hope for is to see all the editors and most of the reporters fired by the publisher. The Times needs to do a complete rebuild. These days the Washington Post is more believable then the Times. The Times is little better then a tabloid now. All pretense of objective reporting is gone. . I never thought I'd live to see that!


32 posted on 11/15/2004 1:58:58 PM PST by jpsb (MAN)
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To: neverdem
Fox Butterfield appears to be at the national desk still writing mostly about crime and gun control. I just ran his name through the Times search.

He's VPC's boy.

33 posted on 11/15/2004 2:00:50 PM PST by Dan from Michigan ("No time for losers, cause we are the champions...of the world!!!")
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To: neverdem

Replace him with Ann Coulter


34 posted on 11/15/2004 2:30:23 PM PST by Dan Walsh
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To: neverdem

Safire was strongly pro-abortion. He wrote an occasional good column, like the one in which he called hillary a congenital liar. But they were few and far between. Maybe about one a year in the last decade or so.

David Brooks is reliably pro-abortion and pro-homosexual too. He's the New York Times's idea of a conservative. Compare either of these guys to the token conservatives at the Boston Globe or the Washington Post, and they look pretty poor.


35 posted on 11/15/2004 2:45:57 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Victor
Ann Coulter would be a good replacement

She wouldn't want to tarnish her good name by appearing in the NYT regularly!

36 posted on 11/15/2004 2:53:52 PM PST by TChris (You keep using that word. I don't think it means what you think it means.)
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To: neverdem
For Pinch Sulzberger and the liberals who run the New York Times two conservatives is two too many. Funny how all the liberal columnists are never too many. In the legacy media, there's a "glass ceiling" on the number of conservatives who can get hired. No wonder they see the rest of America as a foreign country from the blinkered perspective of the newsrooms in Manhattan.
37 posted on 11/15/2004 7:09:27 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: Southack

They have David Brooks. You can have Maureen Dowd, Paul Krugman, Bob Herbert and Frank Rich and that's the Gray Lady's idea of "balance" on the op-ed pages. Hire more than ONE conservative and suddenly the paper is in danger of turning into a right-wing rag. No wonder the paper's liberals want to make sure readers are not exposed to dangerous ideas more often than necessary. And that's why incidentally, they are out of touch with the country.


38 posted on 11/15/2004 7:13:00 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: ProudVet77
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39 posted on 11/15/2004 8:03:40 PM PST by ConservativeMan55 (http://www.osurepublicans.com)
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To: goldstategop

Something I don't understand for all of you who seem to think no paper is worth anything unless they only allow columnists who are okayed by the White House, is what would a paper be if they only had columnists and editorials that supported the conservative agenda? (The Fox News Times?)

What would be the point?

There are plenty of rightwing papers like the Washington Times and a lot of New York daily papers are rightwing.

So why worry about the Times and if they have conservative columnists?

Besides the Times has already said they are going to get another conservative columnist, so why are your pants in a wad?

Coulter would only make the paper lose most of it's readers if not all. She's a nutcase.


40 posted on 11/29/2004 10:37:16 AM PST by Buzzramjet
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